"I don't think he can beat Donald Trump and get a Democratic Senate and keep a Democratic House"

[brooklynite]

Joe Biden on MSNBC (KC DC) last night.

[apcalc]

1. I agree , Joe. We need to coalesce around a good Democrat like you NOW.

[zackymilly]

2. Lol I just signed in to ask you what a hood Democrat was, but you changed it. n/t

[Paka]

8. He's entitled to his opinion.

Just like everyone! I chose to disagree.

[apcalc]

11. Lol! Yeah, I saw that too!!! Ah, typing- my fingers are too big!

[Magoo48]

10. What else could he say?

[Boomer]

24. It's not happening.

If people don't vote for Biden, then he's simply not the uniting figure you'd like him to be. Wishing really hard doesn't make it so.

My top choice isn't winning either. I can get over it. Can you?

[apcalc]

29. Yes, have already gotten over my top choice.

Time to coalesce imo.

[Boomer]

35. We ARE coalescing

Around Sanders.

[apcalc]

37. Hmmmmm

[marble falls]

46. No. We aren't, not yet.

[Cha]

3. KR.. Thank you, Joe Biden!

I just posted this in another thread.. BS didn't think we could win the Blue Wave 2018.. but we Did.. With Moderates in Swing Districts.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) thinks there is reason to doubt the predicted "blue wave" in next month'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211306674

[58Sunliner]

54. This needs to be it's own post-BS thinks only he can fix it IMO.

Even if it's a repost.

[Cha]

58. Maybe I'll will later when I have time..

Thank you!

[still_one]

4. It is his honest opinion. I happen to agree with it, but by the current trend among

Democrats, it appears a lot don’t share that view

[empedocles]

5. The 'current trend' or 24 hour news cycles, has not had a realistic

primary to be informed of yet. Just frenzied 'breaking news' huffpuffery.

[still_one]

6. I whole heartily agree, and would love nothing more than those pundits to have egg all

over their face by spewing the nonsense that the primaries are essentially over based on having only after two caucuses, and one primary that have been run

[Cha]

9. Snap!

[apcalc]

12. +1

[dlk]

7. Joe is absolutely right

[livetohike]

13. I agree. Here in Pennsyltuckey we will lose the Independents

We don’t vote until April 28. It may be decided by then, but if Sanders is the nominee in November, we won’t take PA.

[brutus smith]

18. The moderate Hillary Clinton won Pennsylvania in 2016. Ooops, no she didn't.

But running someone just like Hillary will change things. (sarcasm)

[Boomer]

27. Exactly

This worship of "moderate" Dems is hurting the party, not helping it.

[apcalc]

31. Hacked. Stolen.

Oh btw, the didn’t wan’t ‘ librul Hillry’.
Tain’t gonna go fur that commie neither.

[MisterFred]

47. Uh... that's a reason to think Biden would lose there too.

It's not like he won't be called a liberal.

[DaDeacon]

56. That commie ?!?!

Come on mate, even as a joke we are better than that. If you are trying to be a voice of the "the other guy" do you honestly think ANY Democratic doesn't get that treatment??! It starting to reminding me of the old "passers" in the segregation days. Moderate and the far left are the same thing to those who would say that. Don't deceive yourself the battleground is the disaffected voters and purple voters who just want a new method. The New left is the old left. Labor, over owners. People, over bureaucrats. Progress, over status quo.

[Botany]

50. Exit polls had Hillary winning Pennsylvania easily

Along with Wisconsin, Michigan, North Carolina, and Florida too.

[Cha]

60. Did you read the Democratic Platform?

Hillary is not a moderate.. she's the one who got 66 Million Votes but Russia wanted trump..

And, jill stein Lies about Hillary and trump helped Russia rig him in.

[ramen]

21. Some data for you:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_sanders-6862.html

[livetohike]

42. The polls had Hillary over Trump in PA at this time in

the 2016 cycle.

[ramen]

51. They did. Is your argument we should never look at poll data again because of that failure?

It's all we have except for anecdotal evidence, the mileage of which is highly variable.

[livetohike]

52. I don't have an argument. I don't even have a candidate.

My point is only that something happened at this same time in the cycle and Hillary’s lead in the polls evaporated. It’s too soon to count on any polls, but living here in one of the reddest areas of PA (and a poll worker since 2007), this is going to be an ugly election. They fly Confederate flags here and signs the size of small billboards all for Trump.If the woods and solitude weren’t so beautiful, I would move.

[ramen]

57. Those shenanigans happen here in rural New Hampshire, too, it baffles me

how such beautiful places can still have such ugliness from people. Confederate flags and Trump stickers here just blow my mind.

Hopefully the polling is more accurate this time than last.

[USALiberal]

40. LOL, ok! Nt

[ebbie15644]

55. yes, I agree

[Cha]

61. Thanks, livetohike..

[zentrum]

14. I do.

[Cha]

15. I don't

[safeinOhio]

16. I wouldn't think so either, but

I never thought Tramp had a chance in the world to beat Hillary.

[brutus smith]

19. If he beat Hillary, don't you think he would beat someone just like her?

[safeinOhio]

25. Just like that, I have no idea, logic has gone out the window.

I've got a couple of weeks to decide before I vote in Michigan. I like Warren best, but trying to figure out who has the best chance. Here in mid-Michigan a lot of folks just couldn't vote for Hillary and left it blank. Those same people told me they would have voted for BS. I'd guess he will do well here. I just don't know.
I will vote for anyone that wins the Democratic nomination with gusto. In the mean time, I sending money to groups that are working to elect Democratic Senate and House candidates.

[olegramps]

26. She was caught is a crossfire between Sanders and Trump on tariffs and trade agreements.

If Sanders is our nominee he will be subjected to a scathing denunciation of his statements providing praise for brutal regimes such as that of Fidel Castro. While he applauded their utopian objectives he was silent in his condemnation of the methods of everyone of these regimes use of brutal methods to shut down any objections. These included jailing or outright murder of opponents and especially silencing of the media. Of course Trump wants Sanders as his opponent. He will be able to tear him to shreds as the supporter of vicious communistic regimes. How ironic can it get when Trump welcomes the help of a vicious Russian dictator to destroy a socialist opponent with his endorsement.

[safeinOhio]

30. When ever a Publican calls anyone a Socialist. I tell them

I'm a Democratic Socialist, what kind of Fascist are you. Never got an answer. That's the question that will destroy that attack. Get them to deny the facts of Fascism.

[democrattotheend]

45. Same

Also, there's something to be said for the fact that Bernie is drawing bigger crowds and more enthusiasm than anyone else by a long shot. I know rally size isn't always correlated to electoral success, but it can be an indicator. Obama had the biggest crowds on either side in 2008, and I think Trump did in 2016.

[blue-wave]

17. Once again

I think Joe is right.

[samnsara]

20. since I have sworn off all news but local..who was he referring to?

[MisterFred]

48. Sanders, the current front-runner for the nomination. nt

[ramen]

22. Biden is saying he thinks he can?

I highly doubt that. Or rather, I haven't seen any data to back that claim up.

[gab13by13]

23. If Bernie wins

that means that the turnout will be huge all but guaranteeing a blue Senate and House.

[rzemanfl]

32. Profiles in Dreaming. Chapt.1. n/t

[NurseJackie]

28. He's absolutely correct!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287570879

Even when Bernie runs on the Democratic ticket, he attacks the party. That doesn’t exactly endear him to committed party members – especially in today’s political environment, when being a united party is key. By stating that “the Democratic establishment AND the Republican establishment can’t stop him”, he is being extremely divisive by putting himself out as someone who is actually running against BOTH parties, and not as someone who is running FOR the party that he is supposedly running on behalf of.

[no_hypocrisy]

33. Well sure, it would be a self-fulfilling prophecy

by the hands Of Democrats.

1. Stay home and don't vote.
2. Vote for President but don't vote for democratic representatives and senators.

Voter suppression won't sink our ship. We'll do it ourselves.

[Cosmocat]

39. Democrats WILL vote for him

lets not project the inverse if it does not work out for him onto everyone else.

99.5% of the people who have concerns about him will vote for him a heartbeat.

What we are seeing is the reality that once the Rs and their mainstream media buddies to into a SOCIALISM palooza it will destroy any support from the mushy middle that is not comfortable with the blooming dictator to either not vote or vote for the blooming dictator AND go R down ballot.

I will vote for him knowing it will be a Titanic moment ... the US slipping into the icy waters after hitting the glacier.

[Tom Rinaldo]

34. Spoken by an objective observer no doubt

It's a reasonable argument to make and it makes sense for Biden to make it. In more normal times the logic behind it is very solid. These just aren't those times though. They weren't in 2016 and it's shaping up that way for 2020 also. The electoral map changes every time any variable is altered. No doubt some seats could be lost with Sanders heading our ticket that might be won with Biden heading it, but the converse can also be true. What happens to our national campaigns when fear of Trump of course remains a voter motivator, but strong enthusiasm for our candidates comes up short? Voter enthusiasm has always been a key election metric. Fear of Trump will be a motivator whoever our nominee is.

[PatrickforO]

44. You're right there. The giant tax cut in 2017 for billionaire parasites

was too much for me.

Business as usual is out the door. We need substantial progress forward on healthcare, on climate change, on student debt, on reforming the tax policy so the rich pay their share for this civilization, and we need to overturn Citizens United, close a bunch of revolving doors and reform campaign finance.

For those goals, I must confess much more confidence in Bernie or Elizabeth than in Joe or Pete or Amy.

[OneBro]

36. Bernie will rely on his coattails.

Bernie will rely on his coattails to take the Senate and to keep the House. Of course, his coattails expressly flip off the Democratic establishment and the Republican establishment, so any down ballot candidates will need to be, um, non-establishment if they want in on the Bernie carpool to D.C.

[brooklynite]

53. An F-35 would get them to Washington faster...

[mcar]

38. He can't

[subana]

41. exactly!

until last Saturday, I thought all dems were in agreement that this was the main goal!

[PatrickforO]

43. His opinion.

Apparently not shared by a majority of the electorate thus far in the primaries.

[cannabis_flower]

49. I don't think

Joe can either. And I don't think Joe can win.

[Cha]

59. Kick