James Clyburn Warns Against Sanders: Democrats Will Have 'Real Burden' Selling a Socialist in SC

[highplainsdem]

Mediaite article with video:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/james-clyburn-warns-against-bernie-sanders-democrats-will-have-real-burden-selling-a-socialist-in-south-carolina/

House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-SC) reacted to Senator Bernie Sanders’ Nevada caucus win by warning that a “socialist” will face an uphill battle in his state’s upcoming primary.

Speaking to ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on Sunday, Clyburn acknowledged that the results in Nevada will have an impact on the race, but he said the demographics of South Carolina’s electorate will provide a clearer picture than the primaries that have happened so far. Clyburn went on to play coy about who he would endorse, and said South Carolina could be a “make or break” state for Joe Biden’s candidacy.

Eventually, Stephanopoulos asked whether Sanders’ expanding coalition is having an impact in South Carolina, and “do you think it could put the House majority in danger?”

“A lot of people think so,” Clyburn answered.

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And now there's newspaper evidence from the 1970s quoting Sanders saying he didn't mind being called a communist.

[yaesu]

1. well, all I can say to James is

<a href="https://ibb.co/NxHGcN6"><img src="" alt="doing-it" border="0"></a>

[wisteria]

5. Clyburn isn't interrupting anyone.

And, since Sanders doesn’t like the Democrat establishment , maybe no one should lift a finger to help him. From you post, it seems you think Sanders has it covered.

[dalton99a]

11. +1. The establishment is ideologically impure and unacceptable to the Revolution

Sanders should seek help from certified pure sources

[peggysue2]

21. LOL!!

Yeah, we'll see how far that gets him. This is like a slow-moving train wreck.

[Cha]

24. Absolutely "certified sources only"! Props!

[Skidmore]

20. And Clyburn

has been among the many who have been delivering.

[apcalc]

27. In discussions with others I will not argue 'socialism'.

Nor will I defend Sanders’ position on guns , free college.

I don’t have the energy. I’d rather clean house.

[HarlanPepper]

29. You mean like what President Obama was doing in 2012?

When Bernie wanted the first black president thrown out on the streets over purity issues?

[wisteria]

2. We also need to watch out for the Russians and Republicans

[Voltaire2]

6. Yes I've heard that busloads of russians are being sent to SC to vote for the berns.

What I can't figure out is how the buses get across the ocean.

[highplainsdem]

9. That might be semi-amusing if there hadn't been posts here earlier about Republican plans to

meddle in the SC Democratic primary and vote for Sanders as the candidate most likely to lose to Trump.

[Voltaire2]

19. The poster specifically mentioned Russians.

I guess we will have to see if an organized Republican effort to alter the outcome of the SC Democratic primary a) actually exists and b) has any discernible impact.

But really they just need to say they are doing this. The real intention is to sow discord and confusion within our party, and they don’t have to bother with doing anything at all on primary day.

[OliverQ]

3. Is that why Bernie is catching up to Biden in South Carolina?

[Voltaire2]

4. that is why we have primaries.

The people of SC will decide if they want the cranky old socialist or yet another do-nothing moderate.

[wisteria]

7. But, there shouldn't be any help from Russia or the Republicans.

[brooklynite]

45. Which is the do nothing moderate: Biden or Clyburn? (or both?)

[VMA131Marine]

8. Whoever we nominate ....

isn’t going to win South Carolina in the GE. We have to make sure they can win PA, MI, and WI at the very least. Win those and Trump is toast!

[VarryOn]

26. Exactly right..who cares...

What South Carolinians think?

They wont go Dem in the GE.

[apcalc]

28. Dunno, it could happen.

[VarryOn]

30. I suppose it could...

And if it happened, it means Sanders has won ever state. I always think of SC as one of the most conservative states there is. I mean really conservative. I go there 4 or 5 times a year. Probably the nicest people you could ever meet but don't bring up politics! I take customers from there out to eat when I go. Talk about anything...or almost anything...but politics! Lol

[PubliusEnigma]

10. Is James Clyburn too "establishment" for you???

Listen to him.

He is not anti-progressive. He is pro-wisdom.

[wisteria]

12. Joe would have this if Bloomberg wasn't a spoiler.

And, Steyer too.

[andym]

13. Bloomberg's not running in SC, but Steyer is polling strongly enough to weaken Joe

Joe's lead has been about halved there. SC is the key state for Biden--if it had gone first Joe would be the front runner right now.

[Green Line]

23. What is Steyer thinking?

He has no path to anything.

[still_one]

31. Ego. Both Bloomberg and Steyer are spoilers hoping for a contested convention

The dangerous game both Bloomberg and Steyer are playing can very likely result in a trump victory

[ecstatic]

14. Does SC have open primaries? Nt

[emmaverybo]

16. Yes.

[HerbChestnut]

15. The last Democrat to win South Carolina was Jimmy Carter.

Carter is closer, politically, to Bernie than any Dem nominee since.

[thesquanderer]

17. re: "will face an uphill battle in his state's upcoming primary"

Nice thing about predictions like this... we'll know very soon whether or not he really does have a handle on South Carolina voters' feelings about this.

[LonePirate]

18. We are not going to win SC no matter who is atop the ticket so who cares?

[ehrnst]

37. But to win the SC primary has been a bellwether for who gets the Democratic Nominaton. (tn)

[ehrnst]

25. How about the number of eventual winning Dem candidates that won SC in the primaries?

That seems to be far more relevant at this point, unless one is frantically trying to prophylactically dismiss a pretty certain primary failure of one's candidate. The GE involves Republicans voting after the Democrats have chosen the nominee, so that's not really relevant in terms of the chances of someone becoming the nominee, which is where we are now, is it?

Here you go...

1992 (March 7): Bill Clinton (63%), Paul Tsongas (18%), Tom Harkin (7%), Jerry Brown (6%), uncommitted (3%), and others (2%)[9]
1996: Primary cancelled
2000 (March 9): Al Gore (92%) and Bill Bradley (2%)[10]
2004 (February 3): John Edwards (45%), John Kerry (30%), Al Sharpton (10%), Wesley Clark (7%), Howard Dean (5%), and Joe Lieberman (2%)[11]
2008 (January 26): Barack Obama (55%), Hillary Clinton (27%), and John Edwards (18%)[12]
2012 (January 28): Barack Obama (unopposed)
2016 (February 27): Hillary Clinton (73%) and Bernie Sanders (26%)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_primary

[still_one]

32. Funny how some like to ignore facts

[ehrnst]

33. Yep - especially seeing as this doesn't help the cause of a Dem who is likely to lose SC

in any way, and just appears frantic to shoehorn irrelevant stats into a defense for a coming defeat by a candidate...

[still_one]

34. I know, that is what I meant ehrnst, uncomfortable fact they prefer to ignore

[ehrnst]

35. Thank you for the clarification.

[still_one]

36. ...................

[SweetieD]

39. I'm not sure what this is supposed to prove. Al Gore and Hillary lost the GE and won

SC. Kerry is the only one on your list that lost SC and lost the general. I don't think this data is indicative of anything.

[ehrnst]

40. The data is indicative of SC primary being a past bellwether of who becomes the Nominee.

Is that clearer?

[George II]

43. That's a much more significant thing to be concerned about. Looks like South Carolina....

....is a bell weather state with respect to the nominee.

[Cha]

46. Thank you for that, ehrnst!

[George II]

42. So? Should we just cancel the South Carolina primary? When was the last time....

....the Democratic nominee won Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, etc.?

Why is that even a factor?

[SweetieD]

38. South Carolina wouldn't vote for a Democrat president regardless of their position.

They think every dem is far left.

[ehrnst]

41. We're not talking about the GE, but the primary.

[mgcgulfcoast]

44. And again i remember the glee when Trump was the nominee

We were going to clean up in a democrat landslide. The people backing candidates opposing Bernie have learned nothing. Sanders is a movement.