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highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:45 PM Feb 2020

John Dean: "So Russia wants a race between Sanders and Trump. They probably want Tulsi Gabbard as

Bernie’s running mate. And no question they will help Moscow Mitch get re-elected. What a monumental mess Trump has made of America! He will let this happen. Putin’s USA."



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John Dean: "So Russia wants a race between Sanders and Trump. They probably want Tulsi Gabbard as (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2020 OP
K&R, Sanders should've denounced Russia's help long ago, how did waiting to do so help America? uponit7771 Feb 2020 #1
Sanders voted against russian sanctions AlexSFCA Feb 2020 #2
I've been wondering about those votes for a long time. Why did he vote against the sanctions? nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #3
he knows the importance of internet propaganda AlexSFCA Feb 2020 #5
Bern enid602 Feb 2020 #7
That he did. Cha Feb 2020 #18
the only solution is one which Bernie will never do Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #26
Hey, Sanders attacks Dems from the left point of view, Trump from the right. apcalc Feb 2020 #4
Tulsi as well. nt sheshe2 Feb 2020 #6
Sorry John Dean but you underestimate Bernie Sanders, he would never get Tulsi to join him. Perseus Feb 2020 #8
Yup, that's exactly what's going on Democracy vs. fascism. bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #9
Putin doesn't care who's the nominee, he just wants to sow discord among democrats jg10003 Feb 2020 #10
Which begs the question, what is the purpose of such discord? bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #11
Take a look at DU McTwisty Feb 2020 #12
My understanding is that Putin wants Bernie to be the nominee ehrnst Feb 2020 #31
My opinion on Putin and Russia Dan Feb 2020 #13
Like Putin gives a shit if the Russian economy tanks Moderateguy Feb 2020 #15
Oh bullshit. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #17
BS, clearly Putin think Trump will beat Sanders with a little Russian help... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #27
of course he cares who is the nominee Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #28
yes he has made a mess of this country! subana Feb 2020 #14
With the help of stupid people. we can do it Feb 2020 #22
Retweeted. Cha Feb 2020 #16
Gabbard would absolutely be his running mate. betsuni Feb 2020 #19
100% kcr Feb 2020 #23
Bernie/Tulsi is the ticket JPR is pushing Zorro Feb 2020 #20
Of course they are. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #25
Personally, I really don't care Aussie105 Feb 2020 #21
Kick dalton99a Feb 2020 #24
No, they don't want Sanders vs Trump. He is a vehicle to sow discord. Just like last time. apcalc Feb 2020 #29
They do want him Qutzupalotl Feb 2020 #30
A glorious winning ticket dalton99a Feb 2020 #32
 

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
1. K&R, Sanders should've denounced Russia's help long ago, how did waiting to do so help America?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:47 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
2. Sanders voted against russian sanctions
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:52 PM
Feb 2020

just think about it for a moment. He is fully aware that he needs putin’s help to win the nomination. Tulsi is guaranteed to be his running mate. It’s clear as day.

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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
3. I've been wondering about those votes for a long time. Why did he vote against the sanctions? nt
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:54 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
5. he knows the importance of internet propaganda
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:55 PM
Feb 2020

and he needs the troll farm that putin is planting. He voted against Magnitsky Act! The single most important foreign policy decision of the decade. Make no mistake, the moment BS wins the nomination, russian propaganda will turn sharply against him to guarantee trump’s win. Expext wikileaks, email leaks, private phone conversations, etc.

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enid602

(8,620 posts)
7. Bern
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:49 PM
Feb 2020

And Bernie also said the Russia investigation was a waste of time.

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Cha

(297,323 posts)
18. That he did.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 03:03 AM
Feb 2020
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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
26. the only solution is one which Bernie will never do
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:48 AM
Feb 2020

withdraw...let Warren continue the progressive march without the taint of Russia.

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apcalc

(4,465 posts)
4. Hey, Sanders attacks Dems from the left point of view, Trump from the right.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:55 PM
Feb 2020

What’ s Putin not to like??

The discord is perfect!!!

Chaos!

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sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
6. Tulsi as well. nt
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:13 PM
Feb 2020
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Perseus

(4,341 posts)
8. Sorry John Dean but you underestimate Bernie Sanders, he would never get Tulsi to join him.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:52 PM
Feb 2020

What a stupid thing to say. The rest about Moscow-Mitch and helping trump is true, but the Bernie stuff is beyond silly.

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Undecided
 

bucolic_frolic

(43,188 posts)
9. Yup, that's exactly what's going on Democracy vs. fascism.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:52 PM
Feb 2020

Elections skewed in one direction before a vote is even cast, all in favor of dictators worldwide who want to stamp out democracy so they can stay in power. This was the same battle fought in World War II. Democracy vs. fascism.

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jg10003

(976 posts)
10. Putin doesn't care who's the nominee, he just wants to sow discord among democrats
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:55 PM
Feb 2020
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Undecided
 

bucolic_frolic

(43,188 posts)
11. Which begs the question, what is the purpose of such discord?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:59 PM
Feb 2020

it's not a picnic to him or Trump, It's so Trump will 'win'. It's about power, and eliminating democracy. Dictators love it.

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McTwisty

(39 posts)
12. Take a look at DU
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:17 AM
Feb 2020

That’s what Putin wants... wide scale.

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Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
31. My understanding is that Putin wants Bernie to be the nominee
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 11:01 AM
Feb 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287553959

Care to explain on how that works with your statement on how DU is "what Putin wants?"

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Dan

(3,570 posts)
13. My opinion on Putin and Russia
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:30 AM
Feb 2020

Is destroy, totally destroy the Russian economy.

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Moderateguy

(945 posts)
15. Like Putin gives a shit if the Russian economy tanks
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:10 AM
Feb 2020
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Undecided
 

W_HAMILTON

(7,869 posts)
17. Oh bullshit.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 03:02 AM
Feb 2020

There is a reason he is propping up divisive candidates like Sanders and Gabbard and not true, through-and-through Democrats like Biden, Warren, Klobuchar, etc.

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Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
27. BS, clearly Putin think Trump will beat Sanders with a little Russian help...
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:50 AM
Feb 2020
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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
28. of course he cares who is the nominee
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:50 AM
Feb 2020

he cared in 2016 and he cares in 2020.

Sowing discord could be done numerous ways...
Supporting one specific candidate is a choice beyond discord.

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subana

(586 posts)
14. yes he has made a mess of this country!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:40 AM
Feb 2020

& every GOP member who has covered Donnie's ass is also to blame!!

Every one of them should have to get a tatoo on their foreheads that says 'traitor'!! Either 'traitor' or 'russian' would be acceptable to me!!

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we can do it

(12,189 posts)
22. With the help of stupid people.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:38 AM
Feb 2020
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betsuni

(25,539 posts)
19. Gabbard would absolutely be his running mate.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 03:10 AM
Feb 2020
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kcr

(15,317 posts)
23. 100%
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:37 AM
Feb 2020

I don't get how others do not see this. He will pick her in a heartbeat. I get a lot of pushback on that, but maybe after yesterday's WaPo revelation and his ridiculous tweet people will realize the truth.

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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
20. Bernie/Tulsi is the ticket JPR is pushing
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:41 AM
Feb 2020

But of course...

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MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
25. Of course they are.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:47 AM
Feb 2020
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Aussie105

(5,403 posts)
21. Personally, I really don't care
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:08 AM
Feb 2020

whose brain power is steering the US elections.
Could be Russia, could be China, could be some 400 lb teenager sitting in his grandmother's basement in Outer Mongolia, for all I care.

The question should be, what to do about it?
How to protect the next election from external skulduggery, how to ensure it actually reflects the wishes of American voters?
(Leaving the electoral college out of that equation, of course.)

So not so much who to blame, or why, but what to do about it.
And the answers to that question seem vague and long in coming.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
29. No, they don't want Sanders vs Trump. He is a vehicle to sow discord. Just like last time.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:57 AM
Feb 2020
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Qutzupalotl

(14,317 posts)
30. They do want him
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:05 PM
Feb 2020

because he will be the easiest for Trump to defeat.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=556109

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dalton99a

(81,516 posts)
32. A glorious winning ticket
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 11:27 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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