Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forum'We Are Not That Stupid': Rev. Al Sharpton Says Black Voters Won't Be Fooled by Red-Baiting
Attacks on Sanders
"The civil rights movement always was targeted by those that would use the Red Scare. They accused Dr. King of being a communist. We've been down that road before."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/26/we-are-not-stupid-rev-al-sharpton-says-black-voters-wont-be-fooled-red-baiting?fbclid=IwAR3Y-wYjv4Mqq9yorqajub8pFXQOsunUjoPejjpFhyQOo4qsr-ZPIOWwiZI
"Every major leader in the 60s they tried to call socialist or communist. Whatever you decide to do on Saturday, do not go by those that use the 'socialist' tag to try to separate us from what we need to do for this country."
Rev. Al Sharpton
"The civil rights movement always was targeted by those that would use the Red Scare," Sharpton said at the South Carolina Ministers' Breakfast in North Charleston as he introduced the Vermont senator.
Sanders and five other Democratic presidential hopefuls attended the event, which was hosted by the National Action Network.
"They accused Dr. King of being a communist," Sharpton said. "Every major leader in the 60s they tried to call socialist or communist. Whatever you decide to do on Saturday, do not go by those that use the 'socialist' tag to try to separate us from what we need to do for this country... And we are not that stupid to allow you to tell us who is what."
"Those of us that had to fight for the right to vote need to use that vote in a fair way, fair to those that fought for it," added Sharpton, pointing to Sanders' involvement in the civil rights movement in the 1960s. "One of them that came south to fight for that and was arrested was the senator from the state of Vermont, Senator Bernie Sanders."
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,426 posts)Thanks for the thread Autumn.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WhereAmerica
(23 posts)Bernie is a socialist, a red. Few people will know the difference between a socialist and a communist.
He will be a disaster for the country, and we will lose everyting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)There were roadside billboards scattered throughout the South purporting to show King at a communist training camp. Hoover cultivated King as the fearsome dark symbol of the latest 20th century threat to tranquility on Main Street Americasucceeding immigrants, Depression gangsters, Nazis and communists.
Rev. Al Sharpton
Please proceed with that nonsense that Bernie is a commie.
2. Except Bernie actually is a red
Bernie is a socialist, a red. Few people will know the difference between a socialist and a communist.
He will be a disaster for the country, and we will lose everyting.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
David__77
(23,520 posts)Red-bait
/ˈredbāt/
verbINFORMALNORTH AMERICAN
gerund or present participle: red-baiting
harass or persecute (someone) on account of known or suspected communist sympathies.
"the red-baiting chairman of the Senate committee"
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lunasun
(21,646 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Progressive dog
(6,920 posts)and he doesn't deny it now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Progressive dog
(6,920 posts)socialism treats people as a herd or hive rather than the individuals they are.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,847 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Progressive dog
(6,920 posts)socialize almost a fifth of our economy just for starters. That will force doctors, nurses, hospital employees, dentists and even drug manufacturers to work for the government under a socialist scheme. It treats those workers as if they were a hive, existing only for the owners.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)All all government healthcare programs and no doctors, nurses, hospital employees, dentists work and exist for only the owners, whoever those mythical owners are.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Progressive dog
(6,920 posts)Rates for medicare, medicaid, ACA, VA, are negotiated rates and medicare rates were cut under ACA because the government was going to provide health insurance to many more people. The medicare rate is 17.4% below the average price according to that famous Yale "study." The proposed price for drugs is 40% below the current price according to the same supposed study. When they get all done with the cuts and then reduce the amount of health care needed, they only need to raise taxes by an insignificant 1.5 trillion or so per year to pay for the 180 million who already have non government paid health care.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,520 posts)...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
theaocp
(4,245 posts)Thank you for the thread and thank you Rev. Sharpton. I don't always agree with him, but he's right.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)I read he went to S Chicago and was arrested there, but I am reading Sharpton say he went to the south, and I am not recalling Sanders ever being in the south fighting for the civil rights movement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Even if I knew how to contact Sharpton, I doubt he would pay any attention to my question. It doesn't mean it should not be answered.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Google brings up several. It all depends on if you really want an answer.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)fighting the civil rights movement. We should be able to ask, when? I did the research and I am not showing that Sanders went any further south than Washington DC or South Chicago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)to spend all day looking for the answers you want for your questions . Sounds like you're part way there already. Keep it up and don't waste my time. I'm not Rev. Sharpton's spokesperson, if you think he's lying your beef is with him so contact him and demand a retraction.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)being asked. Maybe someone else will have the information. I am good with being wrong. I simply do not have information showing Sanders in the South fighting for the civil rights movement. I would like that information if it is correct. If it is not correct and Sanders never was in the south fighting for the civil rights movement, I think he should not get credit for a fight he was not in.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)on a hundred different topic and current events. Many without links. Maybe you might want to look and correct them. I posted what a civil rights leader has to say about Bernie. If you are so very concerned that he's a liar do an OP correcting Rev. Sharpton. This is a message board people put information out there. I'm not his spokesman and I'm not about to speak for him. YMMV
If you don't have any information you aren't looking for information. Or you aren't willing to accept information that you don't like. Either way it's not my problem.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)post. Someone else might read this and have the answer for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
llashram
(6,265 posts)reply #40. Your question is answered in black and white. Clear as day. And Snopes has an interesting take on this subject
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)I have read that article more than once.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
but John Lewis didn't and he was close to MLK.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
yet...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Response to Autumn (Reply #45)
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llashram
(6,265 posts)the truth is out there as fact. please refer to reply # 40. You have a good one I'm done with this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)of his personal life, including his consistent history of activism, despite the efforts of his campaign staff who think it would help him.
But he did do a hell of a lot in Chicago. Like chaining himself to a bunch of people, mostly black women, to block bulldozers that were clearing space to install shitty mobile classrooms for black kids rather than allowing them into the white schools with vacant seats:
Perhaps Rev Al misspoke, or perhaps he knows more of the story than we do. I don't know.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)It's ridiculous that anyone bought into the fake revolution to begin with.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hav
(5,969 posts)He talks about people accusing someone of being a socialist. In Sanders' case, that's the label he chose for himself until he ran for President. There is a difference between getting that label from others and embracing it for himself.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)and other civil rights leaders in the 60s are the same socialist, red commie scare tactics we are hearing today. Bernie calls himself a democratic socialist. He has never called himself a communist. Bloomer and other people are calling Sanders a red commie and likening him to nazi's . Reverend Sharpton is calling them out on it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)So there's that. None of the other candidates has that bit of history.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunasun
(21,646 posts)https://www.prwatch.org/news/2016/01/13017/how-charles-koch-backed-john-birch-society-height-its-attacks-martin-luther-king
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2013/bringing-back-birch
The FBI hated him and called him everything possible
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41871956
Many of the allegations contained in the paper appear to be reports of private conversations between others, or hearsay reported third-hand.
Shades of trump some people say
Done posting this too many times
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Mouth
(3,164 posts)Too damn many different definitions of it.
National Socialism
International Socialism
Democratic Socialist
Social Democracy
Annoying; it's hard to talk about something with such differing definitions
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redqueen
(115,103 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OkSustainAg
(203 posts)As we develop on the evolutionary scale we face larger problems. We are individuals and we come to the collective by choice and by our nature to help our groups no matter the size. My own personality ventures more to the altruistic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Other than going to Washington in the summer of 1963, his entire civil right activity took place while he was a student at the University of Chicago for three years.
In a Mother Jones article, speaking about John Lewis and Sanders:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/bernie-sanders-core-university-chicago/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tritsofme
(17,403 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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no_hypocrisy
(46,202 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided