More than anything else I am just so tired of Bernie

[Jersey Devil]

He has been running for President since 2014 non-stop, traveling the country for over 6 years to get nominated. And the best he can do is something around 30% of the vote? Call me unimpressed.

[FarPoint]

1. I too have Bernie Fatigue....

I'm yawning right now!

[DemocracyMouse]

75. I'm sure you mean well and you're not really trying to sound like an agent of Putin or Bloomberg

[FarPoint]

103. No, I'm definately neither of the identified agents you describe.

Just honest feelings being expressed...I don't believe I am alone...

[Blue_playwright]

85. I love Bernie (and the other dems)...

It’s the handful of really over the top, hateful followers he has that turn me off and make me worry. If he doesn’t get the nomination, I fear they will protest vote en mass and we will have tthe pay for it.

I also think that the small group of folks make it easy for bots and trolls to infect discussions and poison the well.

Fall in love now, fall in line in November.

[joost5]

141. +1

Fall in love now, fall in line in November.

To all the "protest voters" who voted for Jill Stein, Harambe, or not at all in 2016 and give us 4 years of this Trump hellscape... please reconsider doing the same this year and actively work to support THE DEM CANDIDATE whoever that might be.

[tecelote]

123. You're so sick of Bernie you decided to post about it?

There aren't enough Bernie bashing posts already? You need more?

[FarPoint]

131. Please work on your reading comprehension skills..

I will help you with my message...I said I was fatigued....not sick...

[tecelote]

140. Nice insult!

[walkingman]

2. Quit worrying about Bernie and worry about Trump - he is a huge threat to our Democracy.

[handmade34]

8. the reason I worry about Bernie

IS because I worry about trump

[walkingman]

13. I understand what you are saying but Bernie would be far better than Trump - no question. That is

what everyone needs to understand. Everyone has a right to their choice no matter what we as individuals might think.

[jmowreader]

45. Any Democrat would be "far better than Trump."

Yes, even Michael Bloomberg.

However, I really don't want to see Bernie on the GE Ballot, as I believe he is the candidate Trump could beat the easiest.

[bdamomma]

81. Bernie has the young

people, we do not want to isolate anyone now, we are there and we need to stop autocracy.

Everyone needs to vote, no one can sit this one out.

[Jersey Devil]

91. But young people do not vote

I wish they would but it never seems to happen. My worry is that there are plenty of older people, who DO vote who are like Tweety and freak out at the word “socialist”.

[bdamomma]

96. Socialism

is giving the people adequate healthcare and education opportunities.

Reserve socialism is being practiced by the extinct GOP who steal from us and give to themselves.

They hated FDR for implementing these programmes to help people esp. the middle class everyone had a fair shot.

[Jersey Devil]

104. I agree, but

It will not be easy to convince a lot of people who grew up equating socialism to communism to accept

[bdamomma]

115. Educate is the key

but we have over the top propaganda being spewed all over the place to the sycophants.

[Blue_playwright]

89. A toaster would be better. Nt

[pink]

43. If Bernie is the nominee

Then we get Trump for another 4 years. Bernie only has 30% of the Democratic votes and absolutely no votes from the ex Trump voters.

[handmade34]

48. yes

"If Bernie is the nominee... we get Trump for another 4 years" ...to be fair Bernie would probably get the majority of D votes in the General and will get some of the "never-trumpers" but it won't be enough to win... especially the swing states

[tobefree]

58. Well I'm impressed

You’re using your ”fair” crystal ball. Non the less, a crystal ball, and with so much detail!

[JudyM]

146. What are you basing your assumption on that he won't get ex-trumpers?

It was widely reported that a lot of people voted for trump because they liked his populist message (even though it was a con job) in contrast to Hillary’s. Sanders has a highly parallel, but actually authentic, message.

And it’s a hard truth, but a lot of people voted for trump because they disliked Hillary. Those who disliked her are more likely to vote for Sanders, ironically to us, more so as she continues dissing him.

When I was working GOTV in the GE, I spoke to countless independent voters who had wanted Sanders to be the candidate.

[Squinch]

3. Me too. Every bit of drama within the party always has the same guy at the center of it.

[Historic NY]

66. +1

[democratisphere]

4. Hopefully it won't last much longer.

[evertonfc]

5. hes not a Democrat but

entitled to our nomination. You should know that. This is his last shot. He will either lose in primary or to Trump. America, outside the coasts, dosent fancy Democratic socialists. If he wins our nominstion we will forever be known as socialists. We will pay a heavy price for it going forward.

[Jersey Devil]

16. Not on my coast in North Carolina

If anyone thinks Bernie has a snowball's chance in Hell of winning NC in the general election I have a lovely bridge they might want to buy in southern Manhattan.

[berksdem]

145. PA will go to Trump as well...

[zeusdogmom]

39. He is not entitled to the nomination even if HE thinks he is

I don't care if it is his last shot. He may well indeed win the nomination (oh please God, no!!!) but he is not a good candidate for beating trump.

[Mike 03]

6. It's exhausting. This morning his voice came on CNN and I just couldn't listen

and I switched to MSNBC and it was there too so I switched to the BBC. I'm worried about how annoying I'm finding him, somebody I adored four years ago.

[gollygee]

10. That's where I am too

I thought he was great four years ago and now I find him tiring.

[yuiyoshida]

95. I think I am there too

I supported him four years ago..than I realized he had the same speech over and over again. I will support him in the Primary if he is our nominee..but in the first election, no. I don't know who I will vote for, as yet.

[NYFlip]

107. I agree

I campaigned for him four years ago in the primary.Now I find him annoying

[Evolve Dammit]

40. I'm worried that you're worried about how "annoying" he is. What changed? Wasn't Bernie.

[relayerbob]

50. In my case, that's the exact problem

He hasn't changed. At all. It's as if he has learned nothing from all that's happened in the last four years

[Evolve Dammit]

56. The issues are the same. What would you like him to do?

[relayerbob]

60. Quit attacking the "Democratic establishment"

Act like he knows a team is.

Learn why he can't get his support above 25% of the party he claims to represent.

Learn how to compromise and negotiate

Quit yelling so damn much

Tell the relatively small percentage of his loud-mouth supporters to knock it off. And mean it. With no false equivalencies

I could go on for quite a while.

I supported him in 2016 until he went to scorched earth tactics. That's really bad ... hypocrisy is the lowest form in my book

[PatSeg]

67. This!!!

Thank you!

[Cha]

121. Mahalo, relayerbob!!!

[Squinch]

93. The issues are completely different. This is like no other

election in any of our lifetimes.

[Evolve Dammit]

109. Just accelerated. Health care (lack thereof; biggest cause of bankruptcy), stagant wages (decades),

corporations not paying ANY taxes, Citizens United, soaring for-profit college tuition, attack on lower and middle class via tax "cuts' for the extremely wealthy, unchecked "Unitary Executive" President, ignoring climate crisis, undermining our institutions (all of them), breaking climate, trade, landmine, nuclear agreements, dissing our allies. I agree that having a Putin puppet with zero moral compass makes this one have more meaning, but most of these issues have been around a long time.

[Squinch]

110. How do people not see what is going on in front of their faces?

[Evolve Dammit]

112. Panic much? When did Dems become such wimps?

[Ingersollman]

136. Same

here. I voted for him in the last primary, then Hillary in the general. I'm a vote blue no matter who person who votes every time. By the time the last general rolled around, I was glad he lost the primary. His appeal had nose dived once I started really thinking about his plan to move us in the right direction. I think he really doesn't have a plan.

That's why I'm all in for Liz. My wife and I voted for her this morning. If she doesn't make it, I will be disappointed, but will

VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!

[Anaxamander]

143. I felt the same about Elizabeth Warren's voice

but luckily she's getting less airtime since plummeting in the polls.

[BlueJac]

7. I have wondered how a Independent is always using the...

.Democratic party to run for President is the right thing to do.

[Talitha]

17. I've wondered the same thing.

Why does the Democratic Party allow this?

[wryter2000]

26. Because

Bernie would do more damage running as an independent. That would guarantee a Republican victory

[Talitha]

46. Makes sense, thanks!

I seem to remember something like that happening...
Was it Ross Perot?

[wryter2000]

83. Yup

In that case, it helped Bill Clinton

[choie]

106. I'm wondering how a republican

is doing the same thing..

[FoxNewsSucks]

9. Well, there's an original criticism.

Good thing Biden's never run before, right? And that he's always been so impressive.

[Jersey Devil]

12. Tell me when Bernie stopped running for the 2016 nomination

Never.

[tiredtoo]

11. How long has Joe been running for president? NT

[milestogo]

14. I am so sick and tired of the Bernie bashing.

[Jersey Devil]

15. karma

Yeah, so sad. You'd think everyone would just fall in line because right now he is the front runner. Of course, his failure to do just that in 2016 after Hillary had already won the nomination should be forgotten, huh?

[milestogo]

18. Major projection alert.

[Jersey Devil]

20. I suppose it is only relevant if the shoe is on the other foot, huh?

Two primary election cycles in a row the same guy screws up party unity and it means nothing. Sure

[Rilgin]

23. What is screwing up Party Unity is posts like yours.

Joe Biden your preferred candidate has been running for president or discussing it for more than 2 cycles. This is his third shot at it and he has never obtained traction in any race. However, noone attacks your right to support Joe Biden as a disunifying action but somehow supporting Bernie is disunifying.

More important is the fact that it is very usual for candidates to run again if they were the also runner in the last election. Think Hillary Clinton. She ran in 2008 and did not win in a contentious primary and then ran again in 2016. I assume you would not think her running again screwed up party unity? However, this is the usual process so don't get out of whack cause someone runs who other people support and think they are disunity. Support your own candidate, don't tear down others and other supporters. Then you will not be guilty of what you are accusing others -- screwing up party unity.

[AverageJoe]

90. Agreed 100000 percent! n/t

[Cha]

125. Exactly karma

[pnwmom]

37. I just saw a Bernie ad on my FB feed where he was bashing the Democratic establishment.

Well, I took it personally because Bernie has been making it clear for years that he means voters like ME.

In short, anyone who doesn't support HIM.

And I am angry because ALL the focus should be on getting Trump-the-destroyer out of office, but Bernie wants to rail on his never-ending complaint about the Democratic establishment. This is an all-hands-on-deck moment and Bernie is riding out the storm below-deck, blaming the Democratic crew that's trying to keep the ship of state from capsizing.

[relayerbob]

51. Exactly!

[pnwmom]

57. Like his non-transparent Our Revolution isn't shady.

He gets funding from a dark money pac and then complains about the Democratic establishment.

https://www.commoncause.org/press-release/common-cause-files-complaint-against-pro-bernie-sanders-group-our-revolution-for-violating-soft-money-ban/

Today, Common Cause filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) alleging reason to believe that Our Revolution, a nonprofit political organization established by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) in 2016 and now supporting his 2020 presidential campaign, violated the federal ‘soft money’ ban. Sen. Sanders has been a longtime critic of super PACs and so-called “Dark Money” groups. The complaint documents that Our Revolution has solicited contributions explicitly to elect Sanders president, received contributions far in excess of the applicable $5,000 contribution limit and spent funds in connection with federal elections, including current voter mobilization efforts supporting Sanders in Iowa.

Under the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, an entity directly or indirectly established by a federal candidate or officeholder is not allowed to “solicit, receive, direct, transfer, or spend funds in connection with an election for Federal office” unless the “funds are subject to the limitations, prohibitions, and reporting requirements” of federal law.

According to Our Revolution’s tax returns showing contribution amounts but not contributor names, data compiled and first reported by the Associated Press, from 2016 to 2018 Our Revolution raised almost $1 million dollars from contributors who gave in excess of the applicable $5,000 contribution limit, including multiple contributions of between $100,000 and $300,000. Our Revolution has not disclosed any of its contributors to the FEC, as required by federal campaign finance law.

“Americans expect and deserve to have our campaign finance laws enforced and they expect political organizations to abide by the law, regardless of their political views,” said Paul Seamus Ryan, Common Cause vice president for policy and litigation. “The facts surrounding Our Revolution, including its founding by Sen. Sanders, its receipt of six-figure contributions, its failure to disclose donors to the FEC, and its political spending in Iowa and elsewhere, point to a clear violation of the federal soft money ban. Common Cause is a nonpartisan organization and we work to hold power accountable regardless of party affiliation or policy positions. It is critically important that the soft money ban be enforced, or outside groups founded by candidates will become a commonplace means to evade contribution limits and disclosure requirements.”

[Tumbulu]

73. no, he amplifies the message of Rush, etc

and he has never had a job of his own. He has only been a politician and such a winey one at that! He has never been able to support himself, he is a mooch! I really don't like him.

[LisaM]

78. That is so well put.

And since he considers anyone with a D besides their name the Democratic establishment, as far as I can tell - making no distinction between any of them - it's really hard not to take it personally.

[pnwmom]

101. Yes. To Bernie, EW's part of the establishment -- though he's been a Senator longer than she has

and her policies are as progressive as his -- but more achievable.

[LisaM]

102. Well, she wasn't so much before she got into the race.

Now she's a threat.

[CentralMass]

19. Hatred is.bad for the soul.

[Jersey Devil]

21. No hate, just fatigue

Long before this primary season I became sick and tired of hearing the same old stump speech that Bernie has been giving since 2014. It didn't work then and it isn't working now, at least for me.

I am for Joe, but if he fails I could easily switch to Amy or Elizabeth or Pete or even Mike. Sure, I'd vote for Bernie, but it would be with absolutely no enthusiasm.

[CentralMass]

22. Try using a keyword block to ease yiur fatigue.

[PatSeg]

74. Yes, a lot of it is Bernie fatigue

I used to listen to him on the radio every Friday morning and I really liked him. Now I can barely listen to him talk. The same old stump speech delivered with the same indignation and anger. It is exhausting and sometimes even depressing, hardly inspiring or uplifting.

Now it seems like he is dividing the party yet again and it feels like it is even worse than 2016.

[Cha]

24. Tell Me About It.

[sobenji]

25. Ditto

[Gore1FL]

27. I can't see the advantage in starting and participating in a thread with a topic you are sick of. nt

[Catch2.2]

64. Agree!

[Paladin]

28. The antics of the BernieBros in 2016 turned me against him.

If, God forbid, it comes down to a Bernie vs. trump contest, I will of course vote for Bernie. But I won't be happy about it---there won't be much of America remaining if trump gets another four years.

[Jersey Devil]

32. Same here, with a twist of lemon

I'd vote for Bernie as well, but I doubt I could get myself fired up for GOTV on his behalf

[Horizens]

38. Agree

Assuming trump is the republican nominee, I’ll vote for sanders. After that I will go to confession for the first time in 50 years and sentence the Creator to an eternity of Hail Mary’s for having forced me to make such a choice. That night I’ll watch in horror as sanders loses and drags the down ballot to astronomical losses. The following morning I’ll listen to the bernie bros whine and cry and blame Hillary and/or Bill and/or Chelsea and/or the DNC.

Good News/Bad News

Good News: I don’t think sanders will be the nominee.
Bad News: I’m going to have to listen to the bernie bros whine and cry and blame Hillary and/or Bill and/or Chelsea and/or the DNC.

[PatSeg]

84. Yep, playing the victim

is getting a bit old already. There are so many real things to be outraged over and I'm tired of the way Bernie and his staff treat the Democratic party.

[Paladin]

108. Nicely put. (nt)

[Cha]

124. Wow..

[question everything]

29. If this were someone else, he, and his supporters, would demand that he not be paid

his Senatorial salary while is barely there.

[Lonestarblue]

30. I'm not here to bash Bernie, but I do worry about his choice of VP.

Given that Bernie is ahead in the polls, when can we get a list of possible VP choices (and from other candidates as well). As much as I despise Trump, I would really have to think twice about a Sanders-Gabbard team. Has anyone heard rumors about possible VP picks? I think Joe would go after Stacey Abrams. I don't know about the others.

[Ellen Forradalom]

31. Yeah I'm over him

n/t

[Jersey Devil]

35. I wish Amy would catch fire

I like her the best of all of them. So why am I for Biden? Early on he looked like the best one to take on Trump and win. If he falls in SC that will change for me and I will vote for Amy on Super Tuesday. I am not voting early in NC because I want to see what happens in SC. Nevada not so much. Caucuses are dumb.

[Ellen Forradalom]

42. It's early yet

And stranger things have happened.

[NJCher]

33. no one is forcing you to be here

or to watch the news.

I will admit to trump fatigue and I have pretty much shut him out. I feel a lot better having done so. You can do the same with Bernie. Don't just come here and complain: act on your own behalf.

In mass communication, one doesn't want the message to be all over the place. What is needed is a single, focused theme. We have a big problem with inequality in our country and that is what Bernie addresses. His focus is an asset because for every person out there who is tired of it, there are 20 who haven't been paying attention.

If you got the message, great. Tune out. Mission accomplished.

[redstatebluegirl]

34. Chuck Toad was just on making it sound like Bernie was our nominee no matter what.

NBC/Wall Street Journal poll was quoted, I changed the channel like I always do when he comes on.

[Evolve Dammit]

36. So sad you're burned out on the debate over the future of our country. I'm unimpressed.

[Jersey Devil]

44. Bernie sounds like my Mom's Woody Woodpecker record

When I was a kid the first record I ever played on my own was my Mom's Woody Woodpecker Song, a 78 rpm. Sounded great until I played it a few hundred times and then it got scratchy and hard to listen to. That's what Bernie sounds like to me - a tired Woody Woodpecker.

[Evolve Dammit]

59. Bernie is hardly Woody Woodpecker, the Warner Brothers animated cartoon. Nice try.

The American public has no attention span and the issues have not changed, but are accelerating. His messages are just as clear as they were then, but the urgency is greater. It sounds like you're just tired and bored of the message. I'm tired too, but not bored. This country is worth saving.

[Jersey Devil]

65. Then Roadrunner maybe?

Maybe he should look to another company for his dynomite other than Acme

[Squinch]

97. You keep saying the issues haven't changed. Where have you been living?

Have you noticed the country falling apart?

[relayerbob]

41. Same here, I was just thinking that

The sad part, which would be funny if it wasn't so scary, is that he, or at least, thinks that his almost fixed 25-28% is somehow "pulling ahead". In fact, if there was only one moderate that everyone would agree on, he wouldn't even be in the race at this point. The pollsters keep splitting the oppo numbers into more and more pieces. His numbers are half of what they were in 2016, but he looks better in theory, because he can eke out wins in broadly contested small states. Even combined with Warren's numbers (which would not all go to him, by any means), he has been losing badly. Good thing for him, half the Democratic party he rails against, decided to tun this time.

If his "revolution" was actual, he would've walked into the race the front runner by far, and he wouldn't have to be trading barbs with the Bloombergs of the world. Let's face it, 70+% of the party would prefer anyone, even a small town mayor with no experience, billionaires or former Republicans to Sanders.

IF he gets the nomination, I'll vote blue, but man, this is getting really old/

[PatSeg]

76. Very old indeed

I've seen this movie before and it didn't end very well.

[polichick]

47. But you're not tired of the guy on his THIRD run for prez?! lol

[Jersey Devil]

52. Sure, but Joe got out when he lost

Bernie never stopped for one second. Reminds me of Sinatra's hit about the ant that couldn't move a rubber tree plant

[Jersey Devil]

54. Biden popped in and out 3 times, short stories

Bernie is more like War and Peace, seems never ending.

[Nanjeanne]

55. I'll bite. Your unimpressed.

[Jersey Devil]

61. So tell me how Bernie is gonna win North Carolina

That's what I need, someone to lead the ticket to more Dem representation in a state like mine which is so gerrymandered it is ridiculous. Moved here in 2016 from NJ. People here still fly the Confederate flag and shoot guns in their yards for fun on Sunday so they can blow up Tannerite targets.

Obama won here and was close the second time. You think you can convince NC voters to elect a nominee who calls himself a socialist?

[Nanjeanne]

68. Why would I tell you something you have already decided? You are unimpressed. I have no idea if

Bernie could win NC. I do think he is in a great position to win WI, MI, OH, PA. Trump won NC by almost 175,000 voted against Clinton. Right now Biden and Sanders are close in NC. Time will tell.

[NurseJackie]

62. Bernie fatigue... and fatigue of the nonstop smears, attacks and lies against the Democratic party.

I'm simply NOT motivated to support anyone who attacks and denigrates the party that I love. I know that I'm not alone in my feelings about that either.

[Catch2.2]

63. Threads like these...

Will get Trump re-elected.

[Jersey Devil]

69. So we should all be nice and quiet?

and let Bernie coast to victory, with something like one third of the Democrats supporting him? Sorry, no can do

[Catch2.2]

116. Why don't you

try making a case for Biden instead of trying to tear down Sanders?

[mikeysnot]

70. Don't bother

they are just wallowing in misery...

[Hassin Bin Sober]

88. Yep.

And it makes us stronger.

[pnwmom]

105. Bernie's disparagement of the Democratic establishment could cause us to lose

the Presidency, the House, and the Senate.

[Pacifist Patriot]

130. Threads like these won't be seen by 99.999999% of voters.

How exactly is this supposed to get Trump re-elected?

[Bob Loblaw]

71. I'll vote for Bernie if he's the nominee

And if he wins I promise to stay off his lawn so he doesn't have to point at me and yell at me to do so.

[grantcart]

72. Incredible that he had the biggest head start and his

Support is half what it was

[brachism]

77. Honestly, I am tired of the 'only Biden can win' people...

I have nothing against Biden personally. He seems like a nice guy, but he is no Obama. For me, he simply isn’t inspiring; he is status-quo. I find many of his supporters' annoying, especially those who push false narrative that "Biden is the only one that can beat Trump.” Super Tuesday is in two weeks and we will see where the chips fall.

Just my two cents.

[Liberty Belle]

79. It is a crowded field and no other candidate has done better, percntage wise,

in this election. So you think someone drawing even less than 30% is a better bet? Based on what?

[Tumbulu]

80. but my issue with him is that he reminds me of all those guys wanting you to take "mercy on them"

to be polite about it. We had another blunter term for it back then.

I could not put my finger on it for the longest time. But it came to me the other day, when I read about how he got evicted for running extension cords to steal electricity from his landlord. Oh yes, one of those kind of guys. To pure to work for a living. Pure enough to steal.

[OneCrazyDiamond]

82. But man do people talk about him.

Vote D in November.....who ever that is.

[totodeinhere]

86. That's still better than the previous front runner could do. n/t

[elleng]

87. 'More than anything else,' REALLY???

[Bettie]

92. OK. He's not my choice

but 30% of the vote in a field of say, 6 serious candidates is pretty good.

It is very different than 2016 where there were two candidates.

And there have only been two states that have voted thus far. Two.

[LeftTurn3623]

94. Sorry your unimpressed

But there is a lot of people to choice from

If you want to talk about being unimpressed I would look at your candidate of choice.

[Cha]

147. ouch

[TryLogic]

98. I sort of have old white guy fatigue, and I am an old white guy.

On the other hand, not living in or near NY, Bloomberg is actually a breath of fresh air. He and his advisors are looking pretty clever so far. Unlike Trump, he has actually been successful at more than just getting his name on buildings in over sized letters. It looks to me as if he can make things happen.

Bloomberg + Klobuchar might be a very interesting ticket. Two people who really get things done.

[yaesu]

99. Biden has had his share of running for president and well, its never worked out so unimpressed. nt

[njhoneybadger]

100. Bernie is the monomaniacal Captain Ahab of presidential candidates

[Jersey Devil]

113. I am leaning more towards Hemingway

The Old Fisherman and the Sea is very Bernie

[potone]

114. That is exactly the way that I feel about Biden.

He has run for president twice before, and now, when it is clear that he is slowing down mentally, he is running again for no reason except his own desire to become president. He has no new ideas, and he is out of touch with the concerns of young people. They will not vote for him, and he will not address adequately the crises that our country is facing, from student debt to income inequality to the greatest crisis of our time: climate change. Whatever one may think of Bernie as a candidate, he has motivated young people to get involved politically because they see him addressing their issues.

[CalFione]

117. Bernie fatigue is a real thing

Every town hall, every debate, he recites his same stump speech. He identifies a problem, vaguely says he's going to throw money at it, but never says how he'll get congress to agree or how the math adds up.

He offers every constituency their entire wish list, and how it will all be paid for, and that everyone will live in a utopia. And the younger the voter, the more they naively believe him. It's a cynical ploy by him, but it works just enough that he can get 3 out of 10 Democrats to believe him - which is enough when the other 7 are being split 5 ways.

[Jersey Devil]

119. Yep, that was the point of my OP

He has been saying the same things since 2014, offering pie in the sky with no real explanation of how he will make it happen or pay for it. Maybe, like Trump, he will have Mexico pay

[Vivienne235729]

118. I have to admit...I actually voted for Bernie in the primaries in 2016.

But when he didn't pivot to Hillary, I was really taken aback. Then I really saw some of his fringe supporters in action and that left a terrible taste in my mouth. To this day, I don't like him. And I am sick of him too. But I will hold my nose and vote for him if he's our nominee.

[Progressive dog]

120. C'mon, Bernie isn't tiring as

long as you have an off switch.

[BlueWI]

122. Tired of Bernie

but not tired of Bernie bashing threads, I guess.

So it goes.

[samnsara]

126. me too and i can never figure out what the heck he has done in Congress...

..any foreign policy experience? what committees is he on and what the heck has he ever accomplished besides amassing crowds for rallies? Im sure hes a nice person and all but his magnetic personality has totally escaped me. I see a grouchy white man a few years older than myself and thats all. Nothing special i guess and certainly nothing that would make me start cheer leading. he will get my vote if hes the nom..but that may be my LAST vote in a Democracy. Make it count.

[MFM008]

127. Ego.

I told some clown on facebook if Sanders was the nominee he has my vote but i got no time or money
For him. He told me to F off....

[shawn703]

128. As long as you fall in line and vote for him if he's the nominee

That’s what really matters

[mylightningtoo]

129. Narcissism

[eilen]

132. I understand.

One of my goals is to reapply for my passport. My old one expired some years ago but since I was not in the position for going anywhere for vacation, never mind overseas... I had let it lapse. I just want an option. Add to that, I'm scrubbing/formally quitting FB and its associated applications and wiping my computer of political images/memes, also set my browser to erase my history every night. I feel it may be necessary to go underground. I am not a psychic and am very crappy at political predictions but I do not see any scenario where Bernie wins the GE... even if Trump strokes out and meets his maker beforehand. I think I have just had it with the personality cults and the underhanded scorched earth tactics. I think I only welcome Bloomberg because he has no Effs to give and have faith that he will vett Sanders because while he did not start out to attack other Democrats, he certainly will not back down to any one attacking him.

But honestly at some point I hope the centrists in the race approach the perfect moment where they decide ok, cut bait and unite behind one of them-- before it is too late.

btw... just watching the news and see Weinberg pushing his walker is eyeroll inducing.

[Tarheel_Dem]

134. I share your pain. n/t

[Jersey Devil]

135. Where from?

Moved to Goldsboro NC from NJ in 2016. I see confederate flags and hooples shooting guns in their yards at tannerite targets on Sundays, so no one is going to convince me that a "democratic socialist" can win NC. I am afraid we will lose Cooper and any chance at getting some House seats or legislative seats if Bernie gets the nomination.

[Cha]

138. Yeah, it seems like we got the Blue Wave

House Victory in 2018 with the help of Nancy Pelosi, Moderates who flipped over 40 red seats to blue, and promising to work for saving ACA.

[Tarheel_Dem]

149. Near Greensboro, it's called the Piedmont Triad. My fear is that we will be completely taken over..

by the GOP at the state level. An unbridled, newly acquitted Trump scares me even more. Bloomberg has been very smart to only run ads so far because he has split the moderates up among the remaining candidates, and that splintering might just be enough to screw this thing up for everybody. I don't know where we go from here, but we need one candidate that the 70% of us can get behind.

[Apollo Zeus]

137. I'm tired of not having healthcare for all

I'm tired of having zero progress on the climate crisis.

[Liberalhammer]

139. Bloomberg fatigue

For me.

[Stainless]

142. This Bernie Bashing is really disgusting IMHO

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I've been on DU for about twenty years now and I'm totally fed up with this place right now. Fascist Corporate DNC Democrats will help get Trump re-elected IMHO. Denying and demonizing Socialism is just plain wrong.

[Jersey Devil]

144. Definition of Bernie Bros

True, Bernie is not a "DNC democrat". In fact, he is not a Democrat at all.

[RhodeIslandOne]

148. This is a really bizarre criticism from a Biden supporter.

I'm no Sanders fan, but this is Joe's third bite at the apple and he's barely hanging on.