"A woman enjoys intercourse with her man -- as she fantasizes being raped by 3 men simultaneously."

[showblue22]

Women in suburbs will care less about Bernie's explanation for this. Get ready for Trump to re-enact this stuff at his rallies.

Link to tweet

[hlthe2b]

1. Ugggh...

[Hassin Bin Sober]

19. can't you show a little collegiality and a lot less snark?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

28. I assume that's a rhetorical question.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[NurseJackie]

29. Oh, honey! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

[hlthe2b]

41. Most of us do not feel it necessary to make light of RAPE. Perhaps you might rethink.

I can think of many many things one might choose to use to defend Bernie as your favored candidate. This is not the one I would have thought you (or anyone) would have chosen. Sometimes it might be best to ignore and move on.

[greatauntoftriplets]

66. No.

It's disgusting and nothing to make light of.

[LanternWaste]

73. Ten bucks say you fail to see the irony in your having asked that.

[ehrnst]

125. I see your ten, and raise you 20.

[Cha]

105. What are you even talking about?

[ehrnst]

122. Rly?

[apcalc]

2. NEVER

[bluewater]

3. After 50 Shades of Gray, discussing such fantasies has gone main stream.

The times are what the times are.

And it's not 1972 any longer.

[mopinko]

6. yeah, my first thoughts, too.

is this a winner or a loser. i cant tell.

[JudyM]

8. LOL!

Nothing funny about violence but he doesn’t seem to be promoting it.

[LakeArenal]

59. Seems like a winner for trump supporters

[showblue22]

10. I don't know...

Do women want a 50 shades of grey president? Trump lost women in the suburbs with his crap.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. The 50 Shades stuff was consensual.

[Blaukraut]

16. Sexual fantasies are consensual, too, as they only involve one REAL person

It's not like you're arguing with yourself before you fantasize.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. I don't think it's a burning issue.

That being said the fantasy involves the actors in it being forced to do things against their will. It's also not strictly his fantasy. It's his fantasy of her her fantasy.

Weird.

[Big Blue Marble]

33. Do you get the irony of what you are saying?

This is a man imagining the rape fantasy of a woman.

[tavernier]

93. That's what struck me.

Talking with girlfriends over the years. we do occasionally fantasize sex with more than one partner, as men do, but I’ve never heard anyone mention rape being in the equation. That’s kind of creepy to hear a guy saying that, even creepier if he believes it.

[Vivienne235729]

74. Even in s&m, it is consensual. Rape is NEVER consensual and should never be normalized.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

4. Just sauce for the goose

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Old news.

That being said if I had aberrant fantasies like that I would keep them to myself and not publish them.

[showblue22]

9. There are many people who have not seen this stuff.

It's old news to us but not to women in the suburbs.

[Bluepinky]

21. I'm a woman in the suburbs, and I don't know what point you're trying to prove.

I’m more offended by a serial sexual abuser who has spoken about “grabbing women by the pussy” than someone’s sexual fantasy of 48 years ago.

I guess it’s good you’re doing Putin’s and Trump’s work for them, because if this stuff is out there, Bernie will need to respond to it. I’m concerned, though, Democrats are putting out crap like this with so much glee.

[showblue22]

25. Trump will likely read Bernie's essays at his rallies.

Voters should take this into consideration when they go vote. It's a primary.

[Bluepinky]

37. OK, good luck finding a perfect candidate.

Not sure what’s so scary about Bernie, but I thought this forum is to support Democrats and Democratic Socialists. If Democrats want to only vote for an unblemished candidate with nothing uncontroversial in his or her background, we’ll end up again with.....Trump.

[Loki Liesmith]

55. I am not here to support Democratic Socialists

I’ll pull the lever for this one if I’m left no choice but I don’t support him except as a Trump removal tool.

[SilasSouleII]

124. +1

Eom

[dsc]

57. I am positive that Pete never wrote anything remotely like that about any woman

at any time.

[Bluepinky]

70. Funny. I wouldn't disparage any Democratic candidate

and it’s odd that some people do. Why would Democrats do Putin’s and Trump’s work for them? As I said, there’s no perfect candidate, and you’re not going to get me to sling dirt on any of them.

[jpljr77]

84. WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT DONALD TRUMP WILL DO?!?!

Jesus Christ, do you think of how Donald Trump will react to the smell when you take a crap?

My point is, why let that asshole dictate your behavior? You're giving him the ONLY thing he wants.

[Moderateguy]

80. Would you like to wait for Trump to put out this in a GE?

[Bluepinky]

81. I guess I won't have to, because it has been repeatedly pointed out on DU.

[Moderateguy]

82. DU is not the whole of America..

[Bluepinky]

89. Oh, I thought it was.

[GemDigger]

100. "I guess it's good you're doing Putin's and Trump's work for them"

Uncalled for.

[ms liberty]

48. What do you mean by "us"? You've been here about five minutes

At least as 'showblue22' anyway. So, who were you before?

[showblue22]

49. Us politicos

Not talking about this website.

[tonedevil]

7. Dear Penthouse...

I never thought I would be writing this...

[berni_mccoy]

12. Anita Hill

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/25/us/politics/joe-biden-anita-hill.html

[showblue22]

13. Whataboutism is all you have?

[berni_mccoy]

15. The OP is just as ridiculous

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. Good reminder... lot more serious IMHO!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[HarlanPepper]

40. The fixation on Biden by Sanders supporters at this stage is fascinating.

[berni_mccoy]

46. It's actually the inverse, but whatever.

[Cornus]

96. You've got that backwards.

It is so obvious in so many of the posts made by Biden supporters.

[HarlanPepper]

97. But I thought he was done?

It's been said here over and over that this is Bernie's race to lose. Why the interest in someone that poses no threat to the movement?

[Cha]

106. Any comment on the OP.. what BS wrote?

[berni_mccoy]

107. I already gave it

[emmaverybo]

127. Really? He voted against Thomas. Was not a part of Republican gang who accused her of being

pathological, and so far, nothing lewd or offensive that he has said or written, certainly nothing but praise for Hill.

[nilram]

14. They'll make a big deal of it for Bernie. If only he

was a pussy grabber. Then it would be OK.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

35. LMAO!! Good one!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[redqueen]

86. It's apparently ok for Bloomberg too.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287569662

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

18. As a woman

I find this disgusting beyond words. And, no, I had never heard this before.

[Tipperary]

22. And you know they cannot wait to spread this everywhere.

Not going to be pretty.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

23. This will NOT play well in the suburbs in Pennsylvania

especially around Pittsburgh (more conservative than Philly).

Democrats had made great gains winning the suburbs in PA over the past decade too. Sad.

[Cha]

117. Agree.. can't spin this.

[NYMinute]

20. K&R nt

[LizBeth]

24. "A woman on her knees, a woman tied up, a woman abused".

Sanders man's fantasy is not any better.

[showblue22]

30. It's horrible.

and.. there is more out there. He talked about young girls ( NOT BOYS), just out of puberty ignoring their mothers advice and have sex with their boyfriends as a way to prevent cancer. Was he saying girls (not boys) being prude in their youth was the cause of cancer?

[LizBeth]

32. Right. Give it up to the boys to avoid cancer. Lol. And he was a grown adult.

[LizBeth]

63. There was another comment about sexist slur woman teachers being the blame for young boys

failing in school. This man was in his 30's and certainly doesn't show a respect for women.

[mzmolly]

27. He's a bad writa'

[LuvNewcastle]

129. Yes, that's my biggest problem with it.

It's like a very poorly written play. At least Trump has a little imagination. It takes some imagination to be able to lie like he does.

[mzmolly]

132. Lol

True!

[Skya Rhen]

31. Trump has no shame and will pummel Bernie with this every single minute during the GE.

This can't be explained away by Bernie. He will not be allowed to be our nominee if he doesn't go into the convention with a majority of delegates. Period.

[Autumn]

36. Have you seen some of the movies out there?

This may give Bernie a boost.

[showblue22]

43. A fantasy about women being gang raped would give him a boost?

Yea right! I doubt the women who voted for us in red states in 2018 will see it the way you do.

[greatauntoftriplets]

71. The wet dream of a commander from The Handmaid's Tale".

No thank you.

[Autumn]

72. No need to say no thanks. I offered you nothing.

[dewsgirl]

104. Indeed, I was afraid to point that out. I'm happy you did, people

are into all kinds of stuff these days.

[redqueen]

38. Welcome to DU nt

[marlakay]

39. Well it probably will get him more votes with men

And women are going to think 70’s really? That’s almost 50 yrs ago!

I have fantasies about smashing my hubbies face during a argument, would I ever do it? No!

[showblue22]

44. Women who were already plugging their nose

reluctantly voting for Bernie against Trump is who this will have the biggest effect on.

[marlakay]

76. Well look at what Trump has done

Not just fantasized about everything from rape to calling us all sorts of names and that is current not in the past.

[IluvPitties]

42. Bernie has some twisted fantasies for sure!

[mzmolly]

47. Indeed. All violent

it seems?

[greatauntoftriplets]

69. And against women.

[pistdem]

45. It is better

for every bad thing about Bernie to come-out now, than to have Trump bring it up in the general election. People will have to decide if this stuff from his past is a deal-breaker, for them. This is just the tip-of-the-iceberg, I think and more is coming.

[Duppers]

116. A fantasy as compared to shitgibbon's REAL life?

I'd say we have no worries due to the tons of real sleazy we have to throw at treasonous p.o.s.

But shame on Bernie. I'm more than disappointed.

[aikoaiko]

50. This comes from an essay on men and women feeling desperate about their empty, gendered lives

Even NPR gets it.
https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/29/410606045/the-bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-explained

I'm not sure why so many DUers don't.

[joethedrummer]

67. "Nobody honestly believes that Bernie Sanders is a sexual pervert or that he is a misogynist

...or that he intends to do women any harm. Nobody suspects that he harbors a secret desire to pass intrusive legislation or to cut gang rapists a break. Really, there is only one reason that anyone would make hay of this story, and that is to damage the man politically."

[TDale313]

83. Exactly.

I read the whole thing years ago when this first became an issue. It was pretty clearly “Gender stereotypes fuck us all up”

[ms liberty]

111. This. n/t

[Politicub]

51. Bernie's columns from that time were all weird.

The Atlantic or something published his essays. It’s like reading Hunter Thompson on an acid trip.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

52. "I got an idea! Let's stop and frisk innocent people of color just because they aren't white!"

[showblue22]

58. Whataboutism

[Cuthbert Allgood]

62. I'd rather vote for a bad fiction writer than a racist.

YMMV

[ehrnst]

119. You don't have to vote for either. There are other progressive options.

You're welcome!

[ehrnst]

123. "When you're white ... you don't know what it's like to be poor."

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/mar/07/bernie-sanders/bernie-sanders-wrong-say-when-youre-white-you-dont/

[Cuthbert Allgood]

53. "I voted for the Iraq war."

[showblue22]

60. Whataboutism

[Cuthbert Allgood]

61. Just making sure we know what's going to be said about everyone

Some seem to want to act like Sanders is the only one the Republicans have a book on. He's not.

And if this crap from the 70s is the best they have, then that's awesome.

[ehrnst]

120. So anything from that time period is too far in the past to be relevant to discuss?

[Cha]

109. Any comment on the OP.. what BS wrote?

[ehrnst]

121. Some people voted for military intervention in Iraq twice...

In 1998 Sanders voted in favor of the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, which said: "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

Later that same year, Sanders also backed a resolution that stated: "Congress reaffirms that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."


Sanders also voted for the 2001 Authorization Unilateral Military Force Against Terrorists (AUMF), which pretty much allowed Bush to wage war wherever he wanted.

Authorization for Use of Military Force - Authorizes the President to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons.

States that this Act is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of the War Powers Resolution.

[emmaverybo]

128. That vote, for the first gulf war, was less understandable.

[JustAnotherGen]

54. Ewwww

I really hope Trump does NOT re-enact this at rallies!

[JFlash]

56. Yes I think Trump is the perfect person to exploit that

He has so much credibility to do that too, since he's been an actual real rapist before.

[LakeArenal]

65. Gee, and Joe gave hugs.

I love how he spelled out my fantasies for me!!!But why stop at three men????

[LexVegas]

68. Creepy. nt

[Downtown Hound]

75. Lot of people have fantasies like this, sorry to break it to you.

It doesn't mean you support violence against women or think sexual assault is really okay.

As a former computer repair technician, let's just say I good look at what's on a lot of people's hard drives and their internet search histories. If you were going to pick a president who had a clean slate in this regard there would be very few people left.

[MineralMan]

85. And, you know that how, exactly?

[Downtown Hound]

87. I believe I explained that.

Oh yeah, I'm also into BDSM. There you go.

[Sapient Donkey]

131. I know at least two women who have told me they have fantasies like that.

Obviously, they don't want to actually be raped, but for some reason that fantasy scenario worked for them. I don't personally understand it or know how common they are, but they seem common enough that in my small circle of friends two of them decided to tell me such things unsolicited. Might speak more to the weird friends I keep, though.

I don't judge people for theirs kinks so long as it's all consensual and no one is hurt (too bad)

[LaurenOlimina]

77. He's running against a man who brags about assault.

I'm just saying...

[redqueen]

88. Bloomberg is going after Bernie first

And he has these kind of skeletons in his closet

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287569662

[LaurenOlimina]

90. weee...

[LizBeth]

92. Lets elect a woman. Then we do not have to hear about Sanders fantasies or Bloomberg's skeletons.

[ehrnst]

130. +100000.

[onecaliberal]

78. This needs a trigger warning!!

[David__77]

79. so what

...

[Sunsky]

91. Say what now?

Disgusting

[Lunabell]

94. Holy shit! Not S&M!

Well, hold me down and fuck the hell out of me. Jesus H. Christ.And don't even think of bringing out the riding crop.

[melman]

95. Seems like all the big scary Bernie oppo is nothing but the same old bullshit.

[trueblue2007]

98. horrible, just horrible. i HATE THIS LANGUAGE !!!! Makes me sick to my stomach.

[trueblue2007]

99. Weinstein guilty

Weinstein guilty
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/24/nyregion/harvey-weinstein-verdict.html


Harvey Weinstein, the powerhouse film producer whose downfall over sexual misconduct ignited a global movement, was found guilty on Monday of a felony sex crime and rape after a trial in which six women testified that he had sexually assaulted them.

But the jury acquitted Mr. Weinstein of the two top charges against him, predatory sexual assault.

The verdict offered a measure of justice to the dozens of women who had come forward with similar allegations against Mr. Weinstein. For many, the trial was a watershed moment for the #MeToo movement and a crucial test in the effort to hold powerful men accountable for sexual harassment in the workplace.

[Me.]

102. Bit By Bit

Oppo

[Fresh_Start]

103. he's an idiot who doesn't really have a clue about women, not disqualifying....

this one doesn't bother me as much as his embrace of garbage science.

[OliverQ]

108. This came out in 2016.

If Trump can get away with bragging about sexually assaulting women with no consequences, I'm not going to entirely reject a candidate because they made crude comments in the 1970s.

[Cha]

110. So? And, here we are again.. hasn't gotten any better.

[thesquanderer]

112. It's a "clickbait" preface to an article he wrote about gender roles.

It's not presented as porn, or his personal fantasies, or anything of the sort. It was just an attempt at an attention grabbing opening to a fundamentally boring article. It's really nothing. I mean, have you ever even seen the original doc it comes from?

[Cha]

113. Didn't think it was.. it's still gross.

[LizBeth]

114. Our Democratic candidate simply has to do better than Trump's sexual assaults?

[OliverQ]

115. Yes, because purity contests means Dems lose.

There is no candidate in the race that isn't going to have some horrible dirt come out on them.

[IluvPitties]

133. Show me something as disgusting as this from Biden or Warren.

[highplainsdem]

118. K&R. Dems need to consider embarrassments like this now. The GOP won't overlook them later.

[stonecutter357]

126. gross .