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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:32 PM Feb 2020

Bernie polls ahead of every other candidate in head-to-head matchup.

You know how people like to add up the numbers for all candidates except for Bernie to try to pretend Bernie is somehow "losing"? Yeah. That. Nope.

It's particularly comforting that he leads Bloomberg head-to-head by 15 points, since it's probably going to end up being Bernie vs Bloomberg.

https://news.yahoo.com/new-yahoo-news-you-gov-poll-shows-sanderss-strength-going-head-to-head-with-rivals-181522968.html


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Bernie polls ahead of every other candidate in head-to-head matchup. (Original Post) DanTex Feb 2020 OP
Hmm. PatrickforO Feb 2020 #1
This is one poll I don't expect to see covered on Hardball. n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #2
Yeah. Too bad. I'd like to see them try to spin this into the "everyone hates Bernie" narrative. DanTex Feb 2020 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #16
B-minus rated online poll, 5% simple average error, FWIW. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #3
"FWIW", which isn't much. George II Feb 2020 #6
I don't know... B- is pretty reputable, and 5 pts still has him well above Bloomberg n/t thesquanderer Feb 2020 #20
What's the value of polling one candidate against each of the other candidates individually? George II Feb 2020 #22
I explained what I see as the value... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #31
Yes he is ahead in the polls. Which leads to the next "logical" question. Autumn Feb 2020 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #15
Ironically, that's NOT a sarcastic statement @all...IT'S TRUE! Let the baseless Bernie bashin begin! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #28
Kind of a pointless poll. None of the Democrats are going "head to head" against anyone else. George II Feb 2020 #5
They always are pointless. When Bernie is favored. Autumn Feb 2020 #8
Yup, the "Bernie Standard," which requires that Bernie be bashed under any and all circumstances InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #29
On-Line Poll? BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #7
YouGov is actually one of the better on-line polls The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #11
Can the poll be "gamed?" BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #12
Not really. The way it works is you get an email asking you to respond to a particular poll. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #17
Thank You! BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #19
Also, the ones that can be gamed get rated F, not B- (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2020 #21
Bernie Sanders - The republicans' choice calguy Feb 2020 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #14
Trump and trump jr. standing up for Sanders Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #13
spin like a dervish all you want. but facts are facts. when you only get 25% of the votes msongs Feb 2020 #18
And an even greater percentage are rejecting each of the other candidates. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #24
re: "75% of the voters want someone else" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #25
Sorry but that's a dumb argument. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #30
On the subject of Sanders, this is worth reading: Garrett78 Feb 2020 #23
If it's Bloomberg v Sanders evertonfc Feb 2020 #27
 

PatrickforO

(14,592 posts)
1. Hmm.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:35 PM
Feb 2020

The FORCE is STRONG in this one!

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Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
2. This is one poll I don't expect to see covered on Hardball. n/t
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:36 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
9. Yeah. Too bad. I'd like to see them try to spin this into the "everyone hates Bernie" narrative.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:48 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to DanTex (Reply #9)

 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
3. B-minus rated online poll, 5% simple average error, FWIW.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:38 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,993 posts)
20. I don't know... B- is pretty reputable, and 5 pts still has him well above Bloomberg n/t
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:50 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. What's the value of polling one candidate against each of the other candidates individually?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:52 PM
Feb 2020

It's all hypothetical, we have five or six viable candidates all running against the others collectively, there are no "head to head" primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
4. Yes he is ahead in the polls. Which leads to the next "logical" question.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:39 PM
Feb 2020

When will Bernie drop out and endorse the frontrunner?



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Response to Autumn (Reply #4)

 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
28. Ironically, that's NOT a sarcastic statement @all...IT'S TRUE! Let the baseless Bernie bashin begin!
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:08 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. Kind of a pointless poll. None of the Democrats are going "head to head" against anyone else.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:43 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
8. They always are pointless. When Bernie is favored.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:48 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
29. Yup, the "Bernie Standard," which requires that Bernie be bashed under any and all circumstances
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:18 PM
Feb 2020

to keep him from receiving the Democratic nomination, regardless of any positive poll results that favor Bernie, or any beneficial policy positions that Bernie holds, is in full display.

The irony is that it results only in Bernie's continuing surge in the polls... I've dubbed it the "Baseless Bernie Bashing Backlash" and this very real phenomenon only makes Bernie stronger and energizes more supporters to come to his side and have his back, the way Bernie has ALWAYS had our backs!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
7. On-Line Poll?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:47 PM
Feb 2020

Clickity clickity click click click...

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
11. YouGov is actually one of the better on-line polls
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:58 PM
Feb 2020

but it still isn't as accurate as the live ones conducted by some of the universities like Monmouth or Marist.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
12. Can the poll be "gamed?"
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:59 PM
Feb 2020

If so - it’s unreliable. To be honest I really don’t know the answer to that question.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
17. Not really. The way it works is you get an email asking you to respond to a particular poll.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:04 PM
Feb 2020

In other words, it's not like the ones you see on newspapers' web sites which can be gamed by bots and multiple clicks. I've been getting their polls for years and I almost always fill them out. The way it's set up would make it hard to tamper with. Even so, the fact that the person being polled has to click on the email link and fill it out might make it a bit less reliable than a phone poll, which wouldn't take as long or involve as much effort.

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thesquanderer

(11,993 posts)
21. Also, the ones that can be gamed get rated F, not B- (n/t)
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:51 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

calguy

(5,330 posts)
10. Bernie Sanders - The republicans' choice
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:56 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to calguy (Reply #10)

 

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
26. Trump and trump jr. standing up for Sanders
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:05 PM
Feb 2020

Why would they do that hmm

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msongs

(67,443 posts)
18. spin like a dervish all you want. but facts are facts. when you only get 25% of the votes
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:04 PM
Feb 2020

that's means 75% of the voters want someone else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
24. And an even greater percentage are rejecting each of the other candidates.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:58 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

thesquanderer

(11,993 posts)
25. re: "75% of the voters want someone else"
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:03 PM
Feb 2020

By that logic, at 75%+ of voters have told ALL candidates they're not wanted. So we shouldn't put up any of them? Or put up all the candidates except the one who is liked the most?

When you've got a lot of viability candidates, plurality is usually the best anyone can hope for.

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Turin_C3PO

(14,077 posts)
30. Sorry but that's a dumb argument.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:28 PM
Feb 2020

That means that the other candidates are rejected even more by voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
27. If it's Bloomberg v Sanders
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:06 PM
Feb 2020

and neither have 1990 going into convention- Mike is nominee. The party will not willingly run a Democratic socialist. Why? Because we are not Democratic socialists and he will lose.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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