Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBloomberg Senior Advisor Tim O'Brien on AM Joy
He did a good job of explaining and defending Bloombergs record AND his record since leaving the office of mayor while freely admitting that some actions - like stop n frisk - were egregiously wrong.
I give him credit for appearing this am as Joy has made it clear that she is virulently anti-Bloomberg. The appearance certainly didnt erase any standing questions, but at least (IMHO) it opened up an avenue for further discussion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mopinko
(70,138 posts)there is a lot to bloomie.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)His response to the ADA questions were bad. And just like the Harris adviser who appeared last year said about her, he insisted Bloomberg was the only one who could beat Trump. Even as he was being laughed at during the absurdity of his claim.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)What was wrong about him pointing out that litigation surrounding the issue of making taxis in NYC ADA-compliant was an issue about whether enforcement was the bailiwick of the city or the taxi industry?
Were those statements untrue?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Unlike in London, where every taxi can accommodate wheelchairs, only 232 of New York's more than 13,000 taxis are accessible.
Not so long ago, Bloomberg didn't find that problematic, particularly in light of a since-beefed-up city program that dispatches accessible taxis to wheelchair users who request them.
I think one thing that is clear is people in wheelchairs cant go out into traffic and try to flag down a cab, he said in 2011. It just starts to get dangerous."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Your response is to question that by pointing to info from 2011 & 2013.
Hmm.
Geez, can one say that Obama truly supports gay marriage? After all, back in 2004...
Can one say Amy no longer supports the idea of English as the official language of the USA? After all, back in 2007...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)At the time he was Mayor.
Obama was against gay marriage. And his administration and mind were changed, partly due to Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Obama changed on gay marriage. Bloombergs changed views he held while mayor.
Your point?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)His ADA record is rather poor.
Many people believe that past is prologue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Again, your point?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Bloombergs ADA record was poor.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Ill stipulate Mikes ADA record WAS poor. Again, your point?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)It would be political malpractice to claim otherwise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... cause he didn't know about them.
This is crazy, America deserves more than slightly better than Trump on all issues
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)not quotes (as in plural).
Youre misrepresenting what was said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... be so many quotes from MB that is so disgusting that "I didn't hear that" comes out of peoples mouths.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Can not stand her. Much too biased.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dem4decades
(11,297 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)I have not listened to Joy enough lately to know. She was ranting about Bloomberg today.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)She seems on a mission to warn Ds off candidates that she doesnt like, and aggressively so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)From the beginning. Whoever her favorite is that day the others are bad.
Is she for Bernie now? I was busy making old fashioned vegetable soup. Some one from KY told me they used ground beef.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Green Line
(1,123 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)negative about every person left. She bashed Pete and Amy for not having black support. Plus she is a homophobe so another strike against Pete. She obviously does not like Bloomberg. She bashed Biden for the crime bill. Im trying to remember if she said anything negative about Warren and Sanders. I think she is in favor of Medicare for all. I remember her taking about healthcare after she was hospitalized late last year..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
patricia92243
(12,597 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)much worse and, IMHO, has caused a lot of damage.
I liked her at first, but that wore off a year or so ago. I don't remember what she got in trouble about, but that's about the same time I lost interest in her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Like, bloodied. I like Tim, but he didn't bring his A game today.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 16, 2020, 01:26 PM - Edit history (2)
Medhis statement that neither he nor Tim have XYZ political baggage in their past (as does Mike) was effectively countered by Tim pointing out the one would think obvious fact that neither he nor Medhi were politicians who served as Mayor of NYC for 13 years, or a public figure who ran a multi-billion dollar company that employs tens of thousands of people accounts for them not having Bloomberg-level political baggage.
I felt a bit embarrassed that Medhi went for such a lame false equivalency. He usually does better. Ive never seen Medhi go for the uh-oh sip of water during a back-n-forth until today, while Tim was offering his counter.
BTW - when Tim referenced this weeks Quinnipiac poll showing that Mike beats tRump by the widest margin of all D candidates, Medhi scoffed under his breath thats simply not true. Is Medhi not aware of that poll, or was he trying to muddy the very clear waters exposed in that Q poll?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Mayor Bloomberg Wednesday brushed off the feds' effort to make more cabs handicapped-accessible - saying it would inconvenience able-bodied passengers.
Bloomberg was sounding off on a civil suit filed last week by Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara's office, which claims the city isn't close to complying with the Americans With Disabilities Act. The mayor maintained the Justice Department is off base.
"It just doesn't work in a city like ours, and I don't know that the [U.S. attorney's office] understands how people live in the city and the traffic patterns and that sort of thing," he said of street hails by wheelchair users. Champions of the handicapped immediately ripped Bloomberg's "insulting" riff.
"The mayor's completely out of touch," said Assemblyman Micah Kellner, a Manhattan Democrat who was born with cerebral palsy. "When was the last time Mayor Bloomberg used a New York City taxi or a wheelchair?"
Added Edith Prentiss of the Taxis For All Campaign: "It's a sad day for New York City when a mayor works so hard to deny people like me the right to take a taxi. It's wrong, it's indefensible,and it won't stand."
It's not the first time Bloomberg has panned accessible cabs, noting last week that hacks don't like them because they are so spacious that the drivers can't establish rapport with riders - and get smaller tips as a result.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)that he was not familiar with a quote cited to him today by one of Joys guests?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Just make one out of context statement.
He was horrible for ADA compliance, and his multiple quotes show he cared more about the comfort of able bodied people rather than compliance with the law.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dsc
(52,164 posts)and she refused to let a spokesman represent him but now with Bloomberg the rules were different. I don't blame Bloomberg for this but Joy Reid's homophobia is what lead to these different rules.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Shes fortunate her guests dont bring up her history as she is busy bring up their pasts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dem4decades
(11,297 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Does is bad mouth. She is not very considerate of her guests. Very argument over them.
I quit watching her when she had Kamala Harris on after her speech. She insisted on interviewing Kamala while Warren was speaking in the background. I tuned in to hear Warren. Kamala was her favorite then. Sharpton did not do that. He cut interviews when a candidate started speaking.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)On MSNBC because it came out she did a bunch of homosexual rants. They buried her for a while then put her on weekends.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Her AM Joy show started in May, 2016.
Her homophobic rants were revealed in 2017.
She did not lose her daytime gig due to the rants.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Shes way to bias for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)Authoritarian
Misogynist
Billionaire
Oligarch
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stopbush
(24,396 posts)But I give you a C for effort.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stopbush
(24,396 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)A racist, authoritarian, misogynist, billionaire oligarch?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stopbush
(24,396 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided