Obama promised change -- he won. Trump promised change -- he won. Bernie promises change --

[Kablooie]

??

It actually sound like Bernie may have a good chance to win if you follow this line of reasoning.

[Garrett78]

1. Neither Obama nor Trump were running against an incumbent. That said...

...I do think there's a strong tendency in today's political climate to want major fundamental change, as I touched on in a reply in your other thread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=571514. Being an outsider or being perceived as one seems to carry a lot of weight.

[Skidmore]

2. The nation has learned

that all changes are not equal. Promising something and being able to deliver are quite different anim as ls.

[James48]

3. So....push for change.

We need Sanders.
We need the House.
We need the Senate, and we need to NOT have “ 2/3rd rules” for everything in the Senate, so that we can pass some real change.

[CalFione]

9. your first sentence invalidates the rest of your post

With Sanders as the nominee, we lose the House and the Senate.

[pnwmom]

4. What Democratic candidate isn't promising change? That hardly sets Bernie apart. n/t

[NanceGreggs]

5. It's not a 'line of reasoning' at all.

All candidates promise change. When was the last time you heard someone run on the idea of "vote for me, and I promise I won't change anything"?

[whathehell]

6. Well,

maybe it depends on the audience -- Joe Biden did tell Wall St. "nothing will fundamentally change".

https://www.salon.com/2019/06/19/joe-biden-to-rich-donors-nothing-would-fundamentally-change-if-hes-elected/

[NanceGreggs]

7. Is that the same as saying ...

... to every voter "nothing will change" across the board?

Don't think so.

[whathehell]

10. Lol..

I'd say that depends on how well your financially situated

[NanceGreggs]

11. Not really.

Even those who are financially well-off want change - like MORE tax-cuts for themselves.

[whathehell]

13. Now you're just playing with words..

Obviously, the type of change matters. Reassuring Wall St like that did not go over well with many of us.

[NanceGreggs]

14. And many things other candidates have said ...

... "did not go over well" with many of us.

That's just the way it is.

[whathehell]

15. The candidate challenging Wall St. the most is winning

That's "the way it is".

[bucolic_frolic]

8. That's not reasoning, that's a vague feel good slogan

Every politician promises change. Even all of the losing ones.

[Blue_Tires]

12. FFS Steve Forbes promised "change"....

[TwilightZone]

16. All of our candidates are promising change.

Only one can win. That's kind of how it works.

All of the Republican candidates in 2016 were promising drastic change. Did they all win?

[50 Shades Of Blue]

17. Except Trump's message was irrelevant. Putin ensured his "win" regardless.

[Jose Garcia]

18. John Kerry and Mitt Romney both promised change