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JT45242

(2,278 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:51 PM Feb 2020

Math lesson about Nevada results lesss than 2% turnout total

Since the complete results aren't in, I'll round up a little.

Sanders = 6,600
Biden = 3,000
Buttigieg = 2,000
Warren = 1,400

So a total of about 13,000 votes were cast in this caucus out of a total of 698,044 registered Democrats in Nevada (https://www.nvsos.gov/sos/home/showdocument?id=8344). So, voter turnout (assuming no republican cross over) was 1.9%.

So, Bernie who clearly energized the voters of Nevada got 0.945% of eligible Democrats to vote for him in the caucus. Yeah that sounds promising.

Let's pump the brakes here...

This again shows that caucuses drive down turnout from a traditional primary where people can vote when it is convenient around their work and life schedules.

Another tiny state (1.8 million registered voters total) going early having an overly large influence on fundraising and perception.


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Math lesson about Nevada results lesss than 2% turnout total (Original Post) JT45242 Feb 2020 OP
LOL Um, you seem to think only 13,000 people voted LOL bluewater Feb 2020 #1
And this is at least the 4th such post. Where's the critical thinking? Garrett78 Feb 2020 #24
Are they really "confusing" anything. bluewater Feb 2020 #26
you left out 70,000 early voters nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #2
How does this figure with 74,000 early voters in Nevada? I'm not... LAS14 Feb 2020 #3
Delete this. You are so so so wrong. squirecam Feb 2020 #4
You are correct. But 100K out of 600K active Democrats is still pathetic. pnwmom Feb 2020 #13
Perhaps squirecam Feb 2020 #17
And it's still up from 2016 Downtown Hound Feb 2020 #22
According to your link the total votes so far are 95,628 at 96% Moderateguy Feb 2020 #20
Now use actual vote totals (you are using delegates) Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #5
Huh? What are you talking about? Are you KPN Feb 2020 #6
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #7
Someone on another site explained it this way Warpy Feb 2020 #8
no one has bragging rights with such an anemic turnout samnsara Feb 2020 #9
Do yourself a favor, don't believe everything you read on the internet. Downtown Hound Feb 2020 #10
But 100K out of 600K active Democratic voters is still anemic. And Bernie only got half of that, pnwmom Feb 2020 #16
Bernie got 1/3 of the vote. squirecam Feb 2020 #19
It's up from 2016, which was 84,000 Downtown Hound Feb 2020 #21
How much of that increased turnout TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #27
Those are SDE, not actual votes. The way this is being reported is confusing..... George II Feb 2020 #11
MSNBC and the other networks squirecam Feb 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author LizBeth Feb 2020 #12
High voter turn out... jmg257 Feb 2020 #14
And, now for some not totally made up numbers: Downtown Hound Feb 2020 #18
Per Jon Ralston. 2008-118K. 2016-84K. 2020-100K. Midnight Writer Feb 2020 #23
I figured as much. Nt BootinUp Feb 2020 #25
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
1. LOL Um, you seem to think only 13,000 people voted LOL
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:52 PM
Feb 2020


Um, that 13,000 were the county delegate totals, not the actual votes cast.

For God's sake, 70,000 people voted in the early voting alone in Nevada!

Now be honest, was this really a "mistake"?

Oh, Welcome to DU.



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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
24. And this is at least the 4th such post. Where's the critical thinking?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 04:22 PM
Feb 2020

Reports of 70,000+ voting early. Reports of Sanders winning easily. Math lesson, indeed.

Yet people still confuse county convention delegates with votes.

Bernie Derangement Syndrome is really screwing with people's heads.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
26. Are they really "confusing" anything.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:15 PM
Feb 2020
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Fiendish Thingy

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2. you left out 70,000 early voters nt
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:52 PM
Feb 2020
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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
3. How does this figure with 74,000 early voters in Nevada? I'm not...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:52 PM
Feb 2020

... questioning your stats. I've seen them too. But we've all heard the 74,000 figure as well. Right?

Oh. See reply #4. This is delegates vs voters.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
4. Delete this. You are so so so wrong.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:52 PM
Feb 2020

The numbers you are citing are the county delegates. Not the votes.

Bernie got 33-34% of the vote.

People keep posting this same stuff. IT IS WRONG. If you want the actual votes, you need to click on first vote, not the county delegates.

I’ve seen too many posts here reciting this same misinformation.


https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/state/nevada?xid=ec_crm_nv_d

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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
13. You are correct. But 100K out of 600K active Democrats is still pathetic.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:07 PM
Feb 2020

And the cause is the caucus structure. People either had to stand in line for hours for early voting or caucus for hours on Saturday.

Only the most fervent voters got involved.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
17. Perhaps
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:10 PM
Feb 2020

But people shouldn’t be giving “math lessons” when they can’t get the facts straight.

And turnout will be better than 2016 levels.

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Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
22. And it's still up from 2016
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:18 PM
Feb 2020

Somehow I doubt you were this concerned then, when Hillary Clinton won.

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Moderateguy

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20. According to your link the total votes so far are 95,628 at 96%
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:12 PM
Feb 2020

So approx estimate is 99,669 total votes cast. So if there are 698,044 democratic voters in Nevada approx. 14% of the democratic electorate voted

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Hassin Bin Sober

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5. Now use actual vote totals (you are using delegates)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:53 PM
Feb 2020
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KPN

(15,646 posts)
6. Huh? What are you talking about? Are you
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:58 PM
Feb 2020

trying to spread totally fallacious information to help swift boat Sanders?

We are better than that here.

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Warpy

(111,267 posts)
8. Someone on another site explained it this way
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:59 PM
Feb 2020

Nevadans have an ornery streak a mile wide and will pretty consistently vote for whomever they thing will piss off the east coast party wonks who think their state is nothing but the Las Vegas strip and desert. Also, they vastly prefer old coots.

It's why they voted for a dead guy for Congress in 2018.

I don't think the turnout is indicative of anything except people preferring to spend Sunday a different way, pancaked on the couch in front of the TV foremost among them.

These early states are never bellwether states. They're all odd in different ways.

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samnsara

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9. no one has bragging rights with such an anemic turnout
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:00 PM
Feb 2020
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Downtown Hound

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10. Do yourself a favor, don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:01 PM
Feb 2020
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pnwmom

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16. But 100K out of 600K active Democratic voters is still anemic. And Bernie only got half of that,
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:10 PM
Feb 2020

so less than 10% of active Democrats voted for him. Less than 20% made the effort to vote at all. (It was a very significant effort required, even with the early voting -- many people had long waits in line to vote.)

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
19. Bernie got 1/3 of the vote.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:12 PM
Feb 2020

Approximately 34,000 out of approximately 100k.

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Downtown Hound

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21. It's up from 2016, which was 84,000
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:15 PM
Feb 2020

So to sum up, turnout has been up in every state so far over 2016, with New Hampshire achieving record turout, and Bernie has dominated in all three states, leads most criticals state polls and head to head match ups with Trump, and you still want to try and pretend that his support is anemic.

Um, go ahead. The rest of us will concentrate on winning.

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TexasTowelie

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27. How much of that increased turnout
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:22 PM
Feb 2020

is due to Republicans crossing over to the Democratic primaries and caucuses?

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George II

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11. Those are SDE, not actual votes. The way this is being reported is confusing.....
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:03 PM
Feb 2020

....there were a lot more votes cast, although it wasn't the groundswell people like to claim.

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squirecam

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15. MSNBC and the other networks
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:08 PM
Feb 2020

Have done a poor job.

But that DU posters are going along with the misinformation is worse.

Do NOT report the county delegates. Look at the first votes and you see Bernie got approminstely 33,000 to 34,000 out of 100k or so.

There were not 13k total votes in Nevada people.....

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jmg257

(11,996 posts)
14. High voter turn out...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:08 PM
Feb 2020
While final numbers have yet to be released, preliminary turnout figures for the Nevada caucuses suggest voter enthusiasm is high in the state — and that Democrats concerned about the lack of record-breaking turnout in Iowa’s contest may have little to fear.
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Downtown Hound

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18. And, now for some not totally made up numbers:
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:10 PM
Feb 2020

Turnout was about 100,000, up from 84,000 in 2016.



https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/nevada-results-2020-live-updates.html

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Midnight Writer

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23. Per Jon Ralston. 2008-118K. 2016-84K. 2020-100K.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 04:19 PM
Feb 2020
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BootinUp

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25. I figured as much. Nt
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 04:23 PM
Feb 2020
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