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Hey, Joe, can I have a hug? (Original Post) LakeArenal Apr 2019 OP
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #1
Nice misrepresentation: "grab me from behind and kiss my neck". democratisphere Apr 2019 #5
Talk about the "circular firing squad"! LakeArenal Apr 2019 #10
Biden has apologized and promised to listen. That wasnt good enough tymorial Apr 2019 #26
Heavens! It seems as though merely posting "Biden" and "hug" is enough for some to go "off'... hlthe2b Apr 2019 #13
pot stirrer posters are like cance(R), they'll be back Sunlei Apr 2019 #16
Because hugging is not the only physical contact he makes with women. Demit Apr 2019 #32
Asked and answered (by Biden). For some there will never be enough mea culpas for them; hlthe2b Apr 2019 #33
He might be sincere. Or he might continue making jokes about asking permission. Time will tell. Demit Apr 2019 #35
OMG.. He whispered. Now that's new... Since I haven't heard one claim about inappropriate whispering LakeArenal Apr 2019 #37
Funny stuff! You should send your jokes to Biden, maybe he'll use them. Demit Apr 2019 #40
Funnier than you forsure. Look how many appreciate my humor. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #41
Does he assault them? WeekiWater Apr 2019 #39
You forgot "grab", which Biden does not do. democratisphere Apr 2019 #36
lol fail ! stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #8
Me too, please. femmocrat Apr 2019 #2
Yep. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #11
For every person who would reject a hug by Biden, MineralMan Apr 2019 #3
+1. It was a clumsy attempt to smear a good man dalton99a Apr 2019 #4
The intent is not just to smear him but distract him. marylandblue Apr 2019 #18
I don't think so either PatSeg Apr 2019 #23
A hug from Joe would Polly Hennessey Apr 2019 #6
That would be a great slogan mainstreetonce Apr 2019 #7
"Joes hugs are awesome" Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #12
Love You Joe Biden! please stay undecided for as long as possible, D party needs you! Sunlei Apr 2019 #9
Jackpot....!!!!!!!!! Just 4 Words....Jackpot....!!!!! ..... "D party needs you!" Stuart G Apr 2019 #14
Wow. This whole thing lately on here just reminds me of.... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #15
good name, fits your posting style! Sunlei Apr 2019 #17
Joe can hug me ANYTIME!!! samnsara Apr 2019 #19
he has always been a demonstrative person orleans Apr 2019 #20
Nice post. Thanks. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #22
About princess Di. Doreen Apr 2019 #25
!! LakeArenal Apr 2019 #31
One of the very saddest things from Trump's child separation is that their "care-takers" hlthe2b Apr 2019 #29
I like the point Barbara Boxer made. . . do we want all men to be like Mike Pence? pdsimdars Apr 2019 #21
Oh yes PatSeg Apr 2019 #24
Love her statement! FloridaBlues Apr 2019 #27
She is sharp as ever PatSeg Apr 2019 #30
I would like one also Gothmog Apr 2019 #28
I want a hug from Joe. He is a very caring person. IluvPitties Apr 2019 #34
Such a sagacious OP BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #38
This gets right to the heart of the matter. Consent. aidbo Apr 2019 #42

Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
5. Nice misrepresentation: "grab me from behind and kiss my neck".
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:24 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
10. Talk about the "circular firing squad"!
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:40 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
26. Biden has apologized and promised to listen. That wasnt good enough
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:13 PM
Apr 2019

Where before I was on the fence as to whether this was a political hit, no more. Its shameful. Sometimes I dont think Democrats are happy unless they engage in political cannibalism

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hlthe2b

(102,293 posts)
13. Heavens! It seems as though merely posting "Biden" and "hug" is enough for some to go "off'...
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 11:07 AM
Apr 2019

Almost like a DU "Rorschach Test"...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
16. pot stirrer posters are like cance(R), they'll be back
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 11:28 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
32. Because hugging is not the only physical contact he makes with women.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 02:02 PM
Apr 2019

Because his defenders are emphasizing the hugs and ignoring the nuzzling from behind & whispering in women's ears.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

hlthe2b

(102,293 posts)
33. Asked and answered (by Biden). For some there will never be enough mea culpas for them;
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 02:11 PM
Apr 2019

Never an apology that says the exact words, in the exact order, the exact volume, the exact number of repetitions, the exact pitch, rate, and fluency THEY want to hear, never a pledge to learn from evolving societal norms that is sufficient.

And THAT refusal to ever show the grace to acknowledge an individual might be sincere in their pledge to actually learn, evolve and change is precisely why this is backfiring now--"bigly" as the orange menace would say (and who stands to benefit the most from this compounding).

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demit

(11,238 posts)
35. He might be sincere. Or he might continue making jokes about asking permission. Time will tell.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 02:17 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
37. OMG.. He whispered. Now that's new... Since I haven't heard one claim about inappropriate whispering
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:53 PM
Apr 2019

What new twist can be added to make this sound worse than it is...?

Imagine in a loud crowd, someone speaking into your ear... So that one might hear them...

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Demit

(11,238 posts)
40. Funny stuff! You should send your jokes to Biden, maybe he'll use them.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:33 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
41. Funnier than you forsure. Look how many appreciate my humor.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 09:43 AM
Apr 2019

As well as a big, whispery hug from Joe.

You aren’t going to get anyone at this post. At this point, everyone has moved on.... To a different support Joe thread.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
39. Does he assault them?
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 06:12 PM
Apr 2019

Harass them? Stalk them? Touch their privates?

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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
36. You forgot "grab", which Biden does not do.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:31 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
2. Me too, please.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:13 AM
Apr 2019

And I would hug him back, because I’m pretty sure he could use one too!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
3. For every person who would reject a hug by Biden,
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:21 AM
Apr 2019

there are a hundred who would love one.

That's the true takeaway from all this. Going after Joe Biden for being overly huggy is not a good way to hurt his chances, frankly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dalton99a

(81,516 posts)
4. +1. It was a clumsy attempt to smear a good man
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:24 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
18. The intent is not just to smear him but distract him.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 11:35 AM
Apr 2019

As long as we are talking about hugging, we are not talking about something more important. If it goes on long enough, people will think his whole campaign is "Let's all hug total strangers, it's never creepy."

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Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
23. I don't think so either
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:38 PM
Apr 2019

He was the wrong person to accuse of being inappropriate, as his defenders have come out talking about what a good, decent man he is and reinforcing all his positive qualities. You can't buy that kind of publicity. I think it is backfiring on his accusers and if they did it for political reasons, it will stick to them more than to Joe.

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Polly Hennessey

(6,799 posts)
6. A hug from Joe would
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:28 AM
Apr 2019

really matter because it would be genuine. 🥰

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mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
7. That would be a great slogan
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:31 AM
Apr 2019

for tee shirts

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Funtatlaguy

(10,879 posts)
12. "Joes hugs are awesome"
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:43 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
9. Love You Joe Biden! please stay undecided for as long as possible, D party needs you!
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:35 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
14. Jackpot....!!!!!!!!! Just 4 Words....Jackpot....!!!!! ..... "D party needs you!"
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 11:22 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
15. Wow. This whole thing lately on here just reminds me of....
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 11:25 AM
Apr 2019

Republicans who double down on any criticism, just to "piss off the libtards and snowflakes".

Whether it's posing with their guns just because they can, or wearing "Trump can grab my pussy" shirts or whatever else.

If people want to disagree on what the parameters of personal space or comfort levels or appropriate behavior from superiors in the work place is, or have those discussions that's fine. But so many of the posts on here lately about this issue have that relentless spite to them that I expect from Republicans but not from Democrats. "I'm fine with it, so what's YOUR problem?!?!"

Classy.

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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
17. good name, fits your posting style!
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 11:34 AM
Apr 2019

Senator Tammy Duckworth of Illinois said, “One thing I know about Joe Biden: He’s a man of his word. If he says he’ll do better then he’ll do better.” She added, “And I do believe that if the women felt that he was inappropriate we have to respect how they felt about it.”

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samnsara

(17,622 posts)
19. Joe can hug me ANYTIME!!!
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 11:38 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

orleans

(34,060 posts)
20. he has always been a demonstrative person
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:23 PM
Apr 2019

he tries to convey a message through a touch:
i'm with you, i care about you, you can do this, i'm glad to meet you/know you, etc.

i believe he is a sincere, warm, open person. a genuine person who strives to connect with others which includes through the sense of touch.

i've never been a "touchy feely" kind of person and while i, too, have experienced a sense of feeling uncomfortable or awkward when given hugs or when someone has put their arm around me, i have always understood the positive or encouraging nature & meaning behind it and where it was coming from.

i was also one of those people who used to gesture and touch someone's arm during a conversation. i did it to demonstrate to them that we were making a connection, or that i empathized, or to offer a bit of encouragement. (i guess i was okay with a little touch but just uneasy with a one or two arm hug.)

i had a partner who was extremely bothered/jealous by the fact that i reached out and touched other people during conversations. i literally began putting my hands under my thighs to keep from doing that. that was in the early 1980s.

it appears some people would never have survived the 60s & 70s with all the touchiness that went on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
22. Nice post. Thanks.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:36 PM
Apr 2019

I feel the same.

Plus, I think to not expect hugs at a public event of celebration, or support, or remembrance, or all three, is unusual.

It’s sad to think teachers can’t hug kids anymore or ruffle their hair or pat their back.

Joe had a bunch of criticism for saying social norms have changed. But it’s true they have. It’s sad to me.

I think now how Princess Di used to physically touch people. Everyone thought it was beautiful then.

Times have indeed changed.

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Doreen

(11,686 posts)
25. About princess Di.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:08 PM
Apr 2019

She is a woman and most of society expects women to be touchy feely because we are supposed to be maternal. It is ALWAYS the male politicians who are being accused.

Please remind me which female politicians have gotten mercilessly attacked for touching.

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hlthe2b

(102,293 posts)
29. One of the very saddest things from Trump's child separation is that their "care-takers"
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:45 PM
Apr 2019

are absolutely the opposite of providing care. They do not touch, they do not comfort, they do NOTHING to help these psychically damaged children.

How I wish they had caring people WHO WOULD use benign touch to comfort them to help them cope.
To have a grandfatherly figure like Biden reach out and hug them, put a shoulder on their arm, tell them he understands and most importantly show that he CARES--how much of a difference might that make. That human connection is invaluable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
21. I like the point Barbara Boxer made. . . do we want all men to be like Mike Pence?
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:31 PM
Apr 2019

Who won't go in a room with a woman unless the door is left open.
Can't have it both ways. Either you have people who care for each other or are afraid to.

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PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
24. Oh yes
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:53 PM
Apr 2019

Boxer was great on Chris Hayes. I love her remarks about younger politicians who just rolled out of bed and ended up in the Democratic party, "I'm everything you want, because I was born yesterday".

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PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
30. She is sharp as ever
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:52 PM
Apr 2019

and I appreciate her reaction to what she perceived as naive ageism. Much of what she said was in response to Michelle Goldberg.

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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
28. I would like one also
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:41 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
34. I want a hug from Joe. He is a very caring person.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 02:12 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
38. Such a sagacious OP
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 05:31 PM
Apr 2019

Some people want to transform a comforting hug into something scandalous!

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aidbo

(2,328 posts)
42. This gets right to the heart of the matter. Consent.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 10:06 AM
Apr 2019
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