Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumMike Bloomberg has faced allegations of sexist, profane comments for decades
Link to tweet
The allegations that he tolerated a hostile office culture could undercut his ability to criticize President Trumps alleged sexual misconduct and efforts to keep such claims private.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/politics/michael-bloomberg-women/
Bloomberg should let those women speak now. What is he afraid of?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mopinko
(70,238 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The move from Biden to Bloomberg happened at light speed.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lunasun
(21,646 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Bradshaw3
(7,529 posts)The went from "it's gotta be Joe because he's the ONLY ONE who can beat dump" to now "it's gotta be Bloomberg because he's the ONLY ONE who can beat drumpf." Not only ironic and amusing but the rationale is false.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Although I would still consider Biden and am undecided, I thought I was told here only he alone could save us in multiple long dissertations on a daily basis most assuredly, but now they are silent on him or have gone Bloomberg
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)They have similar history and their hyper-masculine personas are quite similar. The only real difference is the money.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sympthsical
(9,121 posts)Theres a sense of panicked desperation.
Mikes a nonstarter for me. His racial problems and deep misogyny is anathema to what I want in a Democratic nominee.
That said, his trolling of Trump is genius and hilarious. I hope he supports our fight against Trump as much as he can.
From the sidelines - not midfield.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)and has worse sexist/racist baggage. Are the ads so mesmerizing? He's not even on the ballot in many states. Without needing money, how do we know he has people willing to work hard for his campaign because they support him to the extent the others have.
He has no federal/foreign policy experience, and that's what we need. How anyone can switch from Biden to him is a mystery. How are they getting convinced he is more likely to beat the Dotard? Where's the evidence for that?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)^^ That's an observation, not an imperative.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)I've seen lots of DUers sayign they'll vote for the nominee no matter who it is, even Bloomberg but i have yet to see a member say they will not vote for Bloomberg in the general if he wins the nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)It's part of the TOS we agreed to abide by to be a member here.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)I've seen several where the member said they won't be happy if Bloomberg is the nominee but they will vote for him this fall.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)That overides all other values and principles they may hold.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)or they feel they've made their inclinations clear without spelling them out, or are simply biding their time. The world is a big place.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wcast
(595 posts)I wont vote Republican, but I wont vote for Bloomberg. If that gets me tossed from DU, so be it. I dont post much, but I stand by my principles. I see Bloomberg as a Republican, only holding to a few Democratic tenets. I want a progressive.
I dont want Biden to be our President but would vote for him in the general.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HeartlandProgressive
(294 posts)Too much sexist baggage.
Too much Stop and Frisk racism baggage.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)Or Joe or Pete or Amy or Elizabeth? I think that sometimes in the heat of the primary campaign we might lose sight of the big picture which is getting rid of Trump at all costs. But nevertheless, we also want the best president we can get and vetting our candidates, Mike and Bernie included, should be part of the process.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)I'll gladly vote for any of our candidates who is our nominee.
Primaries are heated affairs and as you said, some may lose sight of the big picture. Getting rid of Trump at all costs.
IMHO, I think Bloomberg is our best bet in defeating Trump. Others will argue that their favorite candidate fits that description.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)who she or he turns out to be.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)I see lots of posts made by members who support other candidates who say that beating Trump is the top priority.
Best of luck to Sanders this primary but i am hoping Bloomberg!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,120 posts)I don't believe they support him at all. They're just convinced he can get Bernie out.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)With Bernie, we lose it all. The WH, the House, and many state and local races.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)He might be the nominee but he won't win the GE. You seem to think that he will poke Trump and Trump will poke back and fall apart and that will guarantee a GE win for Bloom . It won't. And that's terrifying.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)Sanders appeals to the far left. Bloomberg will appeal to everyone in between. Bloomberg will do very well in a moderate state like AZ. That's why he is dumping a ton of money here already. He knows that too. Bernie will scare republicans to get out and vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)Than Bernie appeals to people left of Bloomberg.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)Let's see how he does in the south....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)If Bloomberg is the most likely candidate to beat Trump, I'm with him.
Our dang democracy is at stake. Everything is on the table, and that is no exaggeration.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Squinch
(51,021 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Whatever will I do now?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Squinch
(51,021 posts)of support for Planned Parenthood, and his rush to prop up Planned Parenthood when the Trump administration took away millions from them.
His support for gay marriage and his participation in "Mayors for the Freedom to Marry" which pioneered legalization of gay marriage.
His initiatives to reduce domestic violence and increase the arrests and convictions for domestic crimes.
His opposition to the death penalty.
His banning of smoking in bars and restaurants in NYC.
His outspoken comments on the idiocy of Creationism.
His work to end the use of coal.
His position that we need to reduce military spending.
His work toward a path for citizenship for undocumented immigrants.
His commitment to separation of church and state.
In my perfect world, he would not be the candidate. I don't like him much. But this is not a perfect world. Far from it. He has done a lot wrong. But he has done a lot right. And he is the only one running the kind of campaign that is needed to defeat Filthy Donnie.
ETA: Another thing to like: his hot-off-the-presses labor plan, which eases some of my fears about him: https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287520746
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)if you can - I didn't know half of this about Bloomberg. Thanks
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(51,021 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)on your post!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(51,021 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)Trump or Bloomberg
Cyanide or strychnine.
An ocean's worth of past sexism and racism with an (R) or (D).
We MUST do better than Bloomberg as a party. I'm sorry, but we just have to. This is not what we're supposed to be.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
calguy
(5,334 posts)But when I compare Bloomberg to Bernie, the democratic socialist can't even come close. Bernie has accomplished very little in his life besides being a loud megaphone for socialistic causes. His actual accomplishments are pretty much non existent. So I'll pick a guy whose is an honest self made billionaire over a guy who talks a lot but accomplished very little.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)I'll pick the guy without the racist past. That's not much of an accomplishment in my book.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
calguy
(5,334 posts)You keep choosing the shortest straw.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)And it will ultimately be the straw that breaks the back of his presidential campaign. His racist past won't go away, no matter how many endorsements he buys.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Do we refuse the 2020 votes of people who voted for tRump in 2016? Does that poor past decision never go away, ergo we dont want or need their votes?
Asking for a friend.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)Stop-and-Frisk was enormous. It was a policy he staunchly defended for twelve years as mayor. TWELVE. Even when a federal judge declared Stop-and-Frisk to be unconstitutional he continued to defend the policy. That's not some "poor decision" he made in passing, or some minor, ill-conceived, momentary lapse in judgement, or some distant, hazy piece of tomfoolery from his schoolboy days. That's TWELVE years, all within the past twenty, that he perpetuated, supported and defended the wholesale civil rights abuse of mostly young POC in the city he was supposed to serve.
To me, that's unforgivable, and not something from his past that can be whitewashed with a recently purchased (D) next to his name and a few harsh words for Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stopbush
(24,396 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)I didn't think so.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stopbush
(24,396 posts)He ran as an I - just like Sanders - for his third term. Now, hes a D again.
BTW - didnt Sanders switch to I because he couldnt win running as a D in Vermont? Doesnt Sanders only slap a D next to his name when he runs for POTUS?
I was not a fan of Mike as mayor (I lived in NYC during the Koch and Dinkins years), but I have been favorably impressed with what he has done since, like providing major funding to Ds in 2018 (you can thank Mike in large part for the blue wave). And Mike has committed to spending his own $ to defeat tRump whether he is the candidate or not. Will Sanders ask Bloomberg to please stop spending his own money to help Sanders defeat tRump if hes the nominee? I doubt it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)And this guy changes sides more than Italy in a World War. You asked me a question. I answered it. So let me ask you a question along similar lines:
Considering the scale and scope of the civil rights abuses that occurred under his mayoralty, and the lengthy period in which they occurred, do you think he should just magically be absolved of any responsibility for them because he reverted to a (D) and is spreading big $$$ to settle some personal beef with Dotard?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Mike wins, we keep the House and maybe win the Senate.
Sanders loses and there goes the House.
I really dont give a shit what Mikes motivation is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)It's kinda odd that someone with a screenie like "stopbush" would be so smitten with a man who campaigned for Bush twice. Unless, of course, it's some other type of bush you're trying to stop, like Japanese Maple or Calluna.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Its a matter of who can beat tRump, period. And that aint Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,981 posts)Sanders
He won re-election three times, defeating Democratic and Republican contenders.
Caused voter turnout to double during his tenure.
Burlington became the first city in the country to fund community-trust housing under Sanders leadership.
He not only balanced the city budget, but undertook ambitious downtown revitalization projects. He even helped bring in a minor-league baseball team to the town, the Vermont Reds.
He sued the towns local cable franchise and won reduced rates for customers.
Kept a developer from turning important waterfront property into condominiums, hotels, and offices to be used only by the wealthy and affluent. Instead, it was made into housing, parks, and public space. Even today, the area still has many parks and miles of public beach and bike baths, including a science center.
Provided new firms with seed funding, and helped businesses create trade associations. He funded training programs to give women access to nontraditional jobs and even gave special attention to women wanting to become entrepreneurs.
Voted as one of Americas best mayors by U.S. News & World Report in 1987.
Bloomberg
Spent $75 million, then $78 million and then more than $100 million to win his 3 terms.
Stop and frisk
Union buster
Increased homelessness
Disgraceful eviction of Occupy Wall Street and defied court order to allow protestors back
Slams minimum wage hikes
His New Housing Marketplace program built more apartments for people who make more than $100,000 a year than for people who make less than $30,000. It defines as affordable a one-room apartment in Harlem that costs almost $1,500 a month
In Bloombergs 12 years in office, his personal fortune increased sevenfold, from $4.5 to $32 billion, while 46 percent of the citys residents now live in or near poverty.
And so much more.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Accurate comparison?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,981 posts)anti-poor, anti-school kids and anti teacher too.
And Burlington is bumfuck.
Yup. Makes perfect sense you are a supporter of Bloomberg.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Its crazy how little people value morals. The talk about respecting a diverse vote because Iowa and New Hampshire go first. Lmao seems really transparent when support is so quickly thrown to someone that has done actual harm to minorities and seems to have little regard for anyone but White men.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)Donald J. Trump is the biggest threat to this planet in my lifetime.
ANYTHING to get rid of him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Polls have been showing that consistently for months.
We don't have to settle for Bloomberg.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)HRC was a shoo-in. And look what happened...
Nope, sorry, I want someone that goes in for the kill right out of the gate.
Nobody but Mike Bloomberg has shown me that thus far. All the others are too occupied squabbling with each other.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bluewater
(5,376 posts)And suppress black voter turn out.
It will not matter that Trump supported Stop and Frisk himself, he isn't counting on black voters to win.
Trump will just want to suppress black voter turn out and Bloomberg will give him an easy way to do it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)That's all he ever does, anyway - whine - cry - bellyache, then repeat as necessary.
Voters will have to see beyond his "hammering", or else they'll get 4 more years of the same.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)with attacking Bloomberg on a policy that was started by Giuliani.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)historically discriminated against Black peoples in housing and employment.
Screw people that keep harping on stop and frisk, Trump has an atrocious record on race issues, I want someone who has shown the ability to hit back facing Trump, I will take my chances from there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Trump also actively discriminated against Blacks that were seeking housing and jobs with his businesses.
Which is worse, a ham fisted attempt to reduce gun violence in Black communities, or a person that SYSTEMICALLY discriminated against Black people simply because they were Black?
Bloomberg's campaign appears to be the best organized one in the race. I would guess that they know that Trump is going to try to demonize Bloomberg on stop and frisk, the problem for Trump is Bloomberg has a lot more ammunition in that area than Trump has.
I want someone that is fucking going to punch Trump back hard. Let Trump go after stop and frisk like some here are breathlessly saying, Trump opens up a chasm on himself then.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Trump is not counting on black voters to win.
Trump wants to discourage black voters from voting.
Trump will hammer Bloomberg on race until too many black voters say to hell with both of them.
That is why Bloomberg should not be our 2020 nominee, he simply has too much racial baggage that Trump will gleefully exploit in the General election.
In regards to Trump himself, we both are in total agreement, he is a racist piece of crap.
Thanks for the discussion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He can't. If Trump raises that issue and Bloomberg handles it correctly, Black people will crawl over burning coals to vote against Trump, not FOR Bloomberg, AGAINST Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Widespread discussion of Stop and Frisk will, in my "considered" opinion, discourage too many black voters and will help to elect Trump.
Time will tell, but I hope Bloomberg is not our nominee and that it will never come to that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That is something Hillary failed to do in 2016 and Joe Biden is not doing today. Trump brought women that accused Bill to a debate and sat them down front, Hillary regrettably ignored that and didn't hit Trump back on rape allegations against him. We just can't have that this time, IMO. If Biden or Warren don't win the nomination, I want Bloomberg as the nominee, I believe that we could win then and take all of Congress.
We just have to agree to disagree.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)I think we both made our points clearly and civilly.
We agree about Trump 100%.
Let's hope he gets defeated no matter what.
Thanks for the discussion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Put the smelling salts away, Dems. And vote for the guy who can beat Trump.
Because Bern as the nominee with be a five alarm fire for our democracy.
Our democracy can't survive four more years of Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(51,021 posts)and our rule of law go down the crapper.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Marc Lamont Hill @marclamonthill
Bloomberg said: Double the class size, with a better teacher, is a good deal for the students. This is wrong. And dangerous.
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)... that's not a weakness this year. As everyone knows, compared to the Great Pumpkin, Bloomberg is a saint.
The weaknesses described in the OP, while damning, mean little or nothing in 2020 just because of the inherent nastiness of our opponent.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Pete is a man of honor and I would vote for him in a heartbeat if it comes down to Pete or Bloomberg.
Prematurely overlooking Bloomberg's obvious flaws and baggage is not the thing to do this early in the 2020 primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)He'll be exposed. As Mayor of New York, he already has been ... plenty. I just don't think it will matter in November. Compared to Trump, Bloomberg looks like an angel.
And yes, thank you. I'd much rather vote for a more honorable nominee, but I also think that Bloomberg can beat Trump in November, no matter how flawed he may be.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)but being racist and sexist should be absolutely reprehensible and inexcusable under any and all circumstances. Whataboutism doesn't cut it here. Just because the reTHugs choose a gargoyle to lead their party doesn't mean we should do the same.
We need to be better than this. Being sexist and racist is not who we are as Democrats or what we support.
If we really aren't any better than this, what the fuck are we as Democrats? What do we stand for? If we nominate a racist and sexist on par with the one we're trying to oust from the WH, we certainly can no longer claim with a straight face that we're the party that unconditionally opposes both, can we??
So what's our new pitch if Bloomberg is our nomination: "Vote the straight Democratic ticket. Now 25% less racist and sexist than our competitors".
No thanks!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Exhibit A: Donald J. Trump (of "grab them by the pussy" fame) is the President of the United States.
Exhibit B: I can't think of one. The first one is shocking enough to prove my point.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)The drool-dripping, knuckle-dragging, gun-totin', tobaccy-chewin' racist australopithecines that make up Dotard's base?
How about we try to energize the other half of the electorate instead who aren't interested in voting for a racist and/or sexist, like POC and woman (any pro-Bloomberg Democrats here remember those two vital groups? Just an FYI, they used to be an integral part of OUR base).
Who knows, we might just win the election without having to compromise every single principle we've fought for as a party for decades.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I share those principles. I also think that Daffy Duck could beat Donald Trump in 2020. Daffy knows what the American people know, and it's a message that, I think, the American people are prepared to deliver to the Great Pumpkin later this year:
Thus, I am not terribly concerned about Michael Bloomberg's "weaknesses."
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jmg257
(11,996 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Last edited Sat Feb 15, 2020, 12:46 PM - Edit history (1)
Not many have taken that step yet here on DU.
I think for good reason.
EDIT: Whoooosh. Your comment went over my head. lol
I see what you did there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)was known decades ago, before he served as Mayor. I figured he was part of the raunchy, sexist workplace culture up through the nineties and beyond. What mitigates it somewhat, to me, is that he never seemed to have a problem promoting women and apparently was always pro-choice. Also, he raised two daughters to adulthood who are apparently good people. So, again a mixed bag, still not enough to make me refuse to support him if Amy can't go forward.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mopinko
(70,238 posts)except the parts where he did so much better than most.
tho there was a sexist corporate culture, i have yet to hear anything about his own behavior that upsets me much. smart ass comments, yeah. assaults? no. sexual misconduct? no.
but many women in high places, and however reluctant, accommodation for new moms. i keep thinking about stephanie ruhle. she has a lot of good things to say about working for him.
likewise unions. the police climate in nyc sounds just about like chicago's. ritchie daley didnt love the police union here, either. not real big on the teachers union either. both sectors had a lot of problems that the unions werent dealing w. bad cops and bad teachers hanging on for years, or given golden parachutes. those things are always contentious, and go to court, and the city takes the opposite stance to the union, and that's how laws work.
and take my word for it, if i was rich, powerful and single, i'd be getting laid at every opportunity. till i hear from some former partners that he was a shit, i'm not going to equate having a lot of sex w being a bad person.
my ears are open. but i havent heard anything yet that puts him on a different plane than most white old men.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)background than someone who's been building a political career for most of their lives. He's also old. Men in their 70's have been sexist (such as it is now defined) most of their lives without even probably realizing it. My Dad is 78, this pretty much defines him. He's a good guy and was always respectful to women, but if you took his jokes and posted them online, they would look...not good
So I'm more concerned about actions and especially future plans than I am about past mouthing-off behavior.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)that aroused me in a heartbeat, if she was not married or dating a friend or relative. Times were vastly different then, men that bedded lots of women and didn't make a mess of it were looked up to, sad but true. And even women of that era (80s, early 90s were not like today, I am honest here, I had women that I had no sexual interest in ask whether I was gay because I didn't want to sleep with them), were different. Anyone who lived in a college dorm during that time know what those places were like, workplaces were not much better.
Maybe some men that came of age when I did behaved differently, I will tell you that I never came upon such men. What disgusts me is men that were almost certainly engaging any desirable woman that gave them an eye are setting themselves off as saints now and criticizing the Bloomberg of 40 years ago like they were saints then. I honestly don't care how many women Bloomberg bedded if it all was consensual, I honestly have better things to get upset about, hopefully he remembers some of his better encounters with fondness today, like I do.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CousinIT
(9,259 posts)If there are any at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
33taw
(2,448 posts)effort. Bloomberg is appealing to some because he does not engage in attacks on his democratic opponent but rather Donald Trump. He has zeroed in on the real target. The other candidates are fighting the battle with an obsolete methodology.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I think you are right. We are in a new political era. Our candidates are all trying to win the nomination. Traditionally, they have done so by pointing out how they are "better" than our other candidates. We may be witnessing the demise of this model.
Interesting. Thank you.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)is exactly the ONLY thing that has won me over to him.
It was what I loved about Joe early on as well. Last Summer he was all about going only after trump and ignoring the shit being flung his way by his primary opponent. He was polling very high then. Correlate his decline in polls to his responding and counter attacking, they trend pretty evenly.
At least in the primary season, I'm behind the person who will go hard and viciously after Tramp. I refuse to be side tracked by any shit dug up by his primary opponents.
As long as Bloomberg keeps that laser focus going, and the other candidates keep on focusing more on each other.. Bloombers my choice.
Bloomberg 2020..
OR
ANY Democratic Party Candidate BUT Bernie 2020
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)One of My favorite bloggers, who stays mostly neutral while supporting Democratic principals, is an anti-Mens Rights Activists blogger, has been following the various cult like behavior of these guys for years. Anyway, he came out with a documented list of some pretty vile shit Bloomberg has said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)and a mesmerized and devoted cult that will vote for him.
Whomever is the best for the job of removing tRump I say, and it's not a pretty job.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)".?.?. All you need is some black who doesnt have to speak English to rescue it from a burning building.
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)He's not doing so much better than other candidates. He's not even on the ballot in many places. Why is he so "viable?" I guess there is nothing else to talk about on the TV shows.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)Y'all, he is what he is and....OH YEA! He's got a ton of $$$ that will buy him voters. The sharp marketing, branding, soundbytes from his his campaign MACHINE will all have far more impact than any sound discussion. So we can discuss all this stuff from the past, but it won't compete w short attention spans and savvy soundbytes. I may be wrong, but I just don't think most people out there are interested in any vetting process.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)only actions matter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)It's why we have slander laws.
It's why there are work place harassment laws. Verbal harassment matters and is actionable.
Go into work on Monday and verbally harass a co-worker. Let us know how that shakes out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
liberalmediaaddict
(769 posts)And skeletons in their closet. Even Uncle Bernie. Basically what's happening is Democrats are disqualifying every single candidate that's been running since 2019. That's around 2 dozen people that we decided along with the media that weren't perfect or "electable" enough to be President.
My point is that if Democrats don't stop with the circular firing squad we are going to get our asses kicked in November.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden