Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forum"We Have To Deny The Elderly Care Or 'Go Bankrupt," Bloomberg's Health Care Stance, New VIDEO
Feb. 21, Daily Kos. A video has resurfaced showing Michael Bloomberg discussing healthcare costs in what looks like somebodys living room. In the clip, Bloomberg is explaining that healthcare costs are so high that we are looking at bankrupting our country. There are some tough decision to be made, according to Bloomberg, one of which is denying care to the elderly.
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG: If youre bleeding we have to stop the bleeding. If you need an X-ray, youll have to wait. All of these costs keep going up. Nobody wants to pay any more money, and at the rate we are going, healthcare is going to bankrupt us. So not only do we have a problem, so we gotta sit here and say which things were gonna do, and which things were not. Nobody wants to do that. [...]
If you show up with prostate cancer, youre 95 years old. We should say Go and enjoy, have a nice one, youve lived a long life. Theres no cure. We cant do anything. A young person we should do something about. Society is not willing to do that yet. So were gonna go bankrupt...
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/21/1920987/-New-video-shows-Bloomberg-s-stance-on-health-care-We-have-to-deny-the-elderly-care-or-go-bankrupt?utm_campaign=trending
*WATCH*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=2ljebC5K3Jc&feature=emb_logo
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)Bloomberg can't stop telling the reality of life. Neither of them are edifying.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)and seniors aren't driving them into bankruptcy. Bloomberg typifies the disturbing, libertarian garbage coming from some vacant elites.
What's next, only people with strong incomes, the right occupation, race or whatever will be allowed healthcare?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)taxes, and tax increases is what gets you voted out, in the US. It's completely the wrong attitude but it's ingrained in the American psyche, unfortunately.
To Bloombergs point about the 95 year old, that's happening everywhere. They treat them with antibiotics in hospital, and if it doesn't clear, they do seem to let nature take its course.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Prostate cancer in the very old is rarely treated. It is slow growing and many men of advanced age have prostate cancer without even knowing it (as has been show on autopsies)
I'm not voting for him, but this is another example of a headline not actually reflecting what was said or the gist of what was said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
If anything this should open up a nationwide conversation on when it's time to let go. Americans are afraid of death and would rather push every intervention, thinking only of the quantity of life and not quality. At 95 intervening would greatly diminish the quality-and possibly the quantity, considering the treatment in this case could kill faster then the illness.
I believe Americans have a problem with understanding death with dignity. In the case of the 95 year old the conversation should lead to a talk about death with dignity and how that can be accomplished.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)with prostate cancer, be serious. It's targeting one specific group, the elderly and laying the groundwork for discrimination and rejection of others also need.
What other 'criteria' for health care would people have to meet if determined by heartless business hacks and ultra wealthy financiers like Bloomberg?
Mike is not delivering his spiel to the group because it's 'already the norm' or an insignificant matter. They aren't novices and he knows what he's saying is highly controversial. Pfft
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
delisen
(6,044 posts)Information about best practices is available on the internet on reputable sites.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
delisen
(6,044 posts)Repeating and spreading a lie about what someone said is just wrong and hurts older patients.
Bloomberg said prostate cancer which is appropri ately treated in older men with watchful waiting because most will die of some other condition and interventions can be worse than just monitoring
As for stopping bleeding and not doing xrays-this is exactly the treatment i have gotten for both a knee injury and a foot injury- my physician acted according to protocol in not ordering unnecessary tests.
If you listen to what you have reposted from Finkelstein's tweet you will hear how he misquoted.
I hope you will do the right thing and retract your post.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)from everyone associated with the criminal American healthcare system. Bloomberg needs to put his billions behind Joe Biden and move on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)We'll have to do the same whatever health system we pursue. It's the only way to be viable.
Besides, Bloomberg is talking about Prostate cancer in a 95-year-old man. Heroic treatment -- ie, butchering or frying him with chemicals or radiation -- isn't usually warranted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden