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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:03 AM Apr 2019

I hate to see what is happening to Joe Biden. It is the same kind of eliminating

one of the Democrats good candidates that was done to Howard Dean: Make them look erratic. Media blows it up and the uninformed jump on the bandwagon. I still stand with Joe Biden!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I hate to see what is happening to Joe Biden. It is the same kind of eliminating (Original Post) mfcorey1 Apr 2019 OP
You mean Howard Dean and yes. Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #1
Thanks for the correction! mfcorey1 Apr 2019 #3
and kerry too! Im still supporting Joe more than ever now....i wish he would run soon cuz I need... samnsara Apr 2019 #2
This story has... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #7
Yes... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #9
As if sexism and paternalism don't exist now. Skidmore Apr 2019 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #5
Whoever wins will need a media strategy to handle this. marylandblue Apr 2019 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Apr 2019 #16
Not only is it a hug... LakeArenal Apr 2019 #8
These attacks on Joe will not work Gothmog Apr 2019 #10
I hate it, too Politicub Apr 2019 #11
Word. People inadvertantly make each other feel uncomfortable all the time in all sorts of ways UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #14
Please, they just made fun of him on SNL...he's in it to win it...Bet on Biden! nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #13
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,879 posts)
1. You mean Howard Dean and yes.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:06 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
3. Thanks for the correction!
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:15 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
2. and kerry too! Im still supporting Joe more than ever now....i wish he would run soon cuz I need...
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:09 AM
Apr 2019

...new bumperstickers..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
4. This story has...
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:26 AM
Apr 2019

… taken off big time. It's strange how things take off, or don't... the Anita Hill thing (which I consider important to consider) went nowhere, while the "handsy-touchy" Biden story is everywhere. And, we all knew that about him... AND, it's not sexual... Also, while Trump says 100 stupid things every time he opens his mouth, this "wind causes cancer!" thing is also all over social media. I guess we've got to predict what causes the public to "go for it" and be strategic. Partly, that's how the Russians helped The Donald.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #4)

 

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
9. Yes...
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:12 AM
Apr 2019

… and the subtext to all this "paternalism and sexism" is that he's too old - from a bygone era. He's played into this, I think, with his folksy humor at that conference, recently... I think the Anita Hill issue is fair... but every candidate is going to have weak areas and I'm not looking for perfect. I have always thought Biden would not do well in the primary contest. Maybe I'm wrong, as he does look good in the polls, this time... we'll see, I suppose... His percentage, here, has gone up. I hope he gets through this with a reputation for his good qualities and accomplishments.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
12. As if sexism and paternalism don't exist now.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 02:18 PM
Apr 2019

It does. By the freight loads. It is not a magical, enlightened time we live in. "Old white guys" aren't the only ones standing in the way of women's equality, or equality perod. Quite a few young ones have been trained to step a new generation up to grab onto whatever vehicle for they can to perpetuate their prejudices.

Biden doesn't worry me because I think he is willing to listen, and change. I'm much more concerned about those Trump has let crawl out from under the rocks who would harm without thought of mercy. The one's who think trafficking children for pedophiles is just fine. The ones who corral people in cages where we know young people are raped and assaulted by caretakers. The ones who consider that women were "created" as lesser than man and for his pleasure or as brood mares.

Biden has stated that he will not impose his church's doctrine on others. I believe he is a man of his word.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #9)

Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
6. Whoever wins will need a media strategy to handle this.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 09:47 AM
Apr 2019

Bill Clinton had a war room to immediately respond to negative stories in the media.

Klobuchar had some could quick comebacks to the attacks on her.

Biden seems to have respond slowly and doesn't have a disciplined communication strategy. His video response was good, but hastily put together and no follow through.

He should change the subject. He could announce his candidacy now, or put out a policy statement.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to marylandblue (Reply #6)

 

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
8. Not only is it a hug...
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:07 AM
Apr 2019

It’s in public, in front of cameras.
Not in the hall, not in the green room, not in his hotel room.
Strong Democratic women who have been speaking against this stuff for years, are unable to turn to someone in public and say politely, “Please don’t. “?

Why? Because Joe would say, “Hell no, baby..”? Take the benefit of having Joe stump for you, then years later saying you were “uncomfortable”.

It’s the Franken Railroad all over.

It does remind me of Gillibrand dissing Clinton’s after they helped elect her.

Very poor form indeed.

Hey, Joe, can I have a hug?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
10. These attacks on Joe will not work
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:42 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
11. I hate it, too
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:47 PM
Apr 2019

Makes me sick to my stomach, actually. He's a good person, and hasn't abused anyone. He's guilty of making a couple of people uncomfortable, but who hasn't made someone uncomfortable?

I have the gay accent... that makes some people uncomfortable. My old co-worker was super-huggy with everyone, and I'm sure she's made people uncomfortable. My neighbor gave a shifty look toward my dog as we walked by because his bladder made her uncomfortable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
14. Word. People inadvertantly make each other feel uncomfortable all the time in all sorts of ways
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 04:00 PM
Apr 2019

for all sorts of reasons! And yes one is dog walking...plenty of homeowners who think they own the grass by the street, which you don't around here MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE with their piss patrol and snide fucking comments.

One comment too many though and guess what....I'll be making your ass uncomfortable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
13. Please, they just made fun of him on SNL...he's in it to win it...Bet on Biden! nt
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 03:56 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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