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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 08:57 PM Feb 2020

Harry Reid calls for end to all caucuses

Former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) called on the Democratic Party to abandon the caucus system on Sunday in a statement released following the caucuses held in his home state. Reid said in a statement that the Nevada Democratic Party "did a good job" with Saturday's caucuses following the chaos in Iowa after its first-in-the-nation contest, while calling on the caucus system to be dropped entirely.

“With so much Democratic enthusiasm in Nevada, demonstrated again by the tremendous caucus turnout this year, I believe we should make the process of selecting our nominee even more accessible," Reid continued, adding: "That’s why I believe it’s time for the Democratic Party to move to primaries everywhere."

The Democratic Party and Iowa's state party in particular came under heavy criticism after the Iowa caucuses ended in confusion, with two campaigns calling for recanvassing efforts in dozens of precincts and no clear winner being declared in the immediate days afterward.

Iowa's state Democratic Party chair later resigned over the confusion, apologizing and taking responsibility for the decision to use an untested app that failed in many precincts on caucus day.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484291-harry-reid-calls-for-end-to-all-caucuses

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Harry Reid calls for end to all caucuses (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 OP
yes please. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #1
Exactly.. Caucuses aren't Fair to Everyone. Cha Feb 2020 #2
You should only be allowed to vote in the Democratic primary lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #3
Uh, no left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #5
we should let Republicans vote in our Democratic primaries lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #6
Is that how you feel? left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #9
you said "no... just no" lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #10
Nothing, only there are voter registration drives between elections. Those people(Dems)... brush Feb 2020 #11
only if they were too young to vote in the last election lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #12
Not advocating open primaries, just that Dems registered after last election be allowed to vote. brush Feb 2020 #13
I would think there are more legitimate party switches TwilightZone Feb 2020 #8
this would only be for primary lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #17
OR if you were not of voting age when the previous general election happened jmowreader Feb 2020 #16
yes, that's fine. - n/t lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #20
what does this have to do with caucuses? reACTIONary Feb 2020 #19
It's about time. nt pnwmom Feb 2020 #4
TRanslated Me. Feb 2020 #7
Time To Dump Them For Sure colsohlibgal Feb 2020 #14
I'm with Harry. Sea Turtle Feb 2020 #15
Iowa Caucus Casualty Here--PLEASE END THIS NONSENSE! slumcamper Feb 2020 #18
Absolutely. BadgerMom Feb 2020 #21
Caucuses are out dated. Period. oasis Feb 2020 #22
View from Nevada mike507 Feb 2020 #23
Two rounds of primaries. Yavin4 Feb 2020 #24
Either End Caucuses or Move Them to the Very End of Cycle Indykatie Feb 2020 #25
The bad news is progressive candidates like Sanders and Warren can win primaries too ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #26
 

Cha

(297,275 posts)
2. Exactly.. Caucuses aren't Fair to Everyone.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:01 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
3. You should only be allowed to vote in the Democratic primary
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:01 PM
Feb 2020

if you registered as a Democrat in the previous general election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
6. we should let Republicans vote in our Democratic primaries
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:06 PM
Feb 2020

they should be open to anyone that wants to register the day of the primary?

What is wrong with only allowing Democrats to pick our candidates?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
9. Is that how you feel?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:16 PM
Feb 2020

Certainly not what I said.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
10. you said "no... just no"
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:18 PM
Feb 2020

which I take to mean "no" to restricting the primary vote to Democrats.

If you say "well, I certainly want to restrict the voting to just Democrats" then please explain your system of doing that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,784 posts)
11. Nothing, only there are voter registration drives between elections. Those people(Dems)...
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:23 PM
Feb 2020

should be able to vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
12. only if they were too young to vote in the last election
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:29 PM
Feb 2020

we can't have open registration the day before or even the day of a primary...

It just invites the operation chaos people in.

And I am certain that they exist... to put our heads in the collective sand and say "it doesn't happen!" is just plain wrong.

If you have a different way to only let true Democrats vote in primaries, I am open to other ideas.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,784 posts)
13. Not advocating open primaries, just that Dems registered after last election be allowed to vote.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:41 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
8. I would think there are more legitimate party switches
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:14 PM
Feb 2020

than ones intended to disrupt, so I'd have to disagree with your suggestion. We don't want to lose legitimate R-to-D voters who are switching semi-permanently to try to weed out a few who are trying to mess with the system in one primary or caucus.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
17. this would only be for primary
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 10:54 PM
Feb 2020

of course anyone can vote in the general... if they really are Democrats, vote Blue no matter Who applies to them as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
16. OR if you were not of voting age when the previous general election happened
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 10:49 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
20. yes, that's fine. - n/t
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:03 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
19. what does this have to do with caucuses?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:01 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
7. TRanslated
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:09 PM
Feb 2020

'even our caucus was/is a mess and it's time to end this election disaster'

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
14. Time To Dump Them For Sure
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:51 PM
Feb 2020

Voting just makes more sense, Harry is correct.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sea Turtle

(69 posts)
15. I'm with Harry.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:58 PM
Feb 2020

Time to drop them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
18. Iowa Caucus Casualty Here--PLEASE END THIS NONSENSE!
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:01 PM
Feb 2020

I "caucus" in my neighborhood and community.

ENOUGH of this long, drawn-out, complicated, exhausting, and costly process that excludes everyone unless they are able to get in line by 7:00 p.m. on a Monday night, and results in a skewed outcome that reflects only the smallest, activist slice of the local electorate.

What the living fuck, anyway!

LET PEOPLE VOTE.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,388 posts)
22. Caucuses are out dated. Period.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:10 PM
Feb 2020
get rid of them asap.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mike507

(12 posts)
23. View from Nevada
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:33 PM
Feb 2020

I posted this on another caucus thread, but I think it is applicable here:

I live in Nevada, I have participated and worked on three Caucuses; I spent pretty much all of yesterday volunteering at the Nevada Caucus. They may be a bit of a spectacle, they may be an anachronism; but they are not corrupt and I think the Nevada Democratic party made a great effort to give Nevadans a fair platform for having their votes counted.

The strongest criticism of the Caucus process - that they are undemocratic - because they require people to show up at specific time and place and spend several hours to complete the process is fair, however having four days of early voting I think was a reasonable solution. There was an adequate number of polling locations. As to rural voters, I don't mean to sound insensitive, but the realities of life in rural Nevada is: you can be 2+ hours from the nearest supper market, and a frightfully long way from medical care, if you live there, you are used to dealing with inconvenience.

I was a Precinct Chair. After checking people in, I went to my precinct and found the close to 40 people present had rearranged the chairs into a circle and were occupying themselves having a civilized and polite discussion of the candidates and getting to know each other.

The early voting results were added to the votes of the caucus participants before determining viability. During the realignment each group viable or not, was given the opportunity to make the case for their candidate. Only one speaker had any negative comments aimed at other candidates. And no, it was not the Bernie supporter. Nonviable groups knew how many people they need for viability and could have joined together to form a viable group.

During realignment, the preferences from early voting were added to the caucus total. Out of approximately 70 early votes in my precinct 5 ballets had no viable candidates chosen.

Several campaigns had observers in the room and were able to monitor and record the results.

So at the end of the day, groups of neighbors were able to work together to complete a common task.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
24. Two rounds of primaries.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:36 PM
Feb 2020

First round is 4 regional primaries on the same day. Followed by one national primary 90 days later for the top two finishers in each region.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Indykatie

(3,697 posts)
25. Either End Caucuses or Move Them to the Very End of Cycle
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:44 PM
Feb 2020

It's grossly unfair that the candidates' viability is almost set in stone after the first 3 States. This includes 2 caucuses and a 3rd in a very small state that is 93% White. The current primary schedule is an affront to the most loyal Dem voters, African Americans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
26. The bad news is progressive candidates like Sanders and Warren can win primaries too
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:27 AM
Feb 2020

/sarcasm, obviously

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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