Trump tax returns are becoming a HUGE issue. Bernie has also repeatedly promised the release of his

[Maru Kitteh]

taxes whilst delay, delay, delay.

Bottom line. Bernie has no firm moral standing to speak against Trump's financial entanglements whilst he continues to obfuscate the details of his own.

I want ANY dem nominee we have to be fully transparent in their personal financial dealings. It matters.

[lunamagica]

1. Hear hear! I completely agree with you. What are they hiding?

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[Eliot Rosewater]

2. FACT anyone ANYONE who wont release them is HIDING SOMETHING

cALL ME CRAZY BUT I dont want someone for president who is CLEARLY not who they say they are since hiding them is PROOF OF THAT

[GemDigger]

3. Definately.

When I heard him say this ..

"I didn't end up doing it because I didn't win the nomination, if we had won the nomination we would have".

..a few days ago it cemented the need for us to pressure him to show.

[denverbill]

4. You spelled definitely wrong.

[GemDigger]

5. Did you get anything else out of the comment? Or just nit pickin?

I have no intention of fixing it.

Next time make a comment about the content and then nitpick and I will change it for you.

[BlueFlorida]

9. Did you have any difficulty

understanding the post because of the typo?

If you did, my sympathies are with you.

[Blue_true]

6. Bernie.

May feel that releasing tax returns proves nothing. If so he should come out and say that. Or, he could be hiding something that is embarrassing. Either way, he's not doing anything but creating a damaging narrative for himself by pussyfooting around the issue.

[BlueFlorida]

10. Unless the damaging narrative

is not as disastrous as what is in those tax returns.

[Blue_true]

32. His inability to release them does cause a person's mind to assume horrible stuff are

in them.

[KitSileya]

11. Let's be honest - there's something more damaging in his un-amended tax returns

than the damage he's incurring from not releasing them. It is the only logical conclusion. He was asked about his tax returns in 2016, and he stalled as badly as now. There's absolutely no reason to think he wouldn't be asked again to release them this time around, and he hasn't. The only logical conclusion is that there's something in them so damaging that not releasing them is less damaging. If he's running out the clock and releases 2008-2018, the only logical conclusion is that the 2007 tax return is the buried land mine waiting to go off on his campaign. After all, there's absolutely no reason, no reason at all that he couldn't have released 10 years two months ago. If he stalls for two months (really for over three years, but let's not quibble) so that he can include 2018 in the list of ten years of tax returns, it's because he's desperate to keep 2007 hidden. 2007 would include the very damaging kickbacks his wife got for ad buys in the 2006 campaign before they figured out how to hide it through Old Towne Media.

[NurseJackie]

12. Someone has made a calculated decision that there would be less damage from NOT releasing them.

Could it be that he (and Jane) and the campaign director/s have ALREADY made a cynical and calculated decision that there would be less damage from NOT releasing them, compared to the damage of actually releasing them as promised?

Everyone knows that this is a great big "fuck you" to the American voters and to the other candidates. It's the political equivalent of "Pleading-the-Fifth" ... and although that's not legal proof of wrongdoing, it certainly does make people wonder what's being hidden.

People deserve to know if the candidate they're thinking of voting for is honest and that he (or she) is not a "tax-cheat". The voters are entitled to know where a candidate's money comes from, how it's being invested, donated, saved. Is the money in a domestic bank or in some off-shore haven? Is the candidate generously giving to his/her favorite charities? If so, what are they? There's MUCH to be learned about a candidate by looking at his or her full and complete tax returns.

Personally, I think it's hypocritical for ANYONE to be lecturing other politicians about how important things like "honesty" and "transparency" are... and then to completely ignore that standard. Any candidate who does that would be revealing his (or her) hypocrisy.

It's my belief that anyone who doesn't release their full and complete tax returns (for at LEAST ten years prior... no "summaries" and no "corrections" or "re-filing'') should be disqualified and ineligible from appearing in any DNC debates.

[Blue_true]

34. I just don't think that Bernie can get away with not releasing his returns this time around.

The media had Hillary's emails, it let Bernie slide. But now Bernie is considered a front runner. If every democrat on the debate stage with him have released years of full returns and Bernie has not, that will not be a good look for him and will become a major issue, IMO.

[lapucelle]

24. If there isn't anything damaging, it becomes of question of suitability for the office.

Why would anyone be so needlessly secretive? And BS's,"You want them today, but you won't get them today" answer to Jake Tapper question about the taxes reeks of arrogance and entitlement.

Given the alleged pervasive predatory culture, discrimination, harassment, and sexual violence on his last campaign, it's fair to say that BS has failed the leadership test.

Given his testy, dismissive responses to fair questions about the promises he has made concerning the release of his tax returns, it doesn't look as if BS has the requisite temperament either.

[Cha]

7. I read on here yesterday that he

said on TDS that he was releasing them April 15th.

So we'll see.. "soon".

[MrsCoffee]

13. But he didn't say that.

It will be repeated that he did until he doesn’t. Then they will all say (admit) he never said April 15th.

It’s just a running joke at this point.

[Cha]

16. Wow.. sorry, I don't know

where the source is now.. it seemed they had the vid in their post so I figured it was true.

I sure as hell didn't watch it.

Thanks!

[MrsCoffee]

18. Here is what he actually said about April 15th:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/04/politics/bernie-sanders-tax-returns/index.html

(CNN)Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders sidestepped questions Thursday about when he will release his tax returns, with the Vermont independent hinting he could fulfill his six-week old pledge to make public 10 years of tax returns on April 15 -- Tax Day.

Yet, as quickly as Sanders suggested that, he appeared to backtrack and wouldn't commit that he would release them then.

"Do you know what April 15th is? It's Tax Day," Sanders told CNN on Capitol Hill when asked if there was an issue to releasing his taxes.

"So, I think we want to make sure we have all of them together and as I said, they will be released soon."

When asked if that meant he would not necessarily release his tax returns on April 15, Sanders responded, "That's it. Thank you very much."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/05/politics/bernie-sanders-taxes/index.html

In an interview with "Daily Show" host Trevor Noah that aired Thursday night, Sanders said much the same thing. Here's the exchange:

Sanders: April 15th is coming. That will be the tenth year and we will make them all public very...

Noah: What's all? Just so people know.

Sanders: Ten years. And by the way, I'm delighted to do that, proud to do that. Hey Mister Trump [looks at camera], you do the same thing.

Which, maybe? It's possible that in 10 days' time, Sanders releases a decade -- or so -- of back tax returns and this issue recedes. But there's reason to be a bit suspicious of Sanders' promises that his tax release is imminent. Back in February, at a CNN town hall with Wolf Blitzer, the Vermont senator said he would release his taxes "sooner than later."

[Cha]

19. Wow.. Thank You for that, MrsCoffee..

It looks like he put himself on the hook to release them ALL by challenging trump to do "the same thing".

[MrsCoffee]

20. I'm calling his bluff, lol.

I just don't expect to ever see either of their tax returns.

[Cha]

21. What the hell could they

possibly not want to show the world?

Most pols have no problem showing years of their FULL Tax Returns.. like Hillary.

[George II]

22. Not only that, but in an interview by Andrea Mitchell the afternoon before they flew to Rome...

...., April 14. Jane told Mitchell that they would be released, to quote, "when they're due", which was about two weeks from that day.

There's also this, an interview with Mark Halperin. Of course we're still waiting.

[MrsCoffee]

25. It's really absurd.

[spooky3]

26. Taxpayers can request extensions of time to file.

Any predictions on whether, around the 15th, he will say that he can’t release anything until after the extension date?

[MrsCoffee]

28. Maybe he will suddenly come under audit.

[spooky3]

31. Yes :-), and those can last years...nt

[George II]

15. 2019?

[Cha]

17. That was the implication.. but

MrsCoffee just told me he didn't say that.

The post had a vid of TDS in it.. which I didn't watch.

[BlueFlorida]

8. Won't be long before average people

start equating the non-release of tax returns.

Bernie will be asked about them wherever he goes.

[MineralMan]

14. "I want ANY dem nominee we have to be fully transparent in their personal financial dealings."

I insist on it if a candidate wants my primary vote. I will not vote in the primary election next year for any candidate who has not released his or her tax returns for multiple year. Nope.

[bullwinkle428]

23. Lawrence O'Donnell just called out ALL of the male candidates running for Pres. (with

the exception of Jay Inslee, who released 10+ years already) for not being on top of this and releasing them already. He just made that same point about not being in any position to address Chump's taxes if they're in the same boat.

Played clips of both Pete and Bernie, and at least gave Pete a bit of an "out" since he has yet to officially declare, but said the clock will be ticking on all starting April 15. Said Bernie didn't really have an excuse at all, given that he's an "old pro" at this running for President thing.

Also mentioned that all of the women running had done a great job getting them out there.

[dem4decades]

27. Bernie and Trump, are both under audit? Or do they have

Different excuses?

[nycbos]

29. I am guessing Bernie is the opposite of Trump on this issue.

Bernie doesn't want people to know that he is richer than people think.


He is getting some bad advice on this issue. It is a bad look. I have a hunch that most people will not care that he made a bunch of money in book royalties.

[dlk]

30. Regardless of Sanders Reasons, It Makes Him Look Bad

[Bettie]

33. As soon as they are cleared to participate in the first debate

they should release their returns.