Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWe cannot actually know precisely why Russia is doing what it's doing.
Perhaps they feel Sanders is actually stronger than many think and intentionally acted in such a way that their actions were outed to delegitimize him.
Maybe they think he is the weakest candidate.
The only thing I know for certain is:
A. They want Trump
B. They want chaos
Seems like a lot of us already have B covered. It might help if we avoid panic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
boston bean
(36,223 posts)Too late now. His motives for silence will and should be questioned.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Nothing needs to be questioned.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boston bean
(36,223 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)But I want to know why he didn't say anything about it at the time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I'm going with Occam's Razor ... he believed, for whatever reason, that he was not supposed to ... ongoing investigation and all that.
Regardless, I understand why he'd choose not to say anything, even if he DIDN'T think he was obliged to stay quiet about it.
To what benefit is it to him, or indeed to anyone, to divulge that information?
What would you expect to change, that did not change, by him not saying something 1 month ago?
And how exactly do you imagine him 'saying it'?
"I want everyone out there to know that Russia is apparently trying to help me win, I would assume because they think I can't beat Donald Trump! I'm telling Russia now to STOP interfering in our Democracy!"
And then Trump cries 'BULLSHIT!' and the media hand-wring over whether or not it really happened, or is Bernie lying, just taking shots at Trump?
Saying that also puts the idea in people's mind that he's the weaker candidate.
It also opens the door to discussion over whether Russia really DOES like Bernie.
He's put in an no-win position by this reality is the truth.
Just like Putin wants it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
denem
(11,045 posts)End of story.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boston bean
(36,223 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)It's entirely possible--and in fact probable--that the IC told him that the information, or at least the specifics, would reveal US sources and methods so he couldn't discuss it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Russia is using. CNN reported that it's more than just social media.
Also, I don't agree that "we cannot know." I think... a lot of smart people are putting this puzzle together very rapidly (as if we needed their assistance), and it's a lot easier to understand than most David Lynch movies.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Horizens
(637 posts)putin's bitch, trump, is where putin wants him and wants to keep him. sanders can't beat trump and putin knows it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Thank you. I didn't want to be quite so blunt.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Im sure Russia is aware of this. They might very well be hedging their betswhich is where the chaos comes into play.
We should not panic and we should not change our affiliations or support based on this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Butterflylady
(3,549 posts)They n...e....v....e....r get it wrong.
( lots of sarcasm)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)It's amusing every time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
2naSalit
(86,804 posts)Especially when idiot's team is paying for tainted polls.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Republicans have been running against "socialism" non-stop since immediately after the 2016 election. This is the fight they and their crony capitalism partners, the Russians, want and think they can win. From the Russian point of view, having the American people caught in a battle between polar opposites is destabilizing and therefore also to Russia's geopolitical advantage.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
It seems very obvious.
Though I also think there's the bonus that Sanders is super divisive, and Russia wants to sow division in the US.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Qutzupalotl
(14,334 posts)Russia considers Sanders friendly to their interests.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287535178
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Butterflylady
(3,549 posts)Why do you think he got where he is?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)We dont know though. At least, we dont know yet.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
apcalc
(4,465 posts)His campaign is an asset to Russia.
Everything should be carefully examined in light of this disclosure.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dlk
(11,578 posts)Lets not be naive here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RockRaven
(15,013 posts)in the primary helps get Trump a second term. The task before us is to determine if that is a correct assessment or not.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lanlady
(7,135 posts)Russia seeks to keep Trump in office and toward that end, it wants to divide the opposition to him. That's Bernie's role.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)A strange assessment.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rzemanfl
(29,570 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rzemanfl
(29,570 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
apcalc
(4,465 posts)Who are 99% of the divisive posts about?????
It ain't no mystery!!!!
Create division and anger. Mr Sanders is their unwitting tool.
They know it and now he knows it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dawg day
(7,947 posts)So they're trying to help make that happen for him.
However, they are tricky, so it could be they are doing this more to give Trump a "both sides" excuse- They'll be putting everything into helping Trump, and a tiny ineffective bit into Sanders, and then Trump thinks it won't be an issue for him. "They helped Bernie too!"
And of course any REAL president would say it didn't matter who was "helped," it's anti-American and an act of war and do something.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JDC
(10,135 posts)all we have to do us read the threads on our very own website tonight....we, as a country are being manipulated. Russian mission accomplished.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,752 posts)Putin wants drumpf to win and chose to back who he perceives as the weakest candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,619 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Qutzupalotl
(14,334 posts)Russian state media says Trump should wish the best of luck to Bernie Sanders, whose candidacy brings nothing but joy for the incumbent. They describe Sanders as "an ideal opponent who can be taken down easily by Trump."
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,619 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden