Hillary Haters Jonathan Allen and Steve Kornaki Slaming Biden

[oasis]

Two MSM lightweights talking smack about Joe Biden "joking" about touching folks after he just released a video explaining about how he learned from his mistakes. Kornaki's sub-hosting on "11th Hour" for Brian Williams. Kornaki and Allen were taking turns making negative remarks about Biden. A wisecracking tag team.

Allen had the nerve to say "I don't believe Biden's ready for prime time".

I've always had suspicions about these two, but this seals the deal for me.

[Cha]

1. I give you Debbie Dindell's take who actually knows Joe..

“It’s his first public event,” Dingell responded. “I’m not going to judge him on it or not on it. The crowd reacted. Joe Biden is Joe Biden. If he runs for president he’s going to win because he is Joe Biden. He’s got to respect people’s space, he’s got to understand that there are some people––and he’s acknowledged it––that don’t like it, but his strength is his empathy.”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128756293

[oasis]

3. People should lighten up a bit. They know Joe meant no harm.

In his way, he first addressed "the elephant in the room" and then went on to the issues that were of concern of the assembly.

[Cha]

6. Exactly, oasis. But, it's not in their agenda

"to lighten up".. it's their mission to take him down.

And, it shows

Fortunately, it looks like a lot of Good people realize that

[Guilded Lilly]

9. And all this while a habitual lecher sits in the White House...

Spewing misogyny, blatant racism, LIES
and sheer bullshit every waking second of his life.
He openly brags about foul, crass and most likely illegal if not deviant sexual behavior.
He calls other humans animals, he promotes caging children, he deports loyal service men because they have brown skin, while he never served anyone but himself every wretched second of his life; he appoints the least qualified idiots to head departments and services that they proceed to gleefully destroy to serve the almighty conservative $ and his twisted narcissist agenda, he disgustingly attacks people in his own party who have died, he incites violence in perpetual rallies and insane Twitterfests aimed at THE STUPID instead of attempting to actually do his supposed job, he admires and kisses the asses of our enemies while insulting and childishly name calling every single American who dares to stand up to his corrupt and soulless lifestyle...


And one of the few nation loving politicians who has a good chance to destroy his skanky ass in the next election...one he so obviously fears as much as he fears Pelosi...one who sometimes socially errs on the side of caring compassionate empathetic humanity...but acknowledges his behavior...
One who isn’t apologizing “well enough” to suit a woman who appears to be mighty two-faced and politically motivated about her uncomfortable zone...is declared by some as “unfit to run”

UnFUCKINGbelievable.

[StevieM]

2. Jonathan Allen played a pivotal role in the death of American journalistic standards

with his ridiculous book "Shattered."

NBC rewarded him, of course, by giving him a job.

[oasis]

4. Allen continues on his path as a journalistic lightweight. nt

[lapucelle]

33. I remember Joy giving him side-eye when she interviewed him about the book.

He and his "co-author" had done an interview on Fox and Friends earlier that day, so they were still in yukking-it-up-over-Hillary mode.

Joy was having none of it.

[redstateblues]

5. Kornacki is awful. He does election numbers ok, other than that he is miserable.

That’s why he doesn’t have his own show

[oasis]

7. For election analysis I always turn to CNN's John King. Kornaki is

too damn annoying.

[Thekaspervote]

8. +1000

[karin_sj]

10. Agree

Whenever he shows up as a sub for one of the shows I watch, I change the channel.

[COLGATE4]

24. Makes two of us...

[katmondoo]

30. It's Saturday so I expect right wingers on MSNBC

Tomorrow will be the same

[lapucelle]

34. He wears the same thing every day. He either seldom washes his clothes

or he has a dozen sets of identical khakis/ blue shirt/ dark blue-light blue striped tie ensembles.

He wore a red and blue striped tie once and I actually called my husband in to see.

[pnwmom]

11. I don't care for Kornaki. But I also didn't love Biden making jokes about the touching

right after he made what I thought was a sincere video, wherein he said he recognized that times had changed, and he would, too.

It was as if he immediately had to undermine or disclaim it, by turning it into a joke.

[oasis]

13. Biden's union engagement was planned long before Flores and

the others came forward with their recollections. There wasn't a person in attendance at the Union hall who didn't know about it. Of course Biden would have to address "the elephant in the room". He did so in a tongue-in-cheek way. It was Joe's way of breaking the tension.

[pnwmom]

28. Yes, it was. But it would have been not for him to refer to at all than to make light of it. n/t

[INdemo]

27. Kornake has always been a Right Wing sympithizer

and a Trump supporter. He has the polls that favour the Right Wingers and then acts as if he is being objective.

I like the 11th hour with Williams but I turned it on last night for three seconds and after seeing Kornake was hosting it I turned it off

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. Exactly right!! Joe did a decent job in that "mea culpa" video saying he "gets it"....

then what does he do? Makes a silly joke where the talking heads are now debating if, indeed, Joe truly DOES get it. It was an unforced error on Joe's part... it's incredible to me that some people don't obviously see that.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[renate]

12. I truly love Joe Biden

I'm like Amy Poehler's character on Parks and Rec.

I think he is a genuinely and deeply empathetic, lovely, compassionate person. If Barack Obama loved and trusted him like a brother, that is all I need to know.

However, it's just a fact that he is overly tactile. And I've seen video compilations of all the times he's been this way that are, to be honest, a little disconcerting. It may be out of excessive empathy and the best of intentions, but it is off putting to many.

We cannot, cannot, cannot risk losing in 2020. There's a reason he's known as a gaffe generator (because he's too honest and genuine? that's what I think). And we have awesome alternatives.

It breaks my heart to say it but I don't think we should just excuse his constant habit of getting so up close and personal, however well meaning. I do not think there has ever been anything sexual about it, and with all of his experience and knowledge he would be a great Vice President again (and I would LOVE for him to be Secretary of State), but I hope he doesn't enter the race. It truly makes me sad to say that.

[LuvNewcastle]

14. I don't think their comments amount to much since

they're a couple of insipid nobodies.

[theophilus]

25. Fortunately, here on DU, we are blessed with only comments from world renowned

thinkers and logicians. If we have demeaning attitudes toward others like classifying them as "insipid nobodies" we not only will not win out but we probably shouldn't. Let's all be nice or at least think about being nice.

[Mike Nelson]

15. Jonathan Allen and Steve Kornaki...

… have become Performance Journalists much more than journalists (especially Steve). They don't necessarily "hate" Hillary (both probably voted for her)… they are on TV to perform and talking about Biden that way is part of the act.

[George II]

17. Kornachi made his name during the Christie "Bridgegate" scandal by purloining....

....the investigative reporting of two writers for the Bergen Record / NorthNJ and reporting it on MSNBC without attributing it to them.

[marylandblue]

19. Aren't most TV journalists performance journalists? nt

[George II]

16. MSNBC is becoming more and more unwatchable.

[oasis]

18. Rachel, Joy and Lawrence O., I watch regularly. Joy has great guests. nt

[theophilus]

26. It would be better if no one watched TV news and just got their info here in the

discussion. That would fix the world, rat quick.

[Butterflylady]

29. How did you know that's what I do?

If I want to find out what's happening I just come here to get the latest news first thing in the morning and last thing at nite. No problem.

[Peacetrain]

20. I do not quite get Steve Kornaki... because

its not only this, but he seems to be always down on Democrats.. finds fault in everything they do or say.. its weird..but we have talked about that at home more than once

[oasis]

21. Kornaki goes into max animation mode whenever he reports dirt on Democrats.

The less I see of him, the better.

[BannonsLiver]

22. Stevie K is in the tank for Bernie

[oasis]

23. I hate watching him, but now I'll look for signs of that particular bias. nt

[RandySF]

32. Allen hates Kamala, too.

[oasis]

36. MSNBC/NBC thinks Allen can fill departed Mark Halperin's role of

Subtle Dem Slammer.

[lapucelle]

35. I wonder why this story has legs.

The allegations against the 2016 BS campaign were much more serious.