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elleng

(130,964 posts)
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 03:51 PM Apr 2019

The attacks on Joe Biden will harm boys and girls alike: We all need decent, affectionate human touc

'Nobody should be touched in a way they don’t want to be, man or woman. But while sexual or aggressive touching is clear violation, a lot of everyday physical contact is just part of being human. Vilifying Joe Biden for literally reaching out to connect leads to labeling all spontaneous physical gestures of consolation, affection or support as wrong or “creepy” — and we should think about what that means.

It’s easy to set up a standard that every touch infringes on another’s inviolable space — which forces suppression of any instinctive gesture as possibly offensive. Are we now going to claim someone made us uncomfortable every time they touch our arm? Anyone who has taken a New York City subway at rush hour has had people waaaaay closer.'>>>

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The attacks on Joe Biden will harm boys and girls alike: We all need decent, affectionate human touc (Original Post) elleng Apr 2019 OP
if joe cant give one a simple heartfelt hug then who can? samnsara Apr 2019 #1
Joe can and anyone can. It is my belief that a lot of the touching democratisphere Apr 2019 #6
Whether you approve or disapprove of Joe's behavior, clearly it's not just about a simple hug. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #9
whoa... that is jumping the shark.. Peacetrain Apr 2019 #15
Haven't you listened to the allegations of the many women who've come forward to give their account? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #16
that is sick Peacetrain Apr 2019 #17
Listening to women who even Joe HIMSELF says we & HE absolutely SHOULD listen to? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #18
When I see the neighborhood junior high kids walking to the bus stop in groups and every single one NoMoreRepugs Apr 2019 #2
I'm concerned too; elleng Apr 2019 #4
My point exactly. My granddaughter is almost 4 - we frown on using the ipad as a video NoMoreRepugs Apr 2019 #7
They won't have to worry about over population. GemDigger Apr 2019 #10
Bill maher has been saying something like that from the beginning of the metoo question everything Apr 2019 #3
Unfortunately the touching issue has gone to the extreme fueled by democratisphere Apr 2019 #5
And they continue to do so.... crimycarny Apr 2019 #11
It is pathetic. Never thought I'd see the day for this kind of democratisphere Apr 2019 #12
Excellent article! Thank you for sharing. Several years ago while in Edinburgh, we were cornball 24 Apr 2019 #8
Don't worry it's not going to stop. I don't think folks realize just how much we actually do touch UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #13
Jon Stewart was right. He told Begala and Carlson "You are hurting us". IluvPitties Apr 2019 #14
 

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
1. if joe cant give one a simple heartfelt hug then who can?
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 03:52 PM
Apr 2019
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Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
6. Joe can and anyone can. It is my belief that a lot of the touching
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 04:03 PM
Apr 2019

issue is politically motivated noise.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
9. Whether you approve or disapprove of Joe's behavior, clearly it's not just about a simple hug.
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 04:55 PM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
15. whoa... that is jumping the shark..
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 07:45 PM
Apr 2019

seriously.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
16. Haven't you listened to the allegations of the many women who've come forward to give their account?
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 07:56 PM
Apr 2019

If you seriously think this whole controversy is about Joe giving women a "simple hug," then you might wanna think twice about acusing someone else of "jumping the shark"!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
18. Listening to women who even Joe HIMSELF says we & HE absolutely SHOULD listen to?
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 08:16 PM
Apr 2019

So, tell that to JOE!! I'm sure he'd be surprised to hear you claim he's sick to say that.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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NoMoreRepugs

(9,435 posts)
2. When I see the neighborhood junior high kids walking to the bus stop in groups and every single one
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 03:55 PM
Apr 2019

of them is texting on a phone - I assume with a person walking with them - I can only wonder where we will be with all this bullshit correctness in the next 10-20 years.

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elleng

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4. I'm concerned too;
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 03:58 PM
Apr 2019

my grandkids are 3, 4 and 5, and another is due to be born in July.

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NoMoreRepugs

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7. My point exactly. My granddaughter is almost 4 - we frown on using the ipad as a video
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 04:11 PM
Apr 2019

nanny when we go to a restaurant with her like so many others do - she's involved in the conversation and does just great. I've paid for her to be in Montessori for nearly two years to have her develop interpersonal people skills - not sit in front of a 70inch screen watching YouTube little kids toons all day. I have a sore neck from shaking my head so much these days.

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GemDigger

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10. They won't have to worry about over population.
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 05:20 PM
Apr 2019
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question everything

(47,486 posts)
3. Bill maher has been saying something like that from the beginning of the metoo
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 03:56 PM
Apr 2019

and when some attacked others who expressed a similar view.

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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
5. Unfortunately the touching issue has gone to the extreme fueled by
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 03:59 PM
Apr 2019

the MSM and a MOB mentality. This kind of thinking will result in humans becoming even more physically isolated from one and other. Stop making nothing into something that it isn't.

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crimycarny

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11. And they continue to do so....
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 06:51 PM
Apr 2019

I watched a bit of Joe Biden's speech this morning and there was one light moment where he hugged one of several kids he brought on stage. Before he hugged him he made a light-hearted joke about having gotten permission to hug them. The joke was said in more of a self-deprecating way, sort of like "I've listened and I'm being careful", not out of sarcasm or making light of the women who have come out about being made to fill uncomfortable. It was a non-moment.

But, of course, our media had to see this as an opportunity to continue to fan the flames.

CNN:

"Biden jokes about physical contact after accusations he made women uncomfortable".

ABC News:

"Biden brushes off accusations with a joke". (WTF???? Biden didn't "brush off" anything!)

CBS News:

Joe Biden: "I had permissions to hug" Union Leader

Really? Seriously??? I saw the press conference myself. Joe wasn't "brushing off" or joking about anything. This is his first speech since the accusations; he hugs two people and--before doing so--he says "I got their permission". Of course, he has to say something because he knows everyone is thinking and talking about his hugging, etc. Imagine if he hugged those people and didn't say anything? There would STILL be headlines but this time they'd say something like "Joe Biden continues with his physical contact despite accusations"

Ugh...

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democratisphere

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12. It is pathetic. Never thought I'd see the day for this kind of
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 06:59 PM
Apr 2019

undermining BS Thanks for checking in with your take on this injustice!

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cornball 24

(1,477 posts)
8. Excellent article! Thank you for sharing. Several years ago while in Edinburgh, we were
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 04:23 PM
Apr 2019

walking back to our hotel from a restaurant. There was a group of teenage boys and girls walking together and there was not a cell phone to be seen. They were talking, laughing and interacting. Now I think how sad it is that I have to recall that particular scenario to get a bit of normalcy.

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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
13. Don't worry it's not going to stop. I don't think folks realize just how much we actually do touch
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 07:01 PM
Apr 2019

each other.

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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
14. Jon Stewart was right. He told Begala and Carlson "You are hurting us".
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 07:18 PM
Apr 2019

The media, from CNN to Fox News, are hurting us.

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