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RandySF

(59,276 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:09 PM Feb 2020

Warren on the ropes

Elizabeth Warren convened a conference call Tuesday night after her fourth-place finish in the New Hampshire primary and delivered some straight talk to demoralized staffers.

“I don’t kid myself,” Warren said, according to a source on the call. “I know that when the pundits and naysayers criticize us, I know it gets hard. And I know your jobs get hard, but these are the moments we find out who we are. ... These are the moments when we dig deep.”

The moment is an enormous test not just for the Warren team, but for the candidate herself. After betting big on the first two states and netting no delegates from neighboring New Hampshire, the Massachusetts senator is at a low point in her White House bid — and trying to find some way to come back.

She’s proceeded cautiously. But the hyperdisciplined Warren is inching toward drawing more contrasts with her opponents, after sticking to an “I’m not here to attack other Democrats” approach for most of the campaign.

In her remarks after finishing in single digits in the New Hampshire primary, Warren argued that Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders were contributing to factionalism in the party. She criticized “supporters of some candidates shouting curses about other Democratic candidates,” an apparent reference to some Sanders backers.





https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/13/warren-strategy-2020-115047

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Warren on the ropes (Original Post) RandySF Feb 2020 OP
Nevada and SC will be a good indicator of viability to both Liz and Joe still_one Feb 2020 #1
Yes. Kaleva Feb 2020 #3
Agreed griffi94 Feb 2020 #4
It's too early to count her out gollygee Feb 2020 #2
What difference does diversity make,all of our candidates are white? virgogal Feb 2020 #6
Black, brown, tan primary voters,... magicarpet Feb 2020 #11
No it's not LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #13
Care to explain how? blm Feb 2020 #21
She should stay focused on CORRUPTION. She's the only one with the lifetime blm Feb 2020 #5
We have Senator Warren to thank ibegurpard Feb 2020 #9
She keyed on Wells Fargo and all the top execs were forced out. blm Feb 2020 #10
Warren scares the banking, financial, stock brokerage, and pay day lending industries to death. magicarpet Feb 2020 #12
They know she is the ONLY one who completely understands what they do and blm Feb 2020 #14
She will eventually realize that the problem isn't factionalism or lack of contrast. Renew Deal Feb 2020 #7
She's a good person, but she can't be the bridge candidate between Sanders and the center/left. gulliver Feb 2020 #8
Are you serious? LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #15
He isn't going to win the nomination... Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #19
Elizabeth never quite came to grips with the fact that she would comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #16
She also miscalculated RandySF Feb 2020 #17
Not to mention Joe and Pete camps disingenuously attacking her for 3mths blm Feb 2020 #20
This squirecam Feb 2020 #22
South Carolina for Joe...however, I think Warren,Buttigieg and Klobachar will be out either just Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #18
She is in third place MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #23
 

still_one

(92,422 posts)
1. Nevada and SC will be a good indicator of viability to both Liz and Joe
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:13 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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griffi94

(3,733 posts)
4. Agreed
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:28 PM
Feb 2020

If she has poor finishes there, she's probly done.

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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
2. It's too early to count her out
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:14 PM
Feb 2020

We've only had states with very little diversity.

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virgogal

(10,178 posts)
6. What difference does diversity make,all of our candidates are white?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:43 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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magicarpet

(14,175 posts)
11. Black, brown, tan primary voters,...
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:06 PM
Feb 2020

.....especially black women, they take their voting responsibilities very seriously. The non-white vote is pivotable in the selection of the Demo pres candidate.

Iowa and New Hampshire are not racially diverse so their primary vote totals do not accurately measure black, brown, tan voter intent.

With the vast changes in demographics coming and racial equality issues to the forefront we need to be more inclusive to be fair and just and aware of the folks who occupy the space to our immediate and distant proximities. You are your brother's and sister's keepers - conduct your selves accordingly.

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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
13. No it's not
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:20 PM
Feb 2020

I love Warren but she is done and it’s hurting her Politically staying in.

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blm

(113,101 posts)
21. Care to explain how?
Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:11 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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blm

(113,101 posts)
5. She should stay focused on CORRUPTION. She's the only one with the lifetime
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:31 PM
Feb 2020

of knowledge and experience and strength of will to confront Trump’s corruption.

Her campaign needs to stop playing primary politics and show what the general election will look like.

Warren doesn’t want to attack other Dems and she will never be smooth doing it - she EXCELS at attacking corruption - attack Trump’s corruption NOW, or say hello to Dem nominee Michael Bloomberg.

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ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
9. We have Senator Warren to thank
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:01 PM
Feb 2020

For the CFPB. that huge accomplishment is why i e leaned toward her.

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blm

(113,101 posts)
10. She keyed on Wells Fargo and all the top execs were forced out.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:06 PM
Feb 2020

She and Katie Porter intimidate the crap out of Jamie Dimon, too.

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magicarpet

(14,175 posts)
12. Warren scares the banking, financial, stock brokerage, and pay day lending industries to death.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:18 PM
Feb 2020

Those folks are working and toiling to keep Warren's delegate numbers low so she comes nowhere close to winning the Demo nomination for president.

Bad press, innuendos, negative comments in the media will chip away at her possibilities to enter the Oval Office.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

blm

(113,101 posts)
14. They know she is the ONLY one who completely understands what they do and
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:21 PM
Feb 2020

How they do it. And that she has the will and the fight in her to expose it and end it.

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Renew Deal

(81,877 posts)
7. She will eventually realize that the problem isn't factionalism or lack of contrast.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:47 PM
Feb 2020

There is nothing she can do about the problem with her campaign.

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Undecided
 

gulliver

(13,197 posts)
8. She's a good person, but she can't be the bridge candidate between Sanders and the center/left.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:57 PM
Feb 2020

All of her progressive support went to Sanders and all of her center/left support went to the other candidates. The good news is that she can be in the cabinet. Also, her loss of support while Sanders remains at low support (around 25%) shows that there is no threat of a revolutionary socialist pledged delegate majority. Sanders is also hanging by a thread.

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LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
15. Are you serious?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:27 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders hanging one by a thread? He is easily the favorite to get the nomination

I actually think it’s pretty much over. Mostly because too many candidates can’t read the writing on the wall and hang on too long. Warren & Amy shouldn’t even be in the race any longer and after Nevada and S.C. - Pete should drop out. Past elections getting 9% in a state neighboring your home state you dropped out. It’s a joke to think Warren or Amy has any chance finishing 3 & 4th or 5th in the first 2 states. Polling low in the next states and national.

Because of the. Candidates hanging on past when they should will allowed Bernie to walk right to the nomination.

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Demsrule86

(68,696 posts)
19. He isn't going to win the nomination...
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:26 AM
Feb 2020
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comradebillyboy

(10,176 posts)
16. Elizabeth never quite came to grips with the fact that she would
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 02:04 AM
Feb 2020

have to beat Sanders in order to win the nomination. Or she figured that out too late. Instead of her wine cave campaign against Buttigieg she she would have been better off making the case of why she was a better progressive standard bearer than Bernie Sanders.

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RandySF

(59,276 posts)
17. She also miscalculated
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 02:09 AM
Feb 2020

The degree to which Sanders’s trolls would work to undercut her while Bernie made nice.

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blm

(113,101 posts)
20. Not to mention Joe and Pete camps disingenuously attacking her for 3mths
Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:08 PM
Feb 2020

last fall as they laid off Bernie during that time thinking his health would be obstacle enough.

Warren is a snooty elitist, don’tcha know? She’s the my way or the highway type.......don’tcha know?

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Demsrule86

(68,696 posts)
18. South Carolina for Joe...however, I think Warren,Buttigieg and Klobachar will be out either just
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 03:25 AM
Feb 2020

before super Tuesday or on super Tuesday...none of them will do well.

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MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
23. She is in third place
Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:23 PM
Feb 2020

Based upon delegates so far.

She is persisting.

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