Bernie needs to stop his false equivalence between Democrats and Republicans.

[pnwmom]

He doesn't deserve any Democrats' votes when he seems determined to destroy the party.

We have Democrats in Congress in vulnerable districts across the country, who are HURT by Bernie's selfish attempt to link both parties' "establishment" as a way to build his brand.

From the ad he's pushing all over FB right now, asking for money.

We are taking on the Republican establishment.
We are taking on the Democratic establishment.
We are taking on billionaires, super PACs, the corporate media, and the whole damn 1 percent..

And he claims he's taking on super PACS. That's a joke, since he set up Our Revolution, and Our Revolution -- which is not transparent -- is still backing Bernie. ANYBODY could be donating money to help Bernie through Our Revolution and we wouldn't know it because it's dark money.

https://apnews.com/345bbd1af529cfb1e41305fa3ab1e604

Shadow group provides Sanders super PAC support he scorns

The campaign finance act says groups “directly or indirectly established” by federal officeholders or candidates can’t “solicit, receive, direct, transfer, or spend funds” for federal electoral activity that exceeds the “limitations, prohibitions, and reporting requirements” of the law. Those limits are currently set at $2,800 for candidates and $5,000 for political action committees.

Our Revolution has taken in nearly $1 million from donors who gave more than the limits and whose identities it hasn’t fully disclosed, according to tax filings for 2016, 2017 and 2018. Much of it came from those who contributed six-figure sums.

It won’t have to publicly reveal its 2019 fundraising until after this year’s presidential election. And money it raises between now and then won’t have to be disclosed until the following year.

“Any entity established by a federal officeholder can only raise and spend money under federal contribution limits for any activities in connection with a federal election,” said Paul S. Ryan, a campaign finance expert and attorney with the good-government group Common Cause. “Our Revolution was undoubtedly established by Sen. Sanders, is subject to these laws — and is seemingly in violation of them.”

[paulkienitz]

1. But that message may be exactly what he needs to win purple independents in November.

[HerbChestnut]

2. This.

[UniteFightBack]

3. Yeah but we're in the primary now where he is trying to 'connect' with Democratic voters.

That is a person who can bring unity? Sorry no other Democrat has done this and I don't like it.

[pnwmom]

6. How is that message going to help Democrats running for Congress? nt

[frazzled]

9. Right, nihilism is always a great political strategy.

ni·​hil·​ism | ˈnī h)ə-ˌli-zəm

2 a: a doctrine or belief that conditions in the social organization are so bad as to make destruction desirable for its own sake independent of any constructive program or possibility
b capitalized : the program of a 19th century Russian party advocating revolutionary reform and using terrorism and assassination

[Tweedy]

13. 1000+

[Tweedy]

12. Bashing the Democratic Party

Have you not noticed that every time we bash the Democratic Party, the kleptocrats win? Maybe not the election, yet, those already very fat cats win.

The Republican Party is long gone; it has transformed into a wholly owned kleptocratic entity.

Conversely, as recently demonstrated for ALL to see in the impeachment trial, the Democratic Party has persisted in resisting kleptocratic takeover

Why wouldn't we, the American people, reward the democrats for that?

Alternative facts are not necessary to win.

Rhetoric from the 1960's, "the democratic establishment", "revolution," how heavy, man!, is most assuredly not necessary to win. Most folks are simply not stuck in a time warp.

Are their democrats who bug you?

I have a reminder, his name was Senator Ben Nelson of Nebraska. He was a democrat; today, Nebraska (an otherwise sane state) has two GOP senators.

What was Senator Nelson's horrible "democratic establishment" offense?

The cornhusker kickback.

What was that? It saved the people of Nebraska the cost of Obamacare while conveying the benefits.

"Wait!" Some cry, "that is bad!"

Is it? Ben Nelson made a deal THAT BENEFITED HIS CONSTITUENTS, not himself.

The GOP makes deals that BENEFIT THEMSELVES & THEIR DONORS, not its constituents.

I'd take Ben Nelson over any GOP senator any day.

We need to help the Democratic Party stand up against this kleptocratic onslaught! Stabbing the Party in the back helps not one person in this struggle.

[TwilightZone]

14. He has to win the nomination first.

Burning bridges generally isn't a good way to consolidate support in the event of a contested convention.

[Cha]

16. nah

[NurseJackie]

17. Telling people that the Democratic party is "corrupt" is not a good selling point.

[still_one]

4. Exactly. We need someone to unite the party, not divide us. No other Democratic candidate is even

suggesting this false equivalence

[PatSeg]

8. Democrats need some real proven leadership

Sanders is an effective activist, but hasn't demonstrated real leadership, the kind a president needs. Putting a leash on some of his staff would be a good beginning.

[Cha]

18. What a concept.. Unity.. and wasn't cindy nixon pushing

BS as the "unity" candidate just the other day?

[still_one]

20. Amid boos because she voted for Hillary. If it wasn't so sad it would be

laughable the hypocrisy

[Cha]

21. I know..

[dalton99a]

5. Like a fucking broken record

[floppyboo]

26. Agreed. This topic has been hashed over to death here.

[krissey]

7. I agree. He burnt his bridges with the Democratic base. Don't hit me up the head in insult,

while blackmailing me to vote for Sanders or you will take your vote to Trump.

[nobuddy]

22. Vote Blue No Matter Who

[Progressive dog]

10. He might not be determined to destroy our party

it could just be incidental to some grand plan that we don't understand.

[lanlady]

24. a grand plan hatched in Moscow

that we should understand all too well!

[Perseus]

11. Bernie this, Bernie that, and Bernie this too, and Bernie that too

When is it going to stop?

[TwilightZone]

15. Well, this is the Primaries forum.

And he's a candidate in the primary.

Feel free to ignore or trash the threads or find something else to do with your time if they're so tiresome.

He's the perceived front-runner. This is what happens to front-runners. Happened to Biden. Happened (briefly) to Warren.

If he wins the nomination, this will seem like a cakewalk compared to what's coming up. Might want to get used to it and buckle up.

[redqueen]

19. You are apparently unaware of just how many people were sickened by

- the Iraq war
- the repeal of Glass-Steagall
- the Telecommunications Act
- NAFTA

etc. etc. etc.

You can call it "the establishment" or whatever you like but many, many people are sick and tired of 'us too, but not as much'.

Unless y'all are now going to tell us that the 10k+ people showing up at Bernie's rallies are just Russian plants.

[pnwmom]

28. You seem unaware that Bernie would call Barack Obama part of the "establishment"

and Nancy Pelosi, and also Elizabeth Warren -- a self-avowed capitalist.

Bernie himself is firmly part of the establishment; he's been an incumbent for many years. He just wants to pretend that he isn't.

You seem to be also unaware that he voted against holding gun manufacturers to the same product liability laws that affect other manufacturers. Many people have been harmed by guns.

[lanlady]

23. Bernie needs to drop out and go away, period

before he costs us the election and another 4 years of Trumpian hell.

[KewlKat]

25. THIS!

Now that it’s been confirmed that Russia is helping him, he needs to withdraw. The seed of doubt has been planted to once again question the outcome.

[floppyboo]

27. Hard to keep up with all the new 'ignores'. Desperation is not endearing.

[ehrnst]

30. Desperation - you mean like comparing Bernie to a rape victim because the press is commenting

on his tweet, and the fact that Russia is supporting him?

Like that?

[KT2000]

29. that is what he will do

if president. Sanders is a lone wolf - that is his personality. He will always set himself apart from others and slam Democrats as much as republicans. That is what he does. The Democratic party stands for a lot and as we have seen, more than a few have earned our respect in the face of trump.

He is a purist who sets himself above, just like fundamentalists of other stripes.

[ehrnst]

31. I think he will have no more success at delivering on his promises as POTUS

than he has as Senator.

[KT2000]

32. +1