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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Peacetrain

(22,879 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:34 AM Feb 2020

Biden has so little money and yet he will may very well take this nomination

Sanders has been running for five years.. building up his coalition.. using small money donations that do not have to be reported.. only donations over 200 dollars.. so that can be some pretty dark money...

Bloomberg can buy his way in.. pay outright for staff.. full staffing everywhere and buy up every commercial available.


Warren has had to float a loan.. she is not a wealthy person..


Realistically Sanders should be burying everyone else... and Bloomberg can bury everyone else


They aren't.. why is that.. because their message is not hitting home with the rest of us..



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Biden has so little money and yet he will may very well take this nomination (Original Post) Peacetrain Feb 2020 OP
Yep. He's the 3c man - character, competence, capacity underthematrix Feb 2020 #1
The three C man!! Peacetrain Feb 2020 #3
Biden Neglecting Super Tuesday States Days Before Crucial Contests bluewater Feb 2020 #2
So that makes the lower numbers Sanders has been getting even sadder.. Peacetrain Feb 2020 #4
What's been sad is that a two term VP for President Obama has been doing so poorly. bluewater Feb 2020 #7
The truth is underthematrix Feb 2020 #14
LOL. DanTex Feb 2020 #5
Why don't you bookmark this.. and then if we do not make it.. Peacetrain Feb 2020 #6
BIDEN is our best chance for restoring our democracy underthematrix Feb 2020 #15
If he has a big win in SC (double digits), the money will flow in afterwards AGeddy Feb 2020 #8
I hope Steyer does bow out.. and use his his knowledge base to promote issues Peacetrain Feb 2020 #9
Phuck Bloomberg... Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #10
Bloomberg will never actually drop out of the race AGeddy Feb 2020 #17
I think Joe's been riding on his VP career. His message is 3rd time Obama style administration aikoaiko Feb 2020 #11
71% of Sanders' contributions are unitemized. George II Feb 2020 #12
That is so scary... Peacetrain Feb 2020 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Feb 2020 #13
I know.. I know Peacetrain Feb 2020 #18
Why are deep pocket Democratic donors not giving to him? Autumn Feb 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Feb 2020 #20
You do know that Biden's net worth is 9 million while Bernie's net worth is 2.5 million. Autumn Feb 2020 #22
Bloomberg asked them not to. Qutzupalotl Feb 2020 #21
Joe isn't burying everybody else either. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Feb 2020 #24
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
1. Yep. He's the 3c man - character, competence, capacity
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:38 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,879 posts)
3. The three C man!!
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:40 AM
Feb 2020

Awesome.. and so true..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
2. Biden Neglecting Super Tuesday States Days Before Crucial Contests
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:38 AM
Feb 2020
Biden’s Campaign Has Been Neglecting Super Tuesday States Days Before Crucial Contests


Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden pauses while speaking after receiving an endorsement from House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-SC) on February 26, 2020 in North Charleston, South Carolina.




2020 Democratic candidate Joe Biden hasn’t been spending as much time in the Super Tuesday states as one would expect ahead of the critical batch of primaries next week — and it could cost him.

The New York Times reported on Wednesday that state Democratic Party leaders have been taken aback by Biden’s lack of ground game as Super Tuesday looms ever closer.

For example, the former vice president’s campaign has only one office in the delegate-rich state of California, compared to the 23 offices of primary frontrunner Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), who is expected to win big in the state and others next week.

In Texas, which holds the second largest trove of delegates after California, Biden’s campaign hasn’t been knocking on nearly as many doors as the other campaigns.

“I haven’t seen anything other than the events he’s had in Texas,” Gilberto Hinojosa, chair of the Lone Star state’s Democratic Party, said in an interview with the Times.

The Biden campaign’s outreach in other Southern states has been similarly light, according to local party leaders.

Read the NYT’s full report here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/us/politics/joe-biden-california-super-tuesday.html


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/biden-campaign-neglecting-super-tuesday-states-before-primaries

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,879 posts)
4. So that makes the lower numbers Sanders has been getting even sadder..
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:44 AM
Feb 2020

He has been at this for 5 years..and he should have this all tied up if his message was one that was hitting the majority of people..

You make my point.. Biden leads in so many polls and is doing it on his past job performance.. he does not have the money..


Nice to be you guys I guess.. you can blow all the money you want.. just like Bloomberg.


But if we get the nomination.. the party will pick us up.. so we work harder

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
7. What's been sad is that a two term VP for President Obama has been doing so poorly.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:50 AM
Feb 2020
"So that makes the lower numbers Sanders has been getting even sadder.."


But hey, look at the bright side, Joe should win his first primary/caucus ever in his three Presidential bids this Saturday in South Carolina.

He should savor that. Super Tuesday will follow in just 3 short days and he could use the bounce.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,879 posts)
6. Why don't you bookmark this.. and then if we do not make it..
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:47 AM
Feb 2020

You can laugh at me all you want..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
15. BIDEN is our best chance for restoring our democracy
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:11 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AGeddy

(509 posts)
8. If he has a big win in SC (double digits), the money will flow in afterwards
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:50 AM
Feb 2020

The donors that have been holding off (at Bloomberg's request) will move back to Biden as it will appear that Biden will be the best bet to be the "Bernie alternative".

Amy will exit after Super Tuesday (she will stay in to win Minnesota, then drop out)

Steyer will exit after getting <15% in SC and no delegates.

Pete might stay in through mid to late March, but with diminishing returns.

Warren has had a cash infusion recently and will stay in for a while. Which will help keep Sanders' numbers down, and probably cost him a sweep of California.



In the end, we'll get a Biden/Warren "marriage" of delegates in Milwaukee that will be over 50%. Some will complain for a month or two, but by November, that ticket will win big.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,879 posts)
9. I hope Steyer does bow out.. and use his his knowledge base to promote issues
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:53 AM
Feb 2020

that are important to him.. Steyers is a good man.. He will never be President.. and he needs to pick his battles.. and do the best work he can do

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Joinfortmill

(14,467 posts)
10. Phuck Bloomberg...
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:02 PM
Feb 2020

I think Biden received a surge of donations after the Clyburn endorsement.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AGeddy

(509 posts)
17. Bloomberg will never actually drop out of the race
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:12 PM
Feb 2020

No matter how poorly he does.

Here's why:

As long as he is a candidate in the race, there are no limits to how much money he can spend. He doesn't have to funnel money through a SuperPAC if he is actually running.

So he can continue to run unlimited ads attacking Trump all the way through the convention, as long as he is in the race.

I predict Bloomberg will not run any ads that attack Joe Biden. Bloomberg would be ok with a Biden nomination.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,184 posts)
11. I think Joe's been riding on his VP career. His message is 3rd time Obama style administration
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:02 PM
Feb 2020

And I think that resonated with a lot of people.

I know Joe doesn't like that characterization, but I don't see how anyone can deny it. Its working for him.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. 71% of Sanders' contributions are unitemized.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:04 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,879 posts)
16. That is so scary...
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:12 PM
Feb 2020

because you just do not know where it is coming from..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
19. Why are deep pocket Democratic donors not giving to him?
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:13 PM
Feb 2020

A front runner "who has so little money". It seems like that could signal a problem.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to Autumn (Reply #19)

 

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
22. You do know that Biden's net worth is 9 million while Bernie's net worth is 2.5 million.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:48 PM
Feb 2020

The correct answer is only one of those bonafide billionaires made calls to Dem donors and told them not to donate to the candidates. But yeah it's Bernie's fault.

“People don’t have any money. You’re shaking your head. You know the story,” CNN’s Gloria Borger pointed out, addressing Yang. “And who has the money to compete other than Bernie Sanders right now and Michael Bloomberg?”

“That’s the great question: Is, could Elizabeth [Warren] or Joe [Biden] or Amy [Klobuchar] or Pete [Buttigieg] have a break-out night that leads to tens of millions of dollars of donations,” Yang noted. He then dropped a bombshell, explaining that major Democratic donors are, “frankly, getting phone calls from Mike Bloomberg right now saying ‘Sit this one out, I got this.'”

“If you’re a donor, not donating is a pretty appealing pitch,” Yang added, laughing.

“Sorry, but could you say that again?” CNN reporter Dana Bash pressed. “Mike Bloomberg is calling donors saying ‘Don’t give to my opponents?'”

“Mike Bloomberg is calling donors, saying: ‘Hey, just sit this out, I got this, I’ll bankroll the whole thing. Just don’t donate to anybody.”

“You heard this or know this?” Chris Cuomo said, jumping in.

“I heard it from a major donor,” Yang replied.

“Your donor?” Bash asked.

“Yes,” Yang confirmed. “A donor said that. And it’s a person who donates to a number of candidates, ordinarily, says these are the phone calls that Mike’s been making.”


https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/newly-minted-cnn-contributor-andrew-yang-claims-bloomberg-is-actively-asking-major-dem-donors-to-sit-out-primary/

I would love to know what Bloomberg is talking about when says's he's got this.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
23. Joe isn't burying everybody else either.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:51 PM
Feb 2020

He is a former vice president with almost total name recognition but that hasn't got him very far so far.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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