If a republican changes.his registration to vote in a Democratic primary to vote for

[still_one]

who they view as the weakess candidate, and then changes his registration back to republican in the primaries

Would that be considered "rigging?"

[Desert grandma]

1. You would think so

But I doubt it.

[TwilightZone]

2. Not if it's allowed by the process.

I presume that you meant back to R in the GE, but if the states allow it, I don't think it fits the definition of rigging. If one understands the process going in and the process is followed, it's not really "rigging", regardless of the context.

I get your point, though.

[still_one]

4. Yes, that is what i meant. It seems to me that if someone registers with a

political party they should not be allowed to change that registration for a certain period, to minimize possible mischief

[TwilightZone]

9. I'm not sure how we'd tell the legit switches from the others.

And it could work to our detriment. Say, for example, that our nominee starts dominating in the polls. People like to vote for a winner and a lot of people wait until the last minute to decide, so moderate Rs (they do exist) and Is could re-register in significant numbers late in the process and help our candidate in November.

It really works both ways. Of course, conventional wisdom is that the Rs are more likely to do it for nefarious purposes, but I don't know how we'd ever be able to determine intent.

[still_one]

12. Perhaps it isn't feasible, but getting rid of open primaries i believe is feasible

[TwilightZone]

15. Definitely.

I've never really understood the point of open primaries. The party is choosing a nominee, not the public at large.

And, of course, dump caucuses and never look back.

[still_one]

16. +++

[unc70]

17. Many states do not have party registration

Everyone is unaffiliated. So much for "closed" primaries.

[TwilightZone]

18. Yeah, I know.

I'm talking about the states that do have party registration and still have open primaries. Those we can change. The others, of course, we cannot. Changing what we can is a start.

[unc70]

20. Very hard to change in mist states

Enshrined in state election laws. Would require agreement of GOP legislators. No chance of that happening in NC or in most other states. Another pipe dream

[aeromanKC]

3. Operation Chaos

And it is happening

[guillaumeb]

5. Illinois has open primaries.

But a voter can only vote one time, in one primary.

[thesquanderer]

19. All open primaries are like that. Nowhere can you vote in the Dem AND Repub primaries the same day.

[Blue_true]

31. Since the republican primary is not competitive.

Republicans can take our party ballot. That won't end well for us.

[guillaumeb]

36. Turnout is the key.

An energized mass of voters can win in the general election because we outnumber the GOP voters, and they know that.

[Blue_true]

37. I was referring to a primary, not the General.

But even for primaries, especially open ones, turnout of democrats make a massive difference. If there is massive turnout by democrats in open primaries where republicans can mark a democratic ballot, democrats can overwhelm republican attempts to ratfuck.

I still favor closed primaries. I don't understand why people that normally vote with democrats want to list themselves as independents. When they register in the party, they can join local democratic Comittees and start working their way up to the state and national level, helping to make changes along the way.

[guillaumeb]

38. Understood.

I also favor closed primaries.

[Cha]

6. It's RF and not the will of the Democrats.. it's the "Will"

of trump's operation chaos.

[musette_sf]

7. Operation Chaos.

And in NV, the Rs had nothing to lose. They had no caucus this year, and they can vote for whomever they like in the general. Yes, I would call it rigging.

[still_one]

10. Maybe not legally, but ethically without a doubt

[Chipper Chat]

8. So it does happen.. Confession time......

Last springl I crossed over and asked for a Republican ballot so I could vote for 2 republican friends for mayor and state senator. Yes, I did feel a tad traitorous. But the dem primary was cut and dried. And no, I wont be doing it again.

[Sinistrous]

11. Of course, the farce of "open" primaries

makes this party hopping unnecessary.

[still_one]

13. Open primaries invite it

[Kaleva]

14. "Strategic voting" is what I think it's sometimes called.

[brooklynite]

21. Answer: it's not happening...

I don't care what Rush Limbaugh asks his fanbase to do...

I takes a LOT of people acting in sync to impact the outcome of a Statewide election. Unless there's har evidence, I'll accept that Sanders won Nevada because people (thoughtfully or otherwise) supported him.

[Voltaire2]

22. However just bragging about it gets the desired effect.

People unable to think clearly about what would be involved and motivated to find an alternative explanation for why things are not going the way they want will buy into the bullshit.

It’s a zero cost way to fuck with peoples heads.

[rampartc]

23. i think they consider it "gaming."

do you think democrats have ever done that?

[still_one]

26. Probably. I don't like it regardless

[rampartc]

33. no. whatever they call it, it does not contribute to "the consent of the governed."

[mitch96]

24. My friend is splitting the vote that way...

She is a Dem but is registering as an Republican for the primaries. Vote for the worst repub's (not tRump) and then in the general vote for the Dem for prez...
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[still_one]

25. I don't care who does it, I don't like it

[RandySF]

27. It's dirty, but not illegal.

[Downtown Hound]

28. Nope.

[democratisphere]

29. All Republicans are criminals in everything they say and everything they do.

Rigging elections should be illegal.

[Blue_true]

30. The DNC should close all primaries. Only party members should be allowed to vote. nt

[still_one]

32. I agree. I am just not sure if the DNC is in charge of that or the States Democratic party

[rampartc]

34. i think it may be the state party.

in 2012 Louisiana's republican primary was republicans only, but our democratic primary was open to all others.

in 2016 both primaries were closed.

[still_one]

35. That is how California does it also for their semi-open primaries. Thanks for your insight