Democratic Primaries
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Response to Donkees (Original post)
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lapucelle
(18,346 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And I'm guessing you'll find an excuse why it's not your responsibility to support your own words with objective evidence... I guess that's something not taught in home schools.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)And they think this stuff is POSITIVE!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,346 posts)who own and control our country."
Mind destroying schools...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brutus smith
(685 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,346 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)Shit is getting cray.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hav
(5,969 posts)rightwingers? Is it their job to indoctrinate them with an ideology? That's the shit we usually hear from...well, rightwingers.
I guess that's that's the kind of argument you get when everything BS says has to be taken as gospel.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatrickforO
(14,592 posts)Now, it is much worse, I think. Kids learning 'creationism'. Jefferson Davis getting equal time in textbooks with Lincoln. New Math. Whole Language.
I went to a very good elementary school and we learned phonics, grammar and spelling, memorized multiplication tables, learned the basics of life and physical science. I can't remember much social studies there, though I'm sure we had it.
Then I did my sixth grade school year in Lubbock, TX. That was a holy roller joke.
Junior high and high school were OK, but by the time I got there were watered down. I would never have gotten the education I did if I weren't a voracious reader, and didn't like historical novels.
I'm not going to cut Bernie down for saying THAT in 1978, for sure. Remember the old Pink Floyd song off Wish You Were Here?
Welcome my son.
Welcome to the machine.
Where have you been?
We know where you've been.
You've been in the pipeline,
Filling in time.
Provided with toys,
And scouting for boys.
You didn't like school.
But you know you're nobody's fool!
Welcome to the machine.
It was like that for me, I think.
Though, to be fair, I should point out that it was during this era that the Republican fear mongering was gaining a foothold. There were plenty of drugs, but all the kids were tired - Vietnam was over. The Civil Rights Act was passed. The seventies was kind of a 'me' decade, you know?
Then my cohort all got jobs and/or went to college or vo-tech. And we worked. I've been a work now for over 45 years.
It IS a machine, and if you listened to George Carlin, you knew the rich didn't want us to think or be able to reason or God forbid be politically active. Nope. They wanted us to be obedient workers.
Now, about 43% of the people are that. Their minds are essentially destroyed.
Then, you have a huge swath of people who can't even tell you the basics of how our government works.
There's just a few of us, but we're products of the machine as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,457 posts)Not even his vocabulary changed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,346 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,280 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,457 posts)His "future" is nothing more than a long-forgotten past. Young Bernie supporters haven't learned the lessons of history, and are doomed to repeat it.
A curious and depressing coincidence: two years after Bernie's full of moral conviction resolution, Reagan won the Presidency in a landslide, and Senate went Republican for the first time in 28 years.
Not a good time to bring this up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,520 posts)...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,457 posts)40 years, and even the wording didn't change...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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beastie boy
(9,457 posts)In this kind of timeline, how long do you think it will take him to get M4A, or any part of his platform, passed?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to beastie boy (Reply #20)
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HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)General strikes
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,520 posts)...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Response to David__77 (Reply #29)
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beastie boy
(9,457 posts)That's frightening indeed! Especially to Jeff Bezos. What will he do with all the extra billions he makes? He will have to invest all of it in the emerging markets!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)https://www.natlawreview.com/article/can-you-terminate-employee-talking-to-press
Sanders said, ahead of a weekend Iowa campaign swing: "We are disappointed that some individuals have decided to damage the integrity of these efforts. We are involved in negotiations. And some are individuals that have decided to damage the integrity of that process before they were concluded."
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2019/07/19/bernie-sanders-campaign-staff-wage-15-hour-union-elizabeth-warren-campaign-wages/1781159001/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)trying to convince people to strike in order to get anything done?
You really don't have much confidence in him, do you?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,457 posts)then he plans to use what I assume you describe as organized labor to engage in economic sabotage to disable the government...
May I remind you that this is populist thuggery our founding fathers warned us about?
Organized labor is a small and dwindling minority in this country. Labor, on the other hand, includes people like lawyers, corporate managers, engineers, and, believe it or not, government employees. They are all salaried workers. How many of them will strike to grind the country to a halt, bringing untold havoc to their lives?
Labor in the US ain't what it used to be, considering, among other things, automation, the global nature of supply and distribution chains, as well as workforce itself.
Hence the reference to a fossil and the young people who haven't learned anything from history.
...Another 40 years, if we are lucky and the country doesn't go to hell in a basket? Perhaps.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to beastie boy (Reply #40)
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)in an effort to get his policies enacted, why do you promote him as a candidate?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,457 posts)Imagine that he does, and the Congress votes immediately to make all strikes and unions illegal. How much support do you think he will have in Congress after he fails to convince Congress in the first year to go along with him? Will he then ignore the rule of law and disband Congress?
This smacks of a banana republic populist authoritarianism. And this is exactly why Sanders is so dangerous to the Republic.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)"People trust him."
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2020/jan/09/bernie-sanders/did-biden-laud-paul-ryan-proposal-cut-social-secur/
Sanders presidential campaign and allies have highlighted similar remarks by Joe Biden to attack the former vice president and make the explosive charge that Biden was an outspoken proponent of slashing the program.
https://apnews.com/31c432f20acba807a569c7004abaf473
Sanders camp admits anti-Warren script was deployed in multiple early states
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?category=&ruling=false&speaker=bernie-sanders
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jayschool2013
(2,313 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatrickforO
(14,592 posts)That's what a lot of people like about him. Super Tuesday coming up...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,346 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(7,394 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,425 posts)Thanks for the thread Donkees.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JudyM
(29,280 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,346 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,346 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(7,394 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bucolic_frolic
(43,307 posts)Nothing could help Trump more than to nominate Sanders
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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