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George II

(67,782 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:43 PM Feb 2020

FLORIDA Senator Annette Taddeo's response to Sanders' Cuba comments:

Taddeo's twitter profile:

Senator proudly representing District 40 in Miami, Florida. @LanguageSpeak CEO, Progressive Miami Latina Jew, Proud Mom to Sofia & my Doggies


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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FLORIDA Senator Annette Taddeo's response to Sanders' Cuba comments: (Original Post) George II Feb 2020 OP
Bernie just keeps giving Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #1
Lack of judgement. Lack of awareness. Maybe lack of history shown by immature praise of emmaverybo Feb 2020 #2
Definitely a lack of something, that's for sure. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #4
Ooops oasis Feb 2020 #3
And then some. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #5
Hey what's a few thousand nazi-like executions compared to a massive literary program! jmg257 Feb 2020 #6
Florida Democratic Party disavows Sanders. Gothmog Feb 2020 #7
Wow! That's gonna leave a mark on the BS campaign! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #9
I will be voting for anyone but Bernie or Tulsi when Florida starts Blue_true Feb 2020 #10
I haven't made up my mind EXCEPT that it won't be Bernie. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #11
He is one who has a really hard time believing that he is ever wrong. boston bean Feb 2020 #14
I'm still waiting for an apology for all the horrible lies that have been told about the Democrats... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #15
That resembles someone that we all know (unfortunately). nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #17
Did they really just refer to Bautista's Cuba and Samoza's Nicaragua as "democracies"?? Jake Stern Feb 2020 #27
Really hits the message home, doesn't it? redqueen Feb 2020 #32
Thank you, Goth! Cha Feb 2020 #31
Biden campaign response to sanders praising Fidel Castro Gothmog Feb 2020 #8
That's BRUTAL!! (And oh so true. So very true!) NurseJackie Feb 2020 #12
Obama made the same comments. OliverQ Feb 2020 #13
When? Where? George II Feb 2020 #18
Of course Bernie is right about Cuba. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #16
Cubans struggle to get food and even basic products like toothpaste. IluvPitties Feb 2020 #23
That's mostly due to our trade embargo. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #25
No, Bernie Sanders' Discussion of Cuba's Castro is Nothing Like Obama's Gothmog Feb 2020 #28
This talking point being used by sanders supporters is simply false Gothmog Feb 2020 #29
How so? totodeinhere Feb 2020 #36
TLDR David__77 Feb 2020 #19
One sentence is "TLDR"? George II Feb 2020 #21
you can always count on @JoeBiden to defend @BarackObama 's record and legacy. Gothmog Feb 2020 #30
As well he should. Not many others, including some Democrats, don't do so enough. George II Feb 2020 #34
Thank you Sen. Taddeo NCProgressive Feb 2020 #20
Excellent! IluvPitties Feb 2020 #22
I sure hope this is covered in tomorrow's debate mcar Feb 2020 #24
the problem is once you drill down below leadership these arguments fall apart. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #26
Taddeo upset the jackass Jose Felix Diaz three years ago Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #33
Good to know Cha Feb 2020 #35
Havana gives front-page coverage to Bernie Sanders for praising Fidel Castro Gothmog Feb 2020 #37
KICK Cha Feb 2020 #38
Two things happened today including Cuba endorsing sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #39
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
2. Lack of judgement. Lack of awareness. Maybe lack of history shown by immature praise of
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 04:22 PM
Feb 2020

failed and brutal socialist and communist regimes.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. Definitely a lack of something, that's for sure.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 04:40 PM
Feb 2020

After this... and his month-of-silence after learning Russia was helping him... he's simply unqualified... or disqualified. It's beyond the pale. He should withdraw now.

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jmg257

(11,996 posts)
6. Hey what's a few thousand nazi-like executions compared to a massive literary program!
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 04:52 PM
Feb 2020

Control the propaganda AND make sure your subjects can read it.

Whats not to like?

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Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
7. Florida Democratic Party disavows Sanders.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:08 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Wow! That's gonna leave a mark on the BS campaign!
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:23 PM
Feb 2020

What in the world was Sanders thinking? It's yet another failed leadership test. He just doesn't have the "chops" when it comes to things like this. He simply does not have the demeanor and diplomatic gravitas that's needed to be the Leader of the Free World. Thankfully I'm not the only one who's seeing it.

All I'm saying is: we can do better and we (as Democrats and as a nation) deserve better.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. I will be voting for anyone but Bernie or Tulsi when Florida starts
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:31 PM
Feb 2020

voting on March 8 (first day of early voting, need to check). The primary day in Match 17 for Florida.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. I haven't made up my mind EXCEPT that it won't be Bernie.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:33 PM
Feb 2020

Even if it came down to Tulsi and Bernie... I'd vote for her... and I don't even like her.

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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
14. He is one who has a really hard time believing that he is ever wrong.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:41 PM
Feb 2020

Have you ever heard him say it?

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. I'm still waiting for an apology for all the horrible lies that have been told about the Democrats...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:44 PM
Feb 2020

Where's the apology and retraction?

It's NOT TRUE that Democrats are "ideologically bankrupt". It's NOT TRUE that the Democrats are "intellectually bankrupt". It's NOT TRUE that Democrats are "feeble". It's NOT TRUE that Democrats are "corrupt". It's NOT TRUE that the Democratic party is an "absolute failure". It's NOT TRUE that the Democratic party is "the party of the one-percent". It's NOT TRUE that the Democratic party is the "party of the elite". It's NOT TRUE that there's "no difference between Democrats and Republicans." It's NOT TRUE that the Democrats "are the same as the GOP". It's NOT TRUE that Democrats are "do-nothings". It's NOT TRUE that the Democratic party "doesn't care about climate change." It's NOT TRUE that the Democrats "focus too much" on diversity. It's also NOT TRUE that people who the refuse to vote for an African-American because of his skin color "aren't racists". It's also NOT TRUE that the Democrats who "are very big into diversity" aren't "particularly sympathetic" to the working class.

This is the type of negativity that DOES divide the party. I creates anger, distrust, resentment, suspicion... and that weakens us. A divided party is a weak party. What good purpose does it serve to attack Democrats and the Democratic party?

All I'm trying to say is that this is the cause of so much negativity. Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. That resembles someone that we all know (unfortunately). nt
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:50 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
27. Did they really just refer to Bautista's Cuba and Samoza's Nicaragua as "democracies"??
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:23 PM
Feb 2020

Are these people for real?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
32. Really hits the message home, doesn't it?
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:38 AM
Feb 2020

Really shows the true colors of a lot of the people in this party.

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Undecided
 

Cha

(297,275 posts)
31. Thank you, Goth!
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 01:34 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
8. Biden campaign response to sanders praising Fidel Castro
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:19 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. That's BRUTAL!! (And oh so true. So very true!)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:35 PM
Feb 2020

It's a well-deserved smack-down. Sanders embarrasses me. I can't believe he said that... and I can't believe he double-downed and defended it.

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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
13. Obama made the same comments.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:38 PM
Feb 2020

Annette is just being intentionally dishonest. The US literally backed a Cuban dictator.

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Undecided
 

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
16. Of course Bernie is right about Cuba.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:47 PM
Feb 2020

Castro has a complicated legacy, but to say he was all bad is not correct. The Cuban people have access to a better health care system than we do.

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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
23. Cubans struggle to get food and even basic products like toothpaste.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:07 PM
Feb 2020

What is the benefit of having "free" health care if I struggle to get the basics to survive?

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totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
25. That's mostly due to our trade embargo.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:18 PM
Feb 2020

President Obama tried to change that but then when Trump got in he brought it back.

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Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
28. No, Bernie Sanders' Discussion of Cuba's Castro is Nothing Like Obama's
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 04:56 PM
Feb 2020



Eric Levitz in New York Magazine on Monday makes the case that Bernie Sanders’ 1985 interview admiring some aspects of Fidel Castro’s regime in Cuba was roughly the same as Barack Obama’s 2016 discussion of Castro. This is in large part just an amplification of ideas flying around Twitter this week, as in the tweet pictured above. A quick look at Sanders’ and Obama’s statements shows why this analysis is entirely incorrect.

In 2016, Obama was addressing hundreds of young business and social entrepreneurs from across Latin America in Buenos Aires, Argentina. If you read the transcript of his talk, you see immediately that Obama, in his signature style, was reinforcing the message of pragmatism and evidence-based decision making — as he puts it “be[ing] practical and just choos[ing] from what works.” He was in fact arguing against ideology, at a time when he must have been watching the destabilizing effects the surge in ideological politics was causing not just in the United States but in other countries long considered staid and practical.

In discussing Cuba, Obama relayed direct conversations he had with the Castros, insight into the diplomacy of highlighting policy areas where there might be more agreement in order to create common ground with space to push for change in other areas. I doubt many would think it rational to approach a nascent foreign relationship with a guns blazing, take no prisoners attitude, especially when any agreement depended on the other country’s support. Obama was relaying one relatively high stakes conversation with foreign leaders to another unaligned audience in a foreign venue. I expect it does not take an expert in international relations to see the U.S. interest in pitching this information a certain way for both of these audiences.

In contrast, Bernie Sanders’ 1985 interview was not conducted for foreign consumption or to support U.S. national interests, and it did not come at a time of opening up in the U.S.-Cuba relationship. Instead, it was given for a local public access TV show. It was effectively a vanity project giving Sanders a platform to expound his views of politics and the world. Because of this, the messaging here is all Sanders. Further contrasting Obama, it was rooted in ideology, with Sanders opening, “As a socialist, the word socialism doesn’t frighten me,” before launching into his discussion of self-described socialist regimes. While you could argue the interview might not be a perfect snapshot of today’s presidential candidate’s innermost thoughts, it was a clear statement of what Sanders believed at the time and unfiltered by the degree of drafting and review Obama’s messaging on this topic would have undergone....

From this brief look, we can see that Obama’s talk involved a little flattery, a little spin, and a good deal of appealing to an audience that he saw as future leaders. In contrast, Sanders’ words were simply praise without an intentional objective towards a defined audience. Conflating these two discussions is flimsy, misleading, and indicative of the pro-regime propaganda captured in Sanders’ own sentiment.
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Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
29. This talking point being used by sanders supporters is simply false
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:06 AM
Feb 2020
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George II

(67,782 posts)
21. One sentence is "TLDR"?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:59 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
30. you can always count on @JoeBiden to defend @BarackObama 's record and legacy.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:06 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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George II

(67,782 posts)
34. As well he should. Not many others, including some Democrats, don't do so enough.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 10:08 AM
Feb 2020
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mcar

(42,334 posts)
24. I sure hope this is covered in tomorrow's debate
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:17 PM
Feb 2020

Time for Sanders to get some real debate vetting.

I, and thousands of other Democrats here in Florida, are busting our butts to get Democrats elected/re-elected. We really do not need this shite.

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
26. the problem is once you drill down below leadership these arguments fall apart.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:22 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
33. Taddeo upset the jackass Jose Felix Diaz three years ago
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:21 AM
Feb 2020

Very high profile race here in Miami. She knows darn well that if Sanders is the nominee then all of those local races will flip back to the GOP, including House races like FL-26 which we narrowly yanked away in 2018

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Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
37. Havana gives front-page coverage to Bernie Sanders for praising Fidel Castro
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 04:48 PM
Feb 2020



Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders views on the Cuban revolution have earned him a storm of criticism in the U.S. But there’s one place where his comments have received glowing, front-page reviews: Cuba.

Granma, the Communist Party newspaper, prominently displayed a report about Sanders and his praise of “some of the social programs implemented by the historic leader of the Cuban Revolution Fidel Castro.”

“U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders, today one of the strongest candidates for the nomination of the Democratic Party to the November presidential elections, recognized Cuba’s role in sending doctors worldwide,” Granma said.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article240626672.html#storylink=cpy
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Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
39. Two things happened today including Cuba endorsing sanders
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 08:51 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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