Say goodbye to Florida

[mcar]

Link to tweet

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In “60 Minutes” interview, Sanders goes out of his way praise elements of Castro’s reign of Cuba.

“We’re very opposed to the authoritarian nature of Cuba but it’s unfair to say everything’s bad. When Castro came into office you know what he did? He had a literacy program.”

[Garrett78]

1. Yeah, even with a Green New Deal, much of Florida will likely be uninhabitable before long.

[Butterflylady]

7. What does that have to do with the subject of the post?

[Garrett78]

9. I thought we were saying goodbye to Florida.

[ChubbyStar]

15. Thank you well done!

[Me.]

2. OMG

beginning of the end for him.

[MFM008]

3. So did Stalin....

Those re-education programs are hell.

[HarlanPepper]

4. Yes

It’s been my experience that Cuban immigrants who escaped Castro’s brutality do give Castro a lot of credit for his literacy program.

[NurseJackie]

6. And did you know, Hitler's autobahn was one of Germany's most successful infrastructure projects.

And did you know, Hitler's autobahn was one of Germany's most successful infrastructure projects.

[mcar]

13. Right?

[NurseJackie]

5. Heaven help us. Why did the DNC allow him to run in OUR primary?

This will destroy our party and our nation.

[Cha]

12. maybe they won't next time?

[mcar]

14. I'm getting nervous, Jackie

[RandiFan1290]

18. L O L

[blue-wave]

8. Well Golly!!!

Who'd a thunk it?

[dalton99a]

10. Literacy rate in North Korea: 99%.

[Cha]

11. Hopefully we wil NOT have to concern ourselves

with this in the GE against the monster in the WH.

Mahalo, mcar

[IluvPitties]

16. Sanders needs to be defeated if we want to win.

[JudyM]

27. "We" are Democrats who support him, too.

[madaboutharry]

17. Sigh.

He seems to say this shit on purpose out of some need to be provocative.

It is alienating. And depressing.

Mayor Buttigieg was right when he said Bernie wants to burn it all down.

[mcar]

19. Pete was right

I don't get how Sander's team thinks this kind of rhetoric is a good idea.

[Shermann]

21. He made observations about how a Communist regime succeeded at something

Where's the harm in that?

[Vogon_Glory]

23. Triggering simmering resentment among Latinos emigres

From Cuba and Venezuela and causing the ones who are now voting US citizens to either vote for Trump or just stay home and not vote, that’s what.

[Shermann]

31. The Chinese government has been able to mobilize quickly to counter the coronavirus

Will that knowledge upset the emigres as well?

Communism does some things uniquely well. It doesn't mean we're embracing it.

Granted, in Bernie's case, the optics aren't great.

[Vogon_Glory]

32. For your benefit, just in case you haven't thought about it

Most of those still-resentful emigres are from countries like Cuba and Venezuela, NOT China. It was the Marxist governments of Cuba and Venezuela that drove them to choose exile, not the People’s Republic oh China.

[Vogon_Glory]

22. Bernie's praising Marxist Socialist Cuba shouldn't have been a surprise

Saying nice things about Marxist-socialist states’ social welfare states was quite common among the liberal left during that time period and, if I’m not mistaken, Mr. Sanders was still on good terms with the Socialist Workers Party back then.

That such blasts from the past haven’t already been aired is a mystery, unless it shows a decency and restraint that other Democratic politicians possess that Republicans most certainly do not.

I am concerned that (A) the puppies-and-unicorns faction of Bernie’s followers hadn’t thought about the political implications of Mr. Sanders’ remarks being replayed and (B) that they’re willing not only to write off Florida but also other areas of the country where old Cold Warriors reside and who are becoming disgusted with Donnie and Republican politicians becoming willing Russian asserts, despite the fact that Democrats will need all the votes we can get.

Hey, Bernie-philes, here’s a heads-up! You all may have pluralities for three states in a Democratic primary. It doesn’t necessarily follow that you’ll have a majority of the votes to bring your guy across the finish line in November or that he’ll get working majorities in the House of Representatives and the US Senate.

If the Good Guys don’t get enough votes, the Bad Guys win—and bad things happen.

[peggysue2]

36. x1000!

[Skya Rhen]

24. He feels emboldened.

[Kingofalldems]

25. This is why the field needs to narrow.

Like right now.

[liberal N proud]

26. WTF

[Paka]

28. And the take home lesson is...

not any one person, country, way of thought, philosophy, whatever, is all bad or all good. You don't have to fully support Castro to know that he did good things for Cuba. No matter who backs literacy programs, it's a good thing. So is Cuba's health care system. To ignore that is to close your mind to reality.

[TCJ70]

29. Is literacy bad now?

Must be because Bernie talked about it.

[pecosbob]

30. Virtually all the Cuban emigres from '59 are dead

We're scared of Cuban anti-communist ghosts? The Dems only roadblocks in Florida are a whole lot of deluded crackers, Jim Crow laws and crooked Republicans.

[aikoaiko]

33. Bye Felecia.

[Tarc]

34. The handful of Cuban exiles left is old, withering, and already conservative anyways

This isn't 2000 anymore, the likes of Elián González's nutter Miami relatives have little clout.

[mcar]

37. If you really think that SFL Cubans are nothing more than

Elian Gonzalez' nutter relatives, I don't know what to say.

I've lived in FL since 1990. Latinos are not a monolith, but the idea that praise for Castro won't make a difference is just not realistic.

[Tarc]

38. Sanders said Castro did one good thing, and the Establishment equates it to political fellatio

That is what ain't realistic, bub.

[mcar]

41. How would you respond if Trump said Hitler did one good thing?

bub

[Deero]

45. exactly

it's not that he said one nice thing about Castro though. it's that he felt the need to defend Castro at all. Why not just say he was a brutal murderer and completely distance yourself from him?



It makes you wonder what else he might say during the time between now and November. It would be really great to have your democratic nominee cast some praise on Stalin during a debate or something. Hell, there are Republicans who would fit pretty well in Fascist Italy, but they know not to say even sort of good things about Mussolini.

[Tarc]

46. Reductio ad Hitlerum

[uponit7771]

35. omfg

[JustAnotherGen]

39. I heard a clip of it on

MSNBC this morning.

I'll see if I can watch it online.


That will be used in the GE against him. He's got to tamp down some of his more provocative thoughts. Stop, think - and keep his eye on the prize. That statement will not play well not only in Florida, but east of Albany, Central Rural NJ, Pennsyltucky, etc. etc.

[mcar]

42. The ads will be brutal

Some here seem to forget that most voters don't pay as much attention as we politics junkies do. They watch TV and see ads, ads, ads, ads.

We've seen Bloomberg's poll numbers rise as a result. Do they really think the Rs aren't going to be running this clip 24/7?

[JustAnotherGen]

44. If he's the nominee

We'll have to run ads WITH the comment - and then show Trump doing the same thing in the HERE and now.

[PunkinPi]

40. Yep, just added this to another thread. Tweet from Rep Debbie Mucarsel-Powell (FL)...

Link to tweet

As the first South American immigrant member of Congress who proudly represents thousands of Cuban Americans, I find Senator Bernie Sanders’ comments on Castro’s Cuba absolutely unacceptable.

Link to tweet

The Castro regime murdered and jailed dissidents, and caused unspeakable harm to too many South Florida families. To this day, it remains an authoritarian regime that oppresses its people, subverts the free press, and stifles a free society.

[mcar]

43. Yep

[Scurrilous]

47. Stupid x infinity.