Elizabeth Warren piles on Bloomberg at Denver rally, but avoids criticism of Sanders

[BeckyDem]

U.S. senator hopes to regain ground after struggling in early Democratic contests

Elizabeth Warren and her supporters in Denver rejected the notion Sunday that she should drop out of the crowded Democratic presidential race as she electrified a crowd of thousands with her calls for “big, structural change.”

The U.S. senator from Massachusetts has placed third or fourth in each of the first three states to hold votes, including fourth in Saturday’s Nevada caucus. But she’s been buoyed by positive reaction to her methodical takedown of self-funding billionaire candidate Mike Bloomberg, a former New York City mayor, during Wednesday’s nationally televised debate over his non-disclosure agreements with female employees.

Before one supporter asked Warren a question in the Fillmore Auditorium, she referred to the moment, approvingly, as “the trash-can beating.”

“Women can be tough,” Warren responded.

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/02/23/elizabeth-warren-president-denver/

Warren 2020!!!

[TwilightZone]

1. She can't win if she doesn't stop Sanders.

It's interesting that she seems to believe Bloomberg is a bigger threat. Maybe she knows something we don't.

[blm]

4. Bloomberg was taking votes from Biden who benefits the most

from Warren keying on Bloomberg

[TwilightZone]

6. Maybe I'm missing something, but that doesn't seem to make strategic sense.

Do you mean that she's trying to prop up Biden? If Bloomberg tanks and Biden benefits as you noted, then Warren's chances would seem to be even less likely.

I'm not even sure Biden is a viable threat at this point unless something unexpected happens, like Bloomberg and Steyer dropping out and endorsing him enthusiastically. Maybe not even then. I think it's stop Bernie time if she has any chance.

[denem]

20. It makes every bit of strategic sense.

If Buttigieg led a full on, 'off with his head' assault on Biden, how would he do? Be flooded with grateful votes from former Biden supporters, or would they be looking to go elsewhere? So Sanders people would be in love with Warren if she gutted Bernie, and lining up to vote for her too?

Pissed off with 'moderates' willing Warren to suicide herself, because no one on their side has the taste or the talent to do the job. Pathetic.

Warren will benefit when Bloomberg steps up and takes Sanders apart. No - Sanders supporters won't be flocking to Mike or Joe. That's how it works.

[TwilightZone]

23. No, that still doesn't make any sense.

Warren's only path to the nomination is to stop Sanders. That's it. Piling solely on Bloomberg, whom it would seem she's already fatally wounded, while mostly ignoring Sanders makes no sense. At this point, she needs to give people a reason not to vote for Sanders or it's over for her. That's in contrast to giving people reasons to vote *for* her, because while I personally believe that should have worked and worked well (personally, I have no clue why anyone would pick Sanders over Warren), it's clearly not.

Waiting on Bloomberg to knock Sanders out seems just as silly as the assertion that the moderates are waiting for her to do it. I don't think either of them is realistic. If they want to get back in the race, they need to take responsibility for doing so, not sit around waiting for someone else's dominoes to fall.

[denem]

24. The only reason you ask is no moderate is up to the task.

Mike will get it done - with ads. They same way as he planned to take on Biden.

[counting]

27. she cant attack sanders

the majority of her supporters like sanders, and majority of sanders supporter like warren. Attacking sanders would only push sanders supporters away from her and risk her supporters to back sanders.

[tecelote]

30. +1!

[ehrnst]

33. But he can attack her, and it won't harm him with Warren supporters?

[counting]

34. it would hurt him

thats why he avoids attacking her...i don't see him attacking her on this upcoming debate.

[ehrnst]

36. He's attacked her, and his supporters CERTAINLY have - along with those

who went from supporting Sanders to supporting Warren.

Sanders camp admits anti-Warren script was deployed in multiple early states

Sanders initially attributed the talking points to rogue staffers, and supporters launched an online campaign to convince people the document was fake.

https://time.com/5681261/working-families-party-harassment/

His "both sides are doing this, and I don't support any harassment in general" was a non-admonishment of that harassment.

#WarrenIsASnake is a hashtag his supporters use.

He is the only candidate that has felt a need to remind his supporters, at the beginning of his campaign, to be "respectful" of those who disagree. Clearly many didn't view it as a serious request.

I think he's aware that his supporters will attack whoever disagrees with him. He himself has a history of referring to anyone who does disagree with him in any way as wrong at best, and corrupt at worst, and I think that he attracts - and in some ways emboldens - many with a similar dualistic point of view.

His campaign staffing choices certainly express this POV:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bernie-sanders-staffer-mocked-elizabeth-warrens-looks-pete-buttigiegs-sexuality-on-private-twitter-account

https://theunionjournal.com/hate-filled-bernie-sanders-staffers-and-canvassers-chanted-f-biden-f-warren-f-buttigieg-at-iowa-caucus-eve-party/

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

9. She does!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[brush]

29. She knows by now there is no path for her so are there dreams of the VP slot?

Attacking Bloomberg to be seen doing something when the logical target is
Sanders—h-m-m-m-m-m?

[Baclava]

2. VP Warren has a plan, I trust her

[BeckyDem]

3. I trust her too.

[nsd]

5. VP Warren? VP for whom?

[Baclava]

7. Bernie said he was looking for a woman VP " a couple of years younger than me"

"...somebody who can take the progressive banner as vice president and carry it all over this country to help us with our agenda"

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

10. Makes sense to me...

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[TwilightZone]

8. I don't think she wants to be VP.

She would be more effective in the Senate, especially if we're talking about being VP to Sanders.

[questionseverything]

26. she will think of what we need not what she wants

I have faith in her

[evertonfc]

11. Bloomberg is least of her worries

terrible strategy. She's a state, may be two, away from being irrelevant.

[squirecam]

13. Yep

She refused to discuss Bernie even though directly asked twice.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1231740636660764672

Shane Goldmacher
@ShaneGoldmacher
Here is the video of Warren pivoting from this @jessbidgood
question on whether Bernie Sanders is a risky nominee to talk about Bloomberg.

When another reporter tried to redirect, she was having none of it: "I heard you

[dalton99a]

17. +1. Bloomberg is not an enemy in this election.

[BeyondGeography]

12. Warren has some relatively minor issues with Bernie and they pale in comparison with Bloomberg

So this is not surprising.

[squirecam]

14. Then she has stopped trying to win.

Bloomberg isn’t going to prevent her from being the nominee.

Sanders is.

[TwilightZone]

15. Agreed.

I don't get this strategy at all unless she's either trying to prop up Biden (Bloomberg is taking some of his support) or ensure Sanders wins.

[BeyondGeography]

18. Nonsense...She turned her fundraising around with her demolition of Bloomberg last week

She also got a nice bump in CBS/YouGov today. She has challenges of course but she isn’t going to surmount them by getting out of her comfort zone and prioritizing attacks on Bernie over Bloomberg. That wouldn’t be the right move in SC anyway where going after Mr. Stop-and-Frisk makes a helluva lot more sense than targeting Bernie.

[squirecam]

21. The people who want either Sanders/Warren are happy.

Because they get Sanders.

But if you DONT believe Sanders should be the nominee, then Warren playing his best buddy should bother you. All that does is help him.

[BeyondGeography]

22. She's not playing best buddy, she has been taking shots at him too

If you want to criticize candidates for going light on Bernie you should start with Biden, who only recently seems to realize that someone’s eating his lunch.

[squirecam]

25. Not today.

She refused to discuss Bernie even though directly asked twice.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1231740636660764672

Shane Goldmacher
@ShaneGoldmacher
Here is the video of Warren pivoting from this @jessbidgood
question on whether Bernie Sanders is a risky nominee to talk about Bloomberg.

When another reporter tried to redirect, she was having none of it: "I heard you

[blm]

32. Geez. Get into the arena and strategize away. Find a candidate who

thinks your knowledge and advice is indispensable.

Here the constant yammering against Warren is just coming off as divisive and a little TOO focused on her.

[BeckyDem]

16. Exactly.

She was fighting for her shot at the nomination during the last debate. But most voters should know by now, she was not holding back because Bloomberg is everything she is against.

[CentralMass]

19. She is standing by her principles.

[ALBliberal]

28. Lord please if he wins our party's nomination

Let his vp pick be the smart patriotic Russian resistant Warren.

[Nanjeanne]

35. It's smart. Sanders voters typically have her as second choice but aren't going to

switch to her unless Sanders drops out. But there are lots of Bloomberg votes she could pick up and rise in the polls. Sanders supporters are pretty loyal but between Bloomberg and Pete, Warren has room to gain from their columns.