OK so let's talk about evidence

[ibegurpard]

I keep hearing the notion that we are going to scare off moderate Republicans if we run someone too far left. Where is the evidence that Republicans will vote for a Democrat? All I hear is anecdotal stories about their Republican friends, neighbors, and acquaintances. Trump has a 90% approval rating among Republicans. If they are telling you otherwise they are lying to you to put a more moderate face on themselves for you...their liberal friends. Trump is the culmination of what Republicans have been running on for decades and is simply less polite about it. The few Republican family members that I speak to that hate him I can promise you only that they MIGHT vote third-party or a write-in. There is NO HARD EVIDENCE anywhere to cause anyone to believe that moderating what Democrats have always been champions for is going to bring any Republicans on board.
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/476978-trump-support-among-republicans-reaches-all-time-high-in-poll

[Garrett78]

1. You're correct. And here's a relevant article about the 2018 midterm:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/10/18076872/trump-46-percent-solition

Back in 2016, Donald Trump got about 46 percent of the vote nationally, 2 percentage points less than Hillary Clinton. But his support was so artfully distributed that he earned the crucial electoral votes of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

Two years later, his party got creamed in elections of the US House of Representatives, losing 35 to 40 seats despite a map whose geography favors the GOP even more strongly than the Electoral College does. It looks like, though, when all the votes from California are in, Republicans will have earned just about 46 percent of the vote nationally — almost exactly the same share as two years ago.

All that diner journalism about how Trump voters still like Trump was, in other words, pretty much on the money (at least in the aggregate). It’s just that it didn’t matter.

There were never enough Trump voters to form a majority of the electorate. And that, more than suburban backlash or anything else, is what did in Republicans on Tuesday. The Trump voters stood by Trump and voted Republican, but this time around, everyone else voted for the Democrats. And the Democrats won.

Whereas in 2016 we had 2 historically unpopular candidates facing off, so 3rd party voting was much higher than normal and a lot of Obama voters across key states simply didn't turn out for Clinton.

[ibegurpard]

2. And the legislative record of the past 3 years?

Where are the Republicans checking him? We hear stories about how they can't stand him yet look where we are...they are behind his agenda 100 percent.

[uponit7771]

3. Sanders has no historical swing state appeal outside of MOE, Biden has the most. Facts matter

[ibegurpard]

4. do you have something to add related to the post?

[uponit7771]

5. Yes, my post is a restatement of "evidence" that we should be concerned about Sanders or

... anyone else who doesn't have historical swing state appeal outside the MOE.

Come on people, the polling has been there forever ... swing states matter everything else is noise.

[ibegurpard]

6. Republicans will not support a Democrat

No matter who it is. The evidence is in his approval rating with Republicans and their united front on his legislative and judicial agenda.

[Meadowoak]

9. Unless you count Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota or Pennsylvania.

[tirebiter]

7. We only need a few

Just like they just needed a few Democrats last prez election.

[ibegurpard]

8. We need a hell of a lot more than a few

I've seen nothing to indicate anything consequential. Do you have any polls or other evidence to counter the approval rating among Republicans or any evidence that they've actually successfully blocked his agenda anywhere?

[duforsure]

10. putin is behind a lot of this

Disinformation campaigns with tactics used to divide, or make people become disenfranchised or raise doubts, and this likely was just another way to interfere with the election. trump continues to do nothing to stop putin , which should show either how weak he is against russia and putin , or he and putin are working for him to get re-elected from putin helping with cash and hackers again. I also think they are everywhere attempting to divide us, even here on DU.

[ms liberty]

11. An excellent point. n/t

[johnthewoodworker]

12. Racism and hatred/fear of the foreign other drive all of the cat grabbers base.

There will never be movement away from Trump from this group. I am not encouraged to think you have to find a particularly fine candidate to lure independents away from this criminal, nazi turd. If the options are the cat grabber vs. any democratic candidate, and you have to think about it, we are lost as a nation and should just accept that resistance will have to come from outside of a ballot box.

I feel we've already crossed the line from a constitutional republic to an autocratic fascist country.

[Squinch]

13. The 2018 election. Bernie backed people and Our Revolution

candidates were demolished. Moderates kicked ass and turned dozens of red states blue.

That's proof and its recent. It tells us what will win and what will lose.

But sure. Let's pretend there's no proof that BS will lose the GE

[CalFione]

14. The 2018 midterms are the evidence

40 House seats in suburban districts flipped from red to blue in 2018.

39 of them were moderate Democrats.


Leftism doesn’t win.

[Squinch]

15. Jinx.

But no doubt this clear proof will be ignored.

[bucolic_frolic]

16. The HARD EVIDENCE is the Never Trumpers and the 42% polls and 65% for Impeachment

Even Republicans want him held accountable.

[delisen]

17. I thought the Sanders campaign is aimed at capturing former Trump voters

in addition to new voters?