After Super Tuesday, Bernie will be our nominee.

[Yavin4]

Barring some miracle, after Super Tuesday, 60% of the total delegate count will have been allocated, and Bernie has the operation to amass a majority of those delegates. If Trump is a national emergency, then Bernie will be our lone hope to take him down.

We need to accept this and move forward.

[RandySF]

1. Then I will devote my work to saving the House.

[totodeinhere]

42. I hope that you will at least vote for our nominee no matter who she or he is.

I know that I have made that commitment. We all should.

[RandySF]

46. I'm sure as hell not voting for Stein.

[Codeine]

2. #bendtheknee

[chillfactor]

3. Heaven forbid......

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jimfields33]

29. You know this is a progressive site.

We are forward thinkers.

[Butterflylady]

36. Wow, and all this time I thought it was a democratic site.

Who knew!

[musette_sf]

44. I thought it was a Democratic site too

[Submariner]

37. We are laser focused forward to November 3, 2020

which is why it's terrifying that Sanders lied by omission for a month knowing Iowa would be tilted by his Russian help.

He duped us and must drop out now or we are doomed with Trump, because of this hell Bernie has brought to bear on us.

[totodeinhere]

52. I think you are getting way ahead of yourself here. All we have is a leak put out on the day before

Nevada caucuses. And there has been no indication from Democratic officials in Iowa to the effect that Russian interference had anything to do with the Iowa results. Before you make such an accusation you would need something specific to back that up, not just a leak from an anonymous source.

[Codeine]

60. So think forward enough

to realize losing the House and ensuring Trump’s re-election is a less-than-progressive outcome.

[AirmensMom]

70. +1000 n/t

[thesquanderer]

4. If we're down to two or three candidates after Super Tuesday...

...I think the remaining delegates could break against Sanders enough to offset whatever post Super Tuesday lead Sanders may have.

[Yavin4]

10. Even if more Dems drop out, his lead will be insourmountable because of proportionate delegation.

The only way to stop him will be a brokered convention which will mean chaos for the Democratic party.

[evertonfc]

12. A socialist is chaos

[fallout87]

17. Ah hem...

Democratic socialist

[Peacetrain]

22. ah hem

[5X]

34. there are probably more recent examples,

if you have to go back 22 years to support your position, you lose.

[Peacetrain]

50. Uh huh

[5X]

55. Actually, 32 years, its even worse.

too much drama to do math.

[thesquanderer]

21. It depends how far he's ahead. If it's not by much, proportional delegate allocation cuts both ways.

[Fiendish Thingy]

20. That is why Biden, Buttigieg and Klobuchar must decide which two will drop out NOW

If all three stay in the race on Super Tuesday, it will ensure Sanders gets a plurality of delegates.

Some tough choices facing the moderate candidates in the next few days...

[MontanaFarmer]

30. I agree. Pete and Amy can't compete super Tuesday.

Love Amy, hope she runs again, but i think she's going to realize it's time, and soon. I fear Pete won't before ST. Hard to say with Biden, depends on SC result but even that is probably too late to matter. Warren will get a fair number of those mainstream voters, as she's running a true blue liberal democratic campaign (i love how she's running, capitalism with a dose of regulation and even- handedness). There is time to stop Bernie, and for me a plurality doesn't get him there.

[Moderateguy]

5. It's not over until some gets 2k delegates

No one is bending the knee so stop asking people to accept it.

[still_one]

11. +++

[Boulevardier]

6. I don't think it's nearly settled, and the party may end up in a real mess.

I like Bernie, but I'm not sure enough Democratic primary voters do to get him over the top.

And if he ends up with a massive delegate lead, but not enough to get a majority, then the real headache begins. He'll be able to make a strong case that he should be the nominee. If he gets the nomination, a big chunk of the party will be quite unhappy. If he doesn't get the nomination, a different big chunk of the party will be quite unhappy.

AOC got criticized for saying that in most places she and Joe Biden wouldn't be in the same party. That's true; they are ideologically miles apart. The Big Tent has some issues. I worry about how this is going to play out.

[madville]

7. Bernie could walk away from California with a huge chunk of delegates

300+ of their 416 if it falls his way and the field stays as large as it is.

[still_one]

13. and on Super Tuesday there are 6 very red states whose total delegates exceed California

[5X]

35. I for one will never bow down to the red states even tho I live in one. n/t

[still_one]

40. Bow down? WTF are you talking about. THIS IS ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES where supposedly

DEMOCRATS vote to select who they want for their nominee

Are you suggesting that Democrats in RED STATES don't count, and should be allowed a say in who the Democratic nominee is?

[5X]

47. No, I'm saying I'm not voting in the primary by what red-states think. n/t

[still_one]

54. Appreciate the clarification. What I am pointing out is that there are red states, with DEMOCRATS

in them, that have delegates that are used to determine the Democratic nominee, and 6 of those red states on Super Tuesday have the total number of delegates that exceed MY STATE CALIFORNIA's delegates.

While California has a lot of delegates, the way the Democratic primaries are, it isn't winner take all, but on a proportional system with each candidate having a minimum of 15%

This means that one state, regardless of the number of total delegates it has, most likely will not be the determining factor in the nomination process, but a combination of states

[5X]

58. Thank you,

been at this since '72, so I have some understanding of the situation.

The infighting here is helping no one tho.

[Boulevardier]

51. I don't know that Bernie will necessarily do poorly in the red state primaries.

He may have some appeal to voters who feel they get ignored by coastal elites.

[evertonfc]

8. and lose decisively

in fact, he will take House seats with him and make Senate races like NC, GA and SC impossible. I'll vote for him but he will tear party to shreds as America will never elect a Democratic Socialist who supported Marxists candidates agianst Democrats. We're finished until 2024

[RockRaven]

19. There will be no recovery in 2024 if Trump wins a second term with down-ballot effects.

If anyone thinks voter disenfranchisement and gerrymandering and the influence of corporations, billionaires, and illegal campaign spending is bad now, they will be lost for words at what it looks like by 2024 after 4 more years of unfettered aggressive malicious corruption. We're headed for a de facto disenfranchisement of the majority on a generational timescale if we don't get the WH and Senate.

[Vogon_Glory]

24. +1 n/t

[still_one]

9. If he has the required delegates on the first ballot for the nomination, yes, if not

then it will be up to the second ballot and super delegates that EVERYONE AGREED TO BEFORE THE PRIMARIES STARTED

[Turin_C3PO]

15. It's a lose, lose for us

if it’s a brokered convention. If Bernie get it, the some moderates sit out. If a moderate wins, then a substantial portion of the left will stay home. Say hello to another four years of Trump.

[Codeine]

18. He should have stayed out of the race.

He’s a destructive force who has sown bitterness and division that will last a decade.

[rzemanfl]

65. +1. n/t

[still_one]

31. Then that is the way it is. Thanks to so many open primaries, where non-Democrats can vote in the

Democratic primary, along with the discriminatory Caucus process, it was only a matter of time we would reach this situation.

We don't know whether it will be a brokered convention or not, but if it is, it is because no candidate reached the required number of delegates for the nomination.

If hypothetically we were to change the rules that EVERY CANDIDATE agreed to before this process took place, and just give the nomination to the person who had the most delegates, but NOT the required number of delegates for the nomination, you don't think that would also result with some unhappy people sitting it out like they did in the 2016 general election?

I would also suggest that in spite of the abuse and horrendous behavior of trump, no matter which candidate the Democrats nominate, it is anything but a sure thing, though there are some candidates that will do better than others against trump, it is all within the margin of error

In other words, brokered convention or not, there is a very real possibility of four more years of trump

[CalFione]

14. only 35% will have been allocated after Super Tuesday

[Moderateguy]

26. This

The OP needs to correct their information because it is false. A majority of the delegates will be awarded AFTER Super Tuesday

[J_William_Ryan]

16. I just voted for Joe - Florida absentee ballot.

I have no problem with Sanders – I’ll aggressively campaign for him and will vote for him this November if he’s the nominee.

[Vogon_Glory]

23. It ain't over till it's over

Let’s see the results first.

[Bumperstickers]

25. If he wins by 20 plus today, its over.

His poll numbers will shoot up another ten points and bidens 3.5 pt lead in SC will become a 5 pt deficit. Then supertuesday will be a sweep.

[cwydro]

28. Lol.

[apcalc]

27. Nope, he will not. Not ever.

[delisen]

32. Sorry we got the word on Putin-can't roll over

Authoritarians on the left of us and authoritarians on the right.
We have to fight for our freedom.

[5X]

33. If true, many posters should leave this site.

From the posts I've seen, many won't support Bernie or have at least burned all bridges.

[Codeine]

43. Oh please.

Every non-Bernie poster has made it clear we’ll vote for him. We’re the adults in the room; we’re blue no matter who.

[5X]

49. Not every one.

[Codeine]

59. I do recall one post

where someone said they’d write in another Democrat because they live in a blue state so it wouldn’t matter.

So I’ll grant you one.

But isn’t the entire point of the #bendtheknee campaign that Bernie folks will sit out a general election without him? One pissed-off person in a blue state vs a big chunk of the Sanders voting bloc doesn’t make for a fair comparison.

[5X]

61. that is not my group, I find it disgusting.

[Codeine]

62. My apologies. I will edit. nt

[totodeinhere]

38. Agreed. All of this hand wringing over the Sanders candidacy will do us no good.

We have no choice but to get behind the voters' choice and move forward.

[Codeine]

41. #bendtheknee

[Codeine]

39. 60% of the delegate count?

I don’t think that’s accurate.

[Moderateguy]

48. It's not

It’s just Sanders supporters trying to build a fake inevitability aura for their candidate

[octoberlib]

45. Four more years of Trump is hard to accept but it's where we're at.

[Peacetrain]

57. My biggest fear... and we will truly have a deep state

then of Trump appointees, and professional staff who take years to get up to speed., driven out. Also Trump will be untouchable because he will by beyond the statues of limitations.. and 2020 will have once again give the republicans another chance to become even more entrenched in re-drawn districts..

But I sill have hope..

[democratisphere]

53. The f' he will.

I am not prepared to watch THIS country go down the tubes without a GD fight.

[Codeine]

63. Hear hear!!

Bernie took a mathematically-doomed campaign all the way to the convention in ‘16, and I sure as hell hope we take a mathematically-possible campaign all the way this year.

[democratisphere]

66. Absolutely!

[Meadowoak]

56. Just vote blue, no matter who! We don't always get our #1 choice, but anyone is better than Trump.

[Codeine]

64. This.

I’ll even vote for Bloomberg if I am forced to.

[MFM008]

67. Whoa

Why give up on Warren?
Can we just cool our jets before we name
Sanders king yet.

[BootinUp]

68. Rofl

[Meowmee]

69. I think

If that is the case there is no point having an election, it will be over. I was talking with my family and they said if others have enough delegates and the numbers are right, super delegates can change their votes at the convention and decide who the nominee is, I hope so. I am not clear on all the details. Sanders is a disaster and is becoming unhinged. I will vote for him of course but I won’t help that campaign at all most likely, not that it will matter. My father said he will write in Biden and we are dissuading him from that. It won’t matter in our state. I am preparing for 4 more years of this nightmare, and hoping me and my family make it through. I hate this, it is killing my father before my eyes.

[rwheeler31]

71. No, 3 states have voted and we get stuck with this guy who cannot win?

This is as undemocratic as it gets. Are you trying to make people give up trying for a real Democratic candidate?