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RandySF

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Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:25 PM Apr 2019

Bernie speaks on immigration in Iowa.





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Sen. Bernie Sanders campaigns in Oskaloosa, IA: "If you open the borders, there's a lot of poverty in this world, and you're going to have people from all over the world. And I don't think that's something that we can do at this point. Can't do it."
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Bernie speaks on immigration in Iowa. (Original Post) RandySF Apr 2019 OP
So the false narrative that Democrats favor "open borders" has apparently taken root. lapucelle Apr 2019 #1
Follow the twitter link. nt sheshe2 Apr 2019 #2
The Hill... lapucelle Apr 2019 #4
... sheshe2 Apr 2019 #5
There you have it. Skidmore Apr 2019 #3
It is a pretty cold, dispassionate response. lapucelle Apr 2019 #6
You would think. Skidmore Apr 2019 #9
Like he does at his rallies. namahage Apr 2019 #35
Things like this solidify my opposition to him as our nominee... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #7
Me too. What a horrible thing to say. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author TCJ70 Apr 2019 #8
I think his answer is pretty clear. RandySF Apr 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author TCJ70 Apr 2019 #16
Sanders' views on trade, tariffs, and immigration are just too close to Hoyt Apr 2019 #10
Dayummmm.... ehrnst Apr 2019 #11
the guy asking the question seemed to be repeating right wing bs JI7 Apr 2019 #12
Yeah...I hope people watch the video rather than just knee-jerk... TCJ70 Apr 2019 #13
"Usual suspects" ehrnst Apr 2019 #19
Look in the mirror before you accuse Cha Apr 2019 #20
;) sheshe2 Apr 2019 #25
For the benefit of doubt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #23
I watched the video. lapucelle Apr 2019 #24
Bernie would never, ever say "Democrats like me"...nt SidDithers Apr 2019 #26
That's why BS spoke for himself and himself alone. lapucelle Apr 2019 #29
Or, no Democrat running for office... mcar Apr 2019 #32
Lack of empathy is striking BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #14
The demographics of Vermont.... ehrnst Apr 2019 #21
That explains it perfectly n/t BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #22
Wow nt DesertRat Apr 2019 #17
"When I voted against a pathway to citizenship..." WeekiWater Apr 2019 #18
Chasing the economically anxious white working class vote...nt SidDithers Apr 2019 #27
So revolution. Much progressive. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #28
Umm, who said anything about open borders? mcar Apr 2019 #30
He said he is not in favor of open borders. He did not evade the question. marylandblue Apr 2019 #33
Jay Peak, EB-5 Visas. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #34
The country is full? betsuni Apr 2019 #36
Thank you Alien Symphony Apr 2019 #37
Wow, so Bernie is parroting Trump octoberlib Apr 2019 #38
 

lapucelle

(18,276 posts)
1. So the false narrative that Democrats favor "open borders" has apparently taken root.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:37 PM
Apr 2019

I don't like that the people of any single state wield so much power in determining our nominee.

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sheshe2

(83,793 posts)
2. Follow the twitter link. nt
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:44 PM
Apr 2019
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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
3. There you have it.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:48 PM
Apr 2019

Who is worthy enough for Sanders to be allowed to be an immigrant? Pandering To Trumpers is no allowed on these topics.

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lapucelle

(18,276 posts)
6. It is a pretty cold, dispassionate response.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:04 PM
Apr 2019

He should have stopped at "I favor comprehensive immigration reform."

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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
9. You would think.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:42 PM
Apr 2019

SMH. It's either tone deaf or intentional.

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namahage

(1,157 posts)
35. Like he does at his rallies.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 01:15 AM
Apr 2019
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-iowa-2020-rally-speech-transcript-2019-3

Today, we say to the American people that instead of demonizing the undocumented immigrants in this country, we're going to pass comprehensive immigration reform and provide a path toward citizenship. We're going to provide legal status to the 1.8 million young people eligible for the DACA program, and develop a humane border policy for those who seek asylum. No more snatching babies from the arms of their mothers.


When forced off his canned stump speeches he tends to blunder. Perhaps he will fare better against a Fox News audience on April 15--or, at least, that is what his supporters will say regardless of the outcome.
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NurseJackie

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7. Things like this solidify my opposition to him as our nominee...
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:14 PM
Apr 2019

Things like this solidify my opposition to him as our nominee. I imagine I'm not the only one.

This "open border" shit... insinuating that that's what Democrats support... these are RW talking points he's spouting here, right?

What good purpose does it serve for anyone to try and equate Democrats with Republicans?

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Demsrule86

(68,591 posts)
31. Me too. What a horrible thing to say.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:21 PM
Apr 2019
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RandySF

(58,924 posts)
15. I think his answer is pretty clear.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:54 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to RandySF (Reply #15)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. Sanders' views on trade, tariffs, and immigration are just too close to
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:50 PM
Apr 2019

that of the current Prez for me.

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JI7

(89,252 posts)
12. the guy asking the question seemed to be repeating right wing bs
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:54 PM
Apr 2019

claiming people support open borders and people coming here are all going to get welfare.

I see that shit all over the internet from ignorant asses.


when the fact is most people coming here are looking for work and do work. if they agree undocumented they are actually paying more into the system than they can get back.

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Undecided
 

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
13. Yeah...I hope people watch the video rather than just knee-jerk...
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:59 PM
Apr 2019

...react to this. Who am I kidding? The usual suspects already have.

The guys question is a combination of two familiar RW tricks:
1. Anything involving “open borders”
2. And “how do you pay for it?”

“How do you pay for it” isn’t always part of the propaganda because funding matters. It is in this guy’s case, though.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. "Usual suspects"
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 06:59 PM
Apr 2019
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Cha

(297,323 posts)
20. Look in the mirror before you accuse
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:00 PM
Apr 2019

anyone of being a "usual suspect".

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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
23. For the benefit of doubt
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:23 PM
Apr 2019

I'll take it that by "usual suspects" you mean people who are unfairly accused without evidence just because who they happen to be.

Am I right?

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lapucelle

(18,276 posts)
24. I watched the video.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:25 PM
Apr 2019

It's relatively easy to say

Democrats like me do not support open borders. We support comprehensive immigration reform. Here's my plan for getting that done..."

It's a shame that we didn't get it done in 2007.

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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
26. Bernie would never, ever say "Democrats like me"...nt
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 08:50 PM
Apr 2019

Sid

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lapucelle

(18,276 posts)
29. That's why BS spoke for himself and himself alone.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:00 PM
Apr 2019
"Not US...ME"

It's not as if there might be a strategic advantage in letting Iowans continue to believe the myth that Democrats in general are advocating for open borders...

If only we had someone in charge of outreach to set the record straight...



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mcar

(42,334 posts)
32. Or, no Democrat running for office...
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:23 PM
Apr 2019
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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
14. Lack of empathy is striking
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:29 PM
Apr 2019

There are many ways in which that response could have been crafted .... but the way it was delivered showed zero empathy.

Sanders' policies are all about his ideology and he never addresses the suffering of the minorities.

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ehrnst

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21. The demographics of Vermont....
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:01 PM
Apr 2019
The racial diversity among the population residing in the state of Vermont is currently at 94.7% Caucasian, 1.9% two or more races, 1.5% Asian, 1.2% African American, .4% other races, and .3% Natives of North America.


http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/vermont-population/

There's not much of a need for a Vermont politician to address those issues to be re-elected.
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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
22. That explains it perfectly n/t
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:20 PM
Apr 2019
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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
18. "When I voted against a pathway to citizenship..."
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 06:03 PM
Apr 2019

“I was really voting against...”

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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
27. Chasing the economically anxious white working class vote...nt
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 08:51 PM
Apr 2019

Sid

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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,357 posts)
28. So revolution. Much progressive.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 08:55 PM
Apr 2019
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Undecided
 

mcar

(42,334 posts)
30. Umm, who said anything about open borders?
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:21 PM
Apr 2019

Oh that's right, it's what Republicans say Democrats want. What is Bernie playing at here?

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marylandblue

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33. He said he is not in favor of open borders. He did not evade the question.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 11:10 PM
Apr 2019

Democrats can't ignore immigration as a key issue this time around.

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TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
34. Jay Peak, EB-5 Visas.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 12:47 AM
Apr 2019

Bernie didn't have any problems with the immigrants willing to pay up to a half million dollars to invest in the Jay Peak resort in Vermont to obtain EB-5 visas. I guess that some immigrants are better than others?

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betsuni

(25,544 posts)
36. The country is full?
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 02:12 AM
Apr 2019
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Alien Symphony

(13 posts)
37. Thank you
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 03:34 AM
Apr 2019

Bernie is the man.

He's so cool!

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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
38. Wow, so Bernie is parroting Trump
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 05:57 AM
Apr 2019

with the “America is full” bullshit, pandering to racists. This is why Elizabeth Warren is the far superior candidate. She’s excellent on policy and the legislative pathways to get them passed.

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