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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 10:55 PM Apr 2019

Plan A - code word "Touchy-Feely" did not have

the affect we thought. Let's implement Plan B. Biden, 14 years ago caused the recession.

I will support our nominee, but JHC, very leery of anyone who spends their time trashing Biden. He is the one who leads by the most points in a matchup and Trump's antithesis.

If you could spend your time convincing us why and how your choice could win MI, WI, and PA, which is what it boils down to, that would be great.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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OhZone

(3,212 posts)
1. It is getting to be a little much.
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 11:12 PM
Apr 2019

And it's so obvious. Geez.


Oh well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
13. It is and the whining that certain candidates have been attacked unfairly while supporters have
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:42 AM
Apr 2019

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launched one of the most vicious smears I have ever seen is definitely scorched earth...seems familiar.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
2. Unfortunately, it's going to continue as long as . . .
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 11:42 PM
Apr 2019

Biden is the threat that he is at the moment. He begins to fade in the polls, the attacks and accusations will decrease. But the fact that Joe Biden has a natural connection to the working-class vote in PA, WI, and MI makes him a huge target for the Left and the Right.

Despite all the noise, Biden is still well-liked and well-regarded by the electorate. Opponents will try their damnest to reduce his popularity. We saw this happen with Hillary Clinton who left the State Department with nearly a 70% approval rating. The whittling down went on for four long years. And it worked.

Rinse and Repeat.

So, if one attack falls flat (and I agree, the touchy-feely campaign collapsed), the next one is ready to go.

It's going to be a long, long election season!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
4. I'd say that the "whittling down" of Hillary didn't work
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:14 AM
Apr 2019

since she won the popular vote by 3 million votes and only lost due to a corrupt election.
Try to stay on track with your information!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
6. I've been a huge Hillary Clinton fan since the 1990s
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:32 AM
Apr 2019

Yes, she won those 3 million votes. And yes, the election was hinky. But HRC's margins could have been vastly larger and then . . .

She would have won the presidency and we wouldn't be straddled with the Squatter-in-Chief.

Hillary was always a target of the Right but the 4 years leading up to her presidential run she was continuously, unmercifully demonized. By the Left and the Right. That 70% approval number dropped off dramatically until her numbers were actually underwater. That was purposeful and only added to all the other things swirling like a dark cloud during the 2016 campaign.

And the rest is history, a very sad history.

My point remains: Let's not repeat the things we can control. Like buying into false narratives.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
5. The attacks on - and lies about HRC -
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:18 AM
Apr 2019

were decades long.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
7. They were indeed decades long
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:35 AM
Apr 2019

But the attacks and lies geared up dramatically once HRC's opponents realized she was running and was a huge threat to their own ambitions.

We're watching a repeat right now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
12. Joe is the candidate, most like to beat Trump.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 07:38 AM
Apr 2019

My second choice is now Tim Ryan who can take Ohio. I want to win. We need to have someone from the midwest on the ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
3. It is ridiculously obvious
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 11:45 PM
Apr 2019

what their agenda is .... and it seems extremely well-coordinated.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
14. Well-coordinated and funded with foreign money, imo
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:16 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
8. Biden caused the recession, Biden caused the wars, Biden condemned college students
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:50 AM
Apr 2019

to lives of debt slavery, Biden improperly squeezes females. Better get used to leftovers cause we're going to be eating freshly canned spam every day for the next two years.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
9. He has yet to be accused of running a . . .
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:03 AM
Apr 2019

child sex-ring out of a pizza parlor. But I'm sure there's a suitable variation.

(sigh)

A long, long election cycle is approaching.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
10. Yes very long!
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:13 AM
Apr 2019

Biden has good teflon so I'm not worried but I'm very glad to see Barack stepping into the fray as he is one person who can really put some wind in Joe's sails when he needs it!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
11. Joe may gain support.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 01:37 AM
Apr 2019

“I fought the smear campaign and I won!!”

Quit eating our own.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. Exactly. Tell us why our choice is the one
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:34 AM
Apr 2019

without trashing the others. That would at least mean we don't develop such strong feelings that we can't vote for the winner because we are so convinced our candidate was the only one and that the winner is a terrible person.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
16. I agree & just yesterday Obama said the 'D circular firing squads'are not a good thing.
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 10:56 AM
Apr 2019
“In my career, I’ve always tried to make a human connection — that’s my responsibility, I think,” said Mr. Biden, sitting on a sofa, his legs crossed. “I shake hands, I hug people, I grab men and women by the shoulders and say, ‘You can do this.’”

“Social norms have begun to change, they’ve shifted, and the boundaries of protecting personal space have been reset and I get it. I get it. I hear what they’re saying.”

“I’ll always believe governing — quite frankly life for that matter — is about connecting with people. That won’t change,” he said in the video. “But I will be more mindful and respectful of people’s personal space.”

"Social norms are changing. I understand that, and I’ve heard what these women are saying. Politics to me has always been about making connections, but I will be more mindful about respecting personal space in the future. That’s my responsibility and I will meet it."


Joe Biden is a man of his word.
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