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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:42 PM Feb 2020

A question for partisans of candidates other than Bernie and Joe

Please provide us with a plausible path to victory for the candidate of your choice.

Thank you in advance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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A question for partisans of candidates other than Bernie and Joe (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 OP
That's two of my top three. PETRUS Feb 2020 #1
I just switched from Amy. MontanaFarmer Feb 2020 #2
There are ONLY two candidates squirecam Feb 2020 #3
Can't ibegurpard Feb 2020 #4
If we win in November. PETRUS Feb 2020 #5
If Sanders pulls off a win in SC, this may make Joe look vulnerable Kaleva Feb 2020 #6
If Joe finishes second in SC he's done too. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #7
Yep squirecam Feb 2020 #8
If Joe wins SC we have a battle with Sanders as the favorite. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #9
Bloomberg is very close to Biden in many of the Super Tuesday states Kaleva Feb 2020 #11
Well, at least we're free to bash Bloomberg w/o violating the TOS which prohibit bashing Dems hangaleft Feb 2020 #10
Bloomberg's been a Democrat for most of his adult life Kaleva Feb 2020 #12
Most recently he was a Republican hangaleft Feb 2020 #13
Bloomberg was a registered Repub for about as long as Warren was. Kaleva Feb 2020 #14
Warren hasn't been a Republican for what? 20 years? Or is it 30? hangaleft Feb 2020 #16
Bloomberg hasn't been a Repub in over 10 years. Kaleva Feb 2020 #19
Bloomberg remains my bottom choice hangaleft Feb 2020 #20
Okay. We have our differences but we'll both vote Blue No Matter Who this fall! Kaleva Feb 2020 #22
Definitely! hangaleft Feb 2020 #24
looks like a clear violation of the TOS, to me Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #23
Ironically, I recall numerous posts insisting Bernie had no viable path. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #15
If no candidate gets the nod on the first ballot it's a whole new ballgame hangaleft Feb 2020 #17
✔️ blm Feb 2020 #21
I think the only other possibility is Warren via a brokered convention, but I see that as unlikely. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #18
 

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
1. That's two of my top three.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:47 PM
Feb 2020

So you're not asking to hear from me, but I'm not sure I could answer your question even as an intellectual exercise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
2. I just switched from Amy.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:49 PM
Feb 2020

But anybody at this point can make a case as the unifying force, because of the uncertainty of Bloomberg's effect on delegates to the convention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
3. There are ONLY two candidates
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:50 PM
Feb 2020

That can get an outright majority. That’s Bernie and Joe. That’s it.

That’s just the facts. Everything else results in a Sanders plurality and a contested convention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
4. Can't
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:53 PM
Feb 2020

and I don't think she has one. I do, however, retain her as my preference while she is in the race because I've always supported her and she is who I would vote for if I had the choice. My second is Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
5. If we win in November.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:00 AM
Feb 2020

And Warren is not the nominee (which would be great, although i share your skepticism) I have little doubt that Warren will be a major influence, whether she remains a senator or gets a cabinet post. At least, I certainly hope she's invited to roll up her sleeves and do her thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kaleva

(36,351 posts)
6. If Sanders pulls off a win in SC, this may make Joe look vulnerable
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:07 AM
Feb 2020

And support may shift from Biden to Bloomberg. Bloomberg is already polling well in states like Texas, CA, Michigan and Florida. He is also campaigning or has a presence in many states that other candidates are not active in or have just a minimal presence.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
7. If Joe finishes second in SC he's done too.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:10 AM
Feb 2020

At that point the only thing standing between Sanders and the nomination is time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
8. Yep
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:12 AM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg is not getting the nomination.

Biden must win South Carolina. If Bernie wins, it’s over.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
9. If Joe wins SC we have a battle with Sanders as the favorite.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:15 AM
Feb 2020

Joe has a path because he still has the loyalty of African Americans and older voters but they'll leave him if he loses SC. If he loses SC it's because the former already left him.

If Joe loses it's over.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kaleva

(36,351 posts)
11. Bloomberg is very close to Biden in many of the Super Tuesday states
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:20 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
10. Well, at least we're free to bash Bloomberg w/o violating the TOS which prohibit bashing Dems
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:17 AM
Feb 2020

Last edited Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:52 AM - Edit history (1)

Because Bloomberg is not a Dem, he’s a fucking Republican.

Say what you will about Bernie, but he has always caucused with the Dems. I’d take him over stop and frisk Bloomberg (who was still defending the policy as recently as 2015) any day of the week. Hell, I’d take Gabbard over Bloomberg.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kaleva

(36,351 posts)
12. Bloomberg's been a Democrat for most of his adult life
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:22 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
13. Most recently he was a Republican
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:24 AM
Feb 2020

He’s worse than Bernie. At least Bernie’s consistent. Bloomberg changes his stripes whenever it serves his personal purpose.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kaleva

(36,351 posts)
14. Bloomberg was a registered Repub for about as long as Warren was.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:26 AM
Feb 2020

And most recently, Bloomberg was a Independent.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
16. Warren hasn't been a Republican for what? 20 years? Or is it 30?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:32 AM
Feb 2020

She hasn’t flip flopped back and forth to serve her personal interests. For at least ten years, and probably longer, she’s been a consistent, tenacious proponent of a well-regulated capitalism and protection of the consumer. I’d bet dollars to donuts that Bloomberg would implement an unfettered free market economy if he had his way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kaleva

(36,351 posts)
19. Bloomberg hasn't been a Repub in over 10 years.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:40 AM
Feb 2020

He endorsed Obama in 2012, Hillary in 2016, donated million to Dems running for House seats in the 2018 election and helped win that chamber for us. Arguably doing more to help win the House that year then all the other candidates combined. Bloomberg has been attacked for years by the NRA and pro-gunners for his work on passing common sense gun control laws and supporting candidates who favor gun control laws. Bloomberg has an outstanding record on climate change. And this election Bloomberg has donated millions once again to down ticket Dems.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
20. Bloomberg remains my bottom choice
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:52 AM
Feb 2020

Last edited Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:56 AM - Edit history (1)

If Bloomberg gets the nod, he gets my vote.

I just hope and pray that, should he ascend to the presidency, he doesn’t become an autocrat.

I’ve worked with guys like him as a corporate attorney with a Wall Street law firm (yes, I sold out and worked with the enemy for five years out of law school to pay off my massive student loans). I know how they think, how they act. “Demanding”* doesn’t begin to describe them. When they say “jump”, you’re expected to say, “How high?” These guys don’t believe in checks and balances. They believe they know the best and only way to do things and rule with an iron fist. In this respect, Bloomberg would be no better than Trump.

*”tyrannical” is the best fit to describe the mindset and attitude of these CEO and venture capitalist types

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kaleva

(36,351 posts)
22. Okay. We have our differences but we'll both vote Blue No Matter Who this fall!
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:59 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,439 posts)
23. looks like a clear violation of the TOS, to me
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:34 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,993 posts)
15. Ironically, I recall numerous posts insisting Bernie had no viable path.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:30 AM
Feb 2020

But things are unpredictable. And especially if we end up with a brokered convention, who knows what can happen? We're now in a situation where winning the nomination may not require a majority or even plurality of delegates before the start of the convention. So even if nothing else, there's the viable path. You maybe just want to get there with whatever strength you can.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
17. If no candidate gets the nod on the first ballot it's a whole new ballgame
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:35 AM
Feb 2020

And Warren just might be the compromise candidate around whom all sides coalesce.

Edit: Not that it’s that big a deal, but I meant to post this response to Garrett, below.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
18. I think the only other possibility is Warren via a brokered convention, but I see that as unlikely.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:35 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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