Please spare me the outrage about the "establishment" comment.

[DanTex]

Everyone knows that (A) there is such a thing as the "Democratic establishment" and (B) the Democratic establishment doesn't want Bernie to be the nominee.

If you doubt that, run a google search, and you'll find a dozen articles about how the Democratic establishment is worried about Bernie's rise and thinking about ways to stop it. Go ahead, try it. You'll see.

Another thing we all know is that the "Democratic establishment" doesn't refer to the whole Democratic party, or to rank-and file Dem voters like me. The establishment consists of people like James Carville, who recently called Bernie a "communist."

Bernie isn't being "disloyal" or whatever for point out things that everyone already knows and are widely reported in the media. Give me a break.

[jmg257]

1. Yep - been there done that!

Senator Bernie Sanders's victory in the New Hampshire primary has deepened a mood of anxiety among the Democratic establishment

One thing unites establishment Democrats: Fear of Sanders

The Democratic establishment is doing a really bad job of stopping Bernie Sanders. Complaining doesn't accomplish anything; they need to

Bernie Sanders' real obstacle is not Trump. It's the Democratic establishment

Parts of the Democratic Party establishment are now in full-on panic over the possibility of a Bernie Sanders surge,

The Sanders factor: Establishment Democrats are beginning to panic

etc. etc. etc.

google "democratic establishment support sanders"

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk00hUCKzgP7E23oh66pmEcpNwOb25Q%3A1582386744860&source=hp&ei=OE5RXvexMdDs_Qarwa6YCg&q=democratic+establishment+support+sanders&oq=democratic+establishment+support+sanders

[George II]

2. Yes, there is such a thing as the "Democratic establishment", it's known as the Democratic Party!

[DanTex]

5. Those are different things. Obviously.

[2naSalit]

11. Which he refuses to be part.

[NurseJackie]

20. I can't support anyone who says there's "no difference" between Democrats and the GOP.

That's some SEVERE hatred and contempt for the Democratic party.

[2naSalit]

27. or ignorance by choice. ...nt

[ripcord]

130. So you would have rather Bernie run third party? (NT)

[2naSalit]

133. Please fill in the

Grand Canyon sized gap you leapt over to come to that conclusion on my behalf.

[Squinch]

3. Poor, poor Bernie. Everyone is mean to him. Well... not everyone.

[NurseJackie]

22. Putin likes him. So there's that.

[dalton99a]

31. If you don't vote for Bernie, you are Establishment

[Squinch]

47. And don't forget an oligarch and a corporatist and a SJW. We are, truly, very very bad.

[Tom Rinaldo]

40. Who gives a fuck about "mean"?

There is a "Stop Bernie" movement whether or not you want to acknowledge it. And those most convinced that "Bernie must be stopped" are not afraid to acknowledge that fact. It's a part of politics, and whether or not those who are "well established" in positions of influence within the Democratic Party are right to want Bernie stopped, it is foolish to deny they exist. Would you feel better if the phrase "the leadership of" was used instead of "the establishment of"?

Whatever views you or I hold we probably don't belong to any establishment inside the Democratic Party, even though I just retired as a Democratic Committeeman. That doesn't mean there isn't one. Call them opinion shapers, call them leaders, call them power brokers, call them "influential", call them "well networked", call them anything you want: They exist. That doesn't necessarily make them wrong but, for better or worse, it does make them disproportionately powerful.

[Squinch]

56. There's a group that wants to stop Biden, and one that wants to stop Liz and

one that wants to stop every other candidate. The group that wants to stop Bloomberg is probably the most vocal and biggest.

None of those candidates resorts to the persecution claims that BS is constantly throwing at Democrats.

For 5 years, he has been claiming victimhood. And all the while he has been the one trashing the party and creating drama and division within the party.

The Democratic establishment consists of Nancy Pelosi and John Lewis and Biden and Obama and Stacy Abrams and Eliot Engel. These are people who represent ME. I am the Democratic establishment whether you deem that I should think that way about myself or not.

When BS insults them and trashes them and dismisses them and acts as if they are just as much his enemy as republicans, he offends all of us. He trashes all of us.

This semantic spin is weak and I suspect you know it. If BS wants not to be seen as claiming victimhood, he needs to stop acting like a victim of the "Democratic establishment." It's old, it's obnoxious, and it's self-aggrandizing.

[mzmolly]

69. This.

[Tom Rinaldo]

87. The Bloomberg comparison is apt, the others aren't

and I suspect you know it. You may well believe that the Democratic Establishment represents you well, and that it has your full support, that it has fully earned it,and that it is a legitimate extension of your own political belief system. Nothing wrong with any of that. It is a lot larger than a few dozen well known voices, it includes some political strategists, some political pundits, most State Democratic Party Chairpersons, many elected Democrats, most major Democratic donors, etc, Again there is nothing wrong with that. Maybe you too have out sized influence within the Democratic Party and I'm just unaware of it. Could be. I however do not.

There was a Democratic Political Establishment in place prior to Bill Clinton running for President proclaiming "an end to the era of Big Government" and Clinton and his allies defeated that Democratic establishment. And another one then formed modeled more closely to Clinton's ideas. Such things happen. It may or may not happen again soon.

[Squinch]

89. Oh FFS. This is just more and more insistence on BS's victimhood.

And it is ridiculous.

I cannot express how over it I am.

And it appears I am not alone.

[betsuni]

134. Offends all of us, trashes all of us.

He tells us over and over that the Democratic establishment is corrupt, so what does that make Democratic voters? Idiots? Complicit? Part of the dreaded "donor class"? Wealthy elites? It's insulting and ridiculous. It's cartoon politics.

[corbettkroehler]

72. Let's Try Some Facts

Where, oh, where, could the source of this slimy move have originated or be aimed?

Link to tweet

[Squinch]

78. You said it! It MUST be Bernie persecution! By the evil, evil establishment monster!

[Doremus]

81. Poor, poor moderates. Their candidates are faltering to a progressive for the first time in years

and all I can hear is a hue and cry about how unfair it is.

Progressives have been voting for and supporting moderates for decades. Is a little reciprocity too much to ask? Apparently it is, but the least you can do is stop redirecting your anger at progressives and call it what it is: sour grapes.

[Squinch]

84. When Russians are ratfucking for one of the candidates, that's kind of a slam dunk

that it IS unfair.

It seemed very weird. Turns out that it WAS very weird.

[Doremus]

86. Progressives have been voting for and supporting moderates for decades. Is a little reciprocity too

much to ask?

[Squinch]

88. When its Putin's candidate so he can get Filthy Donnie elected? Um, yeah. That's way too much

to ask. And really stunning in the way it ignores what is at stake.

Are you really asking this?

[Butterflylady]

95. Yes, when it puts the country in danger.

[Garrett78]

4. Stop getting in the way of the dominant narrative. Rational thought has no place here.

[5X]

23. +1

[Devil Child]

79. +2

[handmade34]

6. James Carville

the establishment

nope, not going to spare you the outrage...

[Roy Rolling]

97. So, "old" Democrats

There are no non-AARP “establishment Democrats”.

I understand older people who get too comfy over time, and I understand younger people who want to change things. And change requires, often, throwing out the old.

I get it. But it requires wisdom to determine what things need to be thrown out, and that comes with age. Nobody is born wise.

So Establishment Democrat is a poor description of the inefficient management bureaucracy that plagues every institution. And linking candidates as champions of a mindless U.S. Government bureaucracy just perpetuates a stereotype of U.S. government workers echoed by Putin cutouts.

Don’t fall for it.

[33taw]

7. Bernie will need all of us to vote for him.

Offending 65% of the Democratic Party is foolish

[DanTex]

10. I can assure you that he is not offending 65% of the party.

[33taw]

14. He needs all of us. 35% support him at this point.

[Squinch]

34. 65%? Did he tell you that?

[33taw]

90. No, I did the math. Bernie has captured about 27% of the vote to this point.

I am not sure who is “he”, but I upped the 27% to be generous. The other dems 73% support someone else at this point. That will likely change, but it is where we stand now.

[sprinkleeninow]

115. Likely change? Yah, it could go

⬇ further..

just sayin'...

[33taw]

116. I think support could go down for Bernie. That tweet was not his brightest move.

[sprinkleeninow]

118. No, I don't believe that it was. Detracting. Instead of advancing.

Disappointing.

[evertonfc]

8. lololol

We don't want a Democratic Socialist that has actively supported Marxist representing our party, losing the WH and costing us House seats. Got It? Good.

[Turin_C3PO]

15. Better than Bloomberg.

I’d vote for Sanders in a heartbeat over him. And I’m not alone.

[highplainsdem]

25. I'd vote for Bloomberg over Sanders in a heartbeat. And so would most of the people here,

judging by a few polls that have been done.

[Turin_C3PO]

29. Sure. A lot would

most definitely vote Bloomberg over Sanders. But there’s a lot of Bloomberg dislike out there too.

[redstateblues]

132. I would

[5X]

26. +1

[Jersey Devil]

9. It does refer to the rank and file

I have been working to elect Democrats since registering voters for LBJ before I was even old enough to vote myself. I have run for office as a Democrat (and won) and managed Dem campaigns, made phone calls and driven voters to the polls for over 50 years. If I am not an "establishment" Democrat then the moon is made of green cheese.

[DanTex]

12. Uh, no. The term for that is "Democratic rank and file", not "Democratic establishment".

[PatSeg]

19. Oh, so who defines

who is "Democratic rank and file" and who is "Democratic establishment"? In Bernie's world, I would suppose that "Democratic establishment" is anyone who opposes him.

[DanTex]

24. The way the term is used is to refer to insiders like James Carville.

That's the way the media uses the term, and the way Bernie uses the term. And it's the only way I've ever heard the term used.

[PatSeg]

39. So would that include Democratic insiders like

Jimmy Carter, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Adam Schiff, etc. They are all "insiders". As a matter of act, I'm not sure Bernie has ever encountered a Democratic politician that he liked. He didn't even like JFK.

[Garrett78]

46. Yep. And everyone here damn well knows that's what he means.

But they gotta make political hay while the sun shines.

[Squinch]

36. Oh, do tell. What have you named us? By what shall we be known?

[jmg257]

21. Ah - good. Do YOU fear Bernie being the Democratic candidate in the GE?

[PatSeg]

13. And according to most polls,

the "Democratic establishment" apparently is about 70% of Democrats. At least it is about 70% of Democrats who support candidates other than Sanders. Not a good idea to make the party you profess to represent the enemy.

[DanTex]

17. No, the "Democratic establishment" is less than 1% of Democrats.

[PatSeg]

28. Once again

by whose definition? Because right now a whole hell of a lot of Democrats are taking offense. I'm afraid Bernie is saying what he really means and that would exclude a whole bunch of Democratic voters.

[DanTex]

57. By Bernie's definition, which is also the standard definition.

Since Bernie used the term, obviously his definition is the one that matters. But the media, etc., uses the term in the same way.

And, no, a "whole hell of a lot of Democrats" aren't taking offensive. A small number of highly vocal Democrats are taking offense. Do you think Bernie's poll numbers are going to dip from this? I doubt it. I bet they keep going up. What do you think?

[dware]

63. So you've talked to every Dem in the country?

You know that only a very small minority of Dems are offended by his remarks?
Methinks your are sorely wrong, this is going to bite him in the ass.

[DanTex]

66. I've seen this movie many times before.

Bernie (or someone else) says or does something. Anti-Bernie people on twitter get outraged. Bernie holds fast or goes up in the polls. Remember the Joe Rogan endorsement? The "Bernie Bro" stories a week or two ago? It's a pattern.

But I guess we'll see.

[dware]

68. So you don't know that it's just a small minority of Dems

that are offended by his remarks?
Then why say so if you don't know?

[PatSeg]

76. Oh, I'm sure every last one!

I've sure come across an awful lot of Democrats who do find his remarks offensive and the day is still young. Not everyone has heard the remarks yet.

[dware]

77. The Truck Stop I'm at right now just outside of Portland, OR,

is sure a buzz of his comments, and for the most part, they're all negative.

[PatSeg]

80. Are you serious?

[dware]

83. Yep, even among the more conservative truckers I know,

Trumps tariffs have hurt truck drivers, and a lot are thinking of voting Democratic this year, but Bernie's antics and his supporters antics have turned them off, it's having a negative effect towards him, they will, almost to a person, refuse to vote for Bernie if he ends up as our nominee.
They won't vote for the Mango Menace, they just won't vote.

Most of my trucker friends want Joe Biden as the nominee.

[PatSeg]

85. Thank you

It helps to hear real on-the-ground reactions to what is happening. I think you may have witnessed something that is happening all over the country. Trump has turned off a lot of voters, but many of them just won't vote for Bernie. It would be going from one extreme to another.

I know I'm biased, but I honestly believe Biden is the best choice.

[PatSeg]

74. Obviously, I think you're wrong

[highplainsdem]

32. No, it isn't. You're choosing to define it that way because Sanders is attacking most of the party

and you're trying to make excuses for him.

[dware]

52. Still excusing what Bernie really means I see.

Bernie said what he said, and no trying to justify it or excuse it by you or any of his supporters is going to change that.

He dissed the Democratic Party, plain and simple and here you are trying to deflect from that.

[pnwmom]

128. Show me a link for that whopper. n/t

[wellst0nev0ter]

91. And a majority of democrats don't support Biden, Warren, Klobuchar etc

This is a dishonest argument, and you know it. Stop it.

[awesomerwb1]

16. Berners are sure racking up the points

with the usage of the Victim Card.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

18. Establishment aka deep state

I say again good luck digging out of this Bernie.

[Squinch]

38. Wait for: oligarchs, corporatists, SJWs, and much, much more! It's coming!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

101. I'm waiting for revanchist running-dog traitors to the proletariat, with a touch of

bourgeois tools of the corporatist oligarchy.

[Squinch]

138. Ooooh! I LIKE THOSE! Can I be the bourgeois tool??? That costume is the BEST!

[totodeinhere]

30. Bernie is for average working people who have been left on the sidelines.

Most of the Democratic "establishment" already has a comfortable income, a retirement plan and excellent health care. Bernie wants to see that the rest of us can have that too.

[highplainsdem]

35. Then why doesn't he sell a couple of his homes and give the money away?

[totodeinhere]

44. He would be much more effective fighting for change on a macro level on the national stage. n/t

[wellst0nev0ter]

92. And he can walk barefoot and wear a hairshirt while he's at it

These "arguments" are beyond parody.

[Squinch]

45. And what has he done in 30 years that makes you say that? What has

he done for those people who have been left on the sidelines?

I mean, I agree that post offices need names, but that doesn't seem like 30 years worth of work, and that benefits oligarchs and corporatists just as much as it benefits the "average working people who have been left on the sidelines."

What's BS done, in 30 years, for them?

[totodeinhere]

48. He has been a lonely voice in the wilderness on a lot of occasions.

After all, he has just one vote. And I think that's why he is running for president so he can finally be in a position to really accomplish something.

[handmade34]

54. how did that turn out

for Ralph Nader (and the Country)?

[dware]

59. And just what do you think he can accomplish?

The Senate will still be Republican and the House will likely be R controlled also because Bernie's coattails are non existent.

[totodeinhere]

67. So says you anyway. But IMHO Bernie's revolution will attract many disaffected first time

voters who will be enough to help flip the Senate and increase our House majority. That's why I am so excited at the prospect of finally having a chance for real change. And even if he can't get everything accomplished that he wants to, at least we will have someone in office who is fighting for us.

[dware]

70. IMO, you are dead wrong on this,

if you're counting on the younger vote, they have a very poor voting record, they tend not to show up whereas, us older voters do, and the vast majority of us older voters don't want a far left socialist, who's not even a Democrat, as the President, and he'll lost the majority of Independents, without who he cannot win.

We'll know soon enough, but I can almost guarantee that if Bernie becomes our nominee, Trump will win the election and we'll most likely lose the House and any chance to retake the Senate.

[sprinkleeninow]

117. God forbid. But if for some reason due to human nature and number

screwing by Россия and their cohorts, I will cast my GE vote for him.

I dint mind him b4, but now I do.

But again, God forbid!

[Squinch]

140. Despite the fact that BS has never before attracted any numbers disaffected first time voters.

He always says he's GOING to, but when the elections come around, they just don't show up. Never have.

But suddenly he's going to pull this horde out of his pocket that will flip the Senate and increase the House majority.

Yeah. That sounds likely.

[Squinch]

62. Bwahahahahahaha!!!!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

107. During his 30 years in Congress he got a couple of post offices named.

In her 14 years in Congress Amy Klobuchar sponsored or co-sponsored 111 pieces of legislation that became law. Elizabeth Warren was the moving force behind the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

QED.

[MrsCoffee]

33. Spare me the apologist Brosplaining.

It’s been his whole fucking campaign for five years now. We have statement after statement, quote after quote of this guy trashing the Democratic Party and Democrats.

Don’t try to gaslight me and tell me not to believe my own eyes and ears.

[Skidmore]

43. This, many times over.

We have watched this for such a long while. He's just gotten better at wordsmithing to disguise his agenda. And he has more help.

[Cha]

49. Right*******ON!

[sprinkleeninow]

119. Aloha, Cha!

💙

[Cha]

137. Aloha, sprinkleen!

[uponit7771]

144. +1

[Dawgman49]

37. just posted on bernie's facebook

went on his Facebook page ,,response to his ad that he's for everybody...i noted the exception to this being we of the "democratic establishment"..pairing us with the republicans right?..he wouldn't be were he is today without the democratic establishment..is he going to own this statement or blame it on a russian bot...he's got the victim theme going...i also was surprised to see the negative comments on his own site, just the few pages i saw, only outrage i see in this is from bernie,and it is very devisive/ i support Warren and have kept my comments positive about her...have stayed away from any negative bernie stuff and would vote for him in GE, but this crap he's doing is so devisive and i hope Liz callas him on it in the debate...enough already with poor bernie

[pazzyanne]

114. "he's got the victim theme going"

That statement is so reminiscent mango mess in the White House, that it scares me.

[Me.]

41. Yes There Is And, By Choice, He's Part Of It

[JennyMominFL]

42. "Democratic Establishment"

Democratic establishment is the Left’s Deep State

[Tweedy]

50. 🤣 😂 🤣

James Carville, who has held no position of power for decades is the "democratic establishment"?

😆 Too funny!

Aside from the obvious 1960's slang which bugs me (need a "revolution" to get rid of the "establishment", how heavy man!), insulting your natural allies is just bad form.

FYI Bernie IS a member of the "political establishment" right now and has been for decades. James Carville is not. He is a democrat. He is on our side. Who else shall we kick out of our tent because they dare criticize someone's choice?

Speaker Pelosi is very much inside the so called "democratic establishment." What a worse world it would be if she were not.

You are right Bernie's thin skin isn't disloyalty. He is NOT a democrat, after all.

Nevertheless, Bernie's & his campaign's thin skin for criticism and repeated pattern of making perfection the enemy of the good is a problem-- that is if you actually want to see progress in this country.

[snowybirdie]

51. Lord!

James Carville??????? A name out I've the long distant has been past. Democratic Establishment is Schumer, Pelosi, Schiff, etc. (PS saw Carville last week too. Looked half dead and senile)

[Gothmog]

53. Good luck in getting sanders platform adopted in real world

Link to tweet

[brush]

55. So tired of this guy attacking the party he wants the nomination of. What a foolish thing to say.

[fallout87]

58. All the knives are out for Bernie

I guess that's what happens when you are king of the hill. BERNIE WONT BE STOPPED. Super tuesday here we come!

[dware]

64. Do you write for the Onion?

Because this sounds like something from the Onion.

[rzemanfl]

143. Can you quantify those knives. How many exactly?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[empedocles]

60. When the real news should be traitortrump''s latest crime,

instead, we have dozens of BSbs bickers, with hundreds of replies, and 100's of views - hear on DU and MSM.

[Progressive dog]

61. Everyone knows that the Democratic establishment

sets the policy for the Democratic party. The party is kind of like a club that we choose to join. That club has won lots of elections by working together, that is the reason for the party's existence. If you elect people, you can move the nation in the direction that the vast majority of "Democrats" believe in. The Democratic party does not need a revolution.

[krissey]

65. The biggest joke of all is Sanders is the very definition of establishment in all ways.

[irisblue]

71. Tex, 65+ responses in under an hour

Is poking the bear on an early Saturday afternoon, to mix metaphors.


"Another thing we all know is that the "Democratic establishment" doesn't refer to the whole Democratic party, or to rank-and file Dem voters like me. ".
Maybe you should post your definition of Democratic Establishments.

[Squinch]

75. If we AREN'T the Democratic establishment, I hope he will name us Vanessa. I always liked that name.

But I can't wait for Dan to tell me who I am. 😳

[JustAnotherGen]

73. Disappointed

Why the word *outrage*. There are a lot of us in the establishment who are disappointed.

You don't get to tell us what to do or how to think.

[Loki Liesmith]

82. Why should we spare you anything?

[wellst0nev0ter]

93. The Left vs Establishment (GASP!)

The Left: We should have Medicare for All

Establishment Dems: NO!

The Left: Okay, Green New Deal—

Establishment: NO!

The Left: Free public university education—

Establishment: NO!

The Left: Wow, your values don't match ours, it's almost as if we're in two separate parties.

Establishment: HOW DARE YOU IMPUGN DEMOCRATS!

[questionseverything]

129. well said

[Sloumeau]

94. Well...

As for the number of articles that say "The establishment does not want Bernie Sanders", how exactly are the people who write those articles deciding who is and is not the establishment? How exactly is anyone supposed to know who is and is not the establishment?


You wrote:

Another thing we all know is that the "Democratic establishment" doesn't refer to the whole Democratic party, or to rank-and file Dem voters like me. The establishment consists of people like James Carville, who recently called Bernie a "communist."

How exactly do we know that it does not refer to the entire Democratic Party or rank and file Dem voters but does consist of people like James Carville? Where are we supposed to be getting this definition from?

[SunSeeker]

96. He said the Dem establishment (the DNC) is trying to "stop" him. That is false.

They gave him a stage that he would never have as an Independent and even changed the superdelegate rules to help him.

The fact that the vast majority of DEMOCRATS want someone other than Bernie is not evidence that the Democratic establishment is out to stop him.

[Mr.Bill]

98. When unity is what we need to take this country back,

establishment and revolution are two words that need to be banished from this campaign and election.

[Nitram]

99. "Bernie isn't being "disloyal" when he publicly criticizes the party that he is running for?

I thought we were all in agreement that any Democrat would be better than Tump. Dissing the party is just doing Trump's work for him.

[yaesu]

100. yep, it's like biting into a BK whopper & screaming that its not Filet Mignon. nt

[rzemanfl]

102. I keep hoping for five. n/t

[dominic savio]

103. Right on right on

The Party's constant knee jerk reaction to every thing Bernie only confirms what he is talking about.

[musette_sf]

104. .....

[EveHammond13]

105. I'm pissed as hell about it and it was a dick move on his part.

[Ponietz]

106. Spare me the lack of situational awareness.

That comment on the same day we learn the IC warned him of Russian help a month ago?

[SidDithers]

108. According to Bernie, Planned Parenthood is establishment...

So there’s that.

Sid

[blue cat]

109. No break to you.

It really is upsetting that he bashes the party that will be expected to be behind him if he wins the nomination.

[Sunsky]

110. Maybe the "Democratic establishment" wants a Democrat

And not an Independent who caucuses with the Democrats to be the party's nominee, not too far-fetched IMO. BS filed to run as a Democrat solely for the general election and if not elected will run as an Independent for the Senate. I'm with the "establishment" on this one.
Win, lose or draw Sanders will always find something to gripe about. Dude so far you're ahead, stop complaining. It gets tedious So much for building morale.

[krissey]

111. Please spare me the dismissal of an insult.

[DallasNE]

112. "Hostile Takeover"

That is how Joy Reid describes Sanders tactics. And she makes a very valid point. It is not Sanders policies as much as it is his tactics, with backing from Moscow, that are at issue.

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/02/22/joy-reid-slams-bernie-plotting-hostile-takeover-instead-of-uniting-democratic-party.html?fbclid=IwAR1ZHeA6aQtmXpbySWMfnrcBXB4UJFmYDx2LzI6-YSJWjdkbPMu-fhwn-lg

[DanTex]

121. Same Joy Reid who brought on a phony "body language expert" to smear Bernie?

Link to tweet

[DallasNE]

122. So A Smear Is Your Response?

That just reinforces my point about tactics being the problem.

[DanTex]

123. Smear? What? I'm just pointing out that Joy Reid obviously doesn't like Bernie.

So whatever she writes about him, people should understand, is coming from a place of disliking Bernie.

[DallasNE]

141. You Smeared Reid For Having A "Phony" Body Language Expert

Now, I didn't see that segment so I don't know the context and whether she "smeared" Sanders or not. But I stand by my previous comment quoting Reid in the link I provided. Rather than answer my point you went into attack mode and that is one of the issues heard most often about Bernie supporters. They go on the attack. Now I was a Sanders supporter in 2016 that voted Hillary in the general but I am still undecided this time around. His recent Tweet sure rubs the wrong way though. And that was Reid's point. Oh, he had a strong win in Nevada so congrats.

[DanTex]

142. Here's the clip. You can judge.

Link to tweet

[johnthewoodworker]

113. Quick, someone call Hillary for the democratic establishment. Then we'll be good.

[TeamPooka]

120. The comment is offensive because I'm sick of this false equivalence about both parties

fuck that shit.
Both parties are not the same.
the last three years proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt
Bernie should try more unifying rhetoric.

[jmg257]

124. Well darn it if they didn't just mention the Democratic Establishment on CNN - LOL!

Of course in relation to how well Bernie is doing.

[Scotch-Irish]

125. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

I'm so frikkin' sick and tired of people putting down the very populist and very popular message that Bernie Sanders is giving our voice to.

And anybody that thinks the media isn't putting that message down, just probably doesn't believe in we the people. Because we the people is his message.

[liberal N proud]

126. I beg to differ

If you are going to be part of the party, enjoy the benefits the party offers, you are part of the establishment. That is unless you are only using the party.

He needs to fully become part of the party or go away and do this on his own. The party provides tools for candidates but reqires something in return.

[musette_sf]

135. + 1

[New Breed Leader]

127. The Dem establishment doesn't want Bernie to be the nominee

....but Russia does! And so does Trump. Hmm, I wonder why...

[polichick]

131. "Establishment Dems," along with RepubliCONs are the reason...

Americans were desperate enough to fall for a con man as vile as Trump.

“Establishment Dems” made sure Big Pharma was protected when they held the WH and both houses of Congress, and made a million excuses about why a public option was asking too much. “Establishment Dems” are all in on wars for profit, and have no problem using taxpayer money to fund their contractor friends (and sometimes family). “Establishment Dems” dragged ass on issues from climate change to lgbtq rights - holding their fingers to the corporate winds instead of leading.

I could go on and on about what I learned in over 40 years as a Dem activist - but I’m beyond sick of “establishment Dems.” They drop a few more crumbs for the American people than the establishment of the other party, but often put corporate donors first. And that’s why Bernie said what he did - the truth is not always pretty.

[greatauntoftriplets]

136. OMG, please tell me this is satire.

[ehrnst]

139. The irony....

"Spare me the outrage..."

(outrage-filled post)