Biden statement just now:

[Kingofalldems]

Link to tweet

TIME TO MOVE ON!

"It's over Johnny, it's over."

[50 Shades Of Blue]

1. Good for him!

[Amimnoch]

2. Will be PROUD to support Biden!

Never BS!

[Dream Girl]

3. Well stated. I hope this ends it right there.

[padah513]

62. You would think that it would

But we all know it won't. Some people here in DU want their pound of flesh.

[handmade34]

4. he makes me smile!

[JustAnotherGen]

5. Bravo Biden!

But - I don't believe any of the accusations.

[shanny]

10. then why is the "bravo" appropriate?

don't you think he should confront his lying accusers?

[Demsrule86]

18. No, he is too much of a gentleman.

[JustAnotherGen]

25. Agreed

And I think there is some background shenanigans going on. IE - I don't even think it was the Sander's folks that put them up to it . . . I think this is deep dark GOP shit.


They want to split us this year. We cannot allow that to happen.

[Demsrule86]

31. Could be but how would the GOP get to Flores? Or did they just take advantage of it.

[JustAnotherGen]

50. I don't know

I just know that we are good and they are evil and everything evil ultimately comes from them.


And for strong Sanders supporters - they need to remember that the GOP never got a chance to use their games, and lies, and evils against him in 2016.

We have GOT to stick together folks.

[Demsrule86]

102. Look at this

https://mobile.twitter.com/RuthieH2O/status/1113311984722665473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1113311984722665473&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F%3Fcom%3Dview_post%26forum%3D1287%26pid%3D50090

[Power 2 the People]

96. You're acting like Lucy Flores was the only one. Amy Lappos CLEARLY wasn't a Bernie supporter

According to Lappos,"if Biden truly supports women and gender equality he would step aside and support one of the many talented and qualified women running. The same goes for the other men who have thrown their hat in the ring." Based on her statement one can reasonably assume she supported Hillary Clinton over Sanders in the 2016 primaries.

Regarding Ms. Flores;In her interview with the Huffington Post Flores said not only said she hadn’t been in contact with the Sanders campaign at all, but said outright that she doesn’t plan to back him in 2020.

There are two other women who have come forward in addition to Flores and Lappos. Do I believe that Joe Biden knowingly meant to make them feel uncomfortable and had any other motives besides sincere affection? ABSOLUTELY NOT. So enough with the unfounded Bernie conspiracy theories.

[Demsrule86]

101. It turns out Caitlin and Flores know each other since 14 at the least.

And the other one clearly stated she wants him gone in order to pave the way for a woman. Saw this on another post...collusion?

https://mobile.twitter.com/RuthieH2O/status/1113311984722665473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1113311984722665473&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F%3Fcom%3Dview_post%26forum%3D1287%26pid%3D50090

[Power 2 the People]

105. I should hope that they both know each other since they've both been heavily involved in

Las Vegas Democratic politics for a decade. Therefore as prominent Nevada Democrats,both got to meet and interact with VP Biden independently.They have both been on panels together discussing women's issues. Why do you think she would be upset that Flores,someone she knew personally, was being disparaged and her motives questioned? That's why she decided to tell her own personal story.

"And the other one clearly stated she wants him gone in order to pave the way for a woman"
Last I checked Bernie wasn't a woman.

Enough of the Bernie conspiracy theories!

We need to do better.

[Demsrule86]

115. Nice.try, it is a set up,

[Power 2 the People]

124. Still think it's a set up?

7 Women Have Now Said Joe Biden’s Touches Made Them Uncomfortable

[link:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-3-more-women-uncomfortable-touching_n_5ca57f16e4b082d775e03566|]

[Demsrule86]

125. Yes...the pile on proves it just as with Franken...he touched my shoulder a little to longs...sure.

This insults women who have been sexually assaulted and is bullshit...someone set this up and for the sake of all our candidates we can't let this continue.

[JustAnotherGen]

21. Nope

I don't think he should.

He made a nice statement - time to move on.

BTW - he's number 5 on my list . . . so there's that. Solidarity.

[Tipperary]

6. Perfect.

Good for him.

[Demsrule86]

7. proud of you Joe.

[trueblue2007]

8. VP Joe Biden has been and always will be A NATIONAL TREASURE. VERY Qualified to be President

[BlueFlorida]

9. Such a sweet statement

Go Joe !!!

[writes3000]

11. Well done, Joe Biden! Taking responsibility head-on. I like it!

[Polly Hennessey]

12. He becomes more Presidential by the minute.

[Sapient Donkey]

16. Compared to what we have now, a piece of moldy bread seems presidential.

But I agree that Biden has the presidential vibe going. That whole vice president thing for 8 years must have been good practice.

[qazplm135]

59. Piece of Moldy Bread 2020!

Stale Butter as VP.

[LakeArenal]

63. Even moldy bread makes penicillin..

Well, at least that’s what my older brother said when he was smashing in my face!!

[qazplm135]

66. Penicillin 2028!

Amoxicillin as VP.

[LakeArenal]

67. You'll probably lose the anti/vaxers. 😷👻

[qazplm135]

68. All 20 of them?

Bummer.

[Polly Hennessey]

76. Too bad we cannot throw

the moldy bread in the garbage.

[Sapient Donkey]

13. Seems reasonable to me.

[RestoreAmerica2020]

14. Great response. He is such a kind and gracious person, reminds me of my father...

...always respectful, mindful.

[dlk]

15. Enough Said - Let's Move On

[nolabear]

17. Very well done. Imagine him discussing problems with foreign governments.

He is respectful, he is interested, he is willing to accommodate change, and he is confident in his commitment to being kind and caring and not stressed or defensive.

This is a leader.

[bahrbearian]

19. To bad he didn't respect Iraq'a personal space when he voted for IWR.

[bahrbearian]

24. I asume you like the Patriot Act to

He likes to claim he help author it.

[louis c]

43. When too means also, you need two o's

The Hawaiian Trump is now heard from.

[pangaia]

58. LOLOLOL

[maddiemom]

90. "to" what?

[namahage]

103. To "asume," of course,

which involves making an AS of UME.

Or something.

[cstanleytech]

29. Hmm but if came down to voting for him or for Trump I know who I would vote for and it

would not be the giant piece of shit thats currently staining the oval office.

[workinclasszero]

35. Agree

[msongs]

37. too bad tulsi actually invaded Iraq thus violating its space. nt

[bahrbearian]

47. At least she has apologized for it , Biden barely a whimper.

She has vowed not to ever send troops to War's of regime change. What Biden's position on Venezuela?

[LakeArenal]

74. Make a thread about it if it so important to you.

Instead of this pro-Biden thread.

[Tarc]

45. Whataboutism

Moving on.

[bahrbearian]

49. I know it was one little mistake, Next ,now moving on to Venezuela.

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[LakeArenal]

75. You promise to move to Venezuela ?

Oh you mean you want to talk Venezuela now?

It’s an important issue. You should start your own thread because you are off topic on this one.

[OregonBlue]

94. so would you support Biden over Trump? Trump didn't

Vote to go to Iraq.

[bigtree]

20. "my responsibility"

...

[Collimator]

26. Sorry. But There Is Only One Way To Go.

Spock for President. . . Or Data. . . But not that snippy C-3PO-- thinks he's better than us 'cause he speaks other languages besides American.

[Kurt V.]

28. lol

[Lochloosa]

78. 7 of 9 would get my vote.

[Pope George Ringo II]

87. I'd vote for Mudd, Khan, or Dukat at this point.

[Kurt V.]

27. K&R

[True Dough]

30. He let the controversy swirl for a little longer than it should have

but that's EXACTLY the sort of statement Biden needed to make. He comes across as a good person, and I'm sure he is one.

[Tiggeroshii]

32. he is wonderful

[Kahuna7]

33. K&R!

[LincolnRossiter]

34. Great. Time to move on.

Nothing further.

[oasis]

36. I'm sold. Now let's move on and take care of the people's business.

[Cha]

113. ..

[sheshe2]

38. Well said, Sir!

[C_U_L8R]

39. I want a hugger in chief.

Not a gropper like you know who. There is a world of difference.

[Kahuna7]

40. Ditto. Inappropriate at times, but at least you know he cares. nt

[LakeArenal]

77. Exactly. Whoopi took grief when she said she didn't want Joe to change.

I feel the same. But good for Joe, he wants to change because some want him too. I love him for that.

Also, he remains the most qualified both nationally and globally.

[louis c]

41. Joe is a real person.

[cwydro]

42. K and r. nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

44. Could not have been more perfect.

[Gothmog]

46. I like this statement

Link to tweet

[mcar]

48. Mature, responsible, self-reflective

[Thekaspervote]

70. +1000

[pnwmom]

51. Good. That's a much better statement than the first one. n/t

[Silver Gaia]

52. Well done, Joe.

Now, I agree, it's time to move on.

[NBachers]

53. Your move, semi - Dems

[Guilded Lilly]

54. Thank-you, Joe. Thank-you! Smiling here. N/t

[Politicub]

55. He will not be swift-boated

He is being attacked for his warm, caring approach with people. It is one of his assets, yet Flores is weaponizing it against him.

I’m disappointed in Harris’ take on it. I was envisioning a Biden/Harris ticket, but I don’t see that happening now.

[WheelWalker]

56. Joe Biden can be the bridge connection to

a new generation of Democrats. He's a leader I can follow.

[Demsrule86]

64. Me too.

[Freethinker65]

57. Pretty good way to handle it.

Might even bring in some swing votes.

Still undecided on the candidates myself though.

[Peacetrain]

60. Well said, well said..

[Foolacious]

61. sound cuts out at 10 seconds :-(

[LongtimeAZDem]

65. Not for me

[Historic NY]

69. It was the norm with politics in my town, you'd greet

women no matter what party with a hug and a peck on the cheek. It still happens today, mostly these are older women ones whose children you grew up with, went to church suppers, firehouse events, etc. Many are widows and some were politicians in their own right. I guess I'll have to stand my ground when they lean in for a little peck.

[somaticexperiencing]

71. I thought this was very good!!!!!!!!

[Renew Deal]

72. He looks tired

I just don't think this is for him.

[LongtimeAZDem]

81. I'm so surprised to hear you say that

[maddiemom]

92. He does look tired here, but...

he's obviously in far better physical shape than the somewhat younger Orange Menace.

[peggysue2]

73. Good one on Joe

I think this was a very good, genuine response with the right tone and the added plus of taking responsibility, admitting he hears these women and recognizes times have changed.

The good-hearted nature of a Joe Biden, however, should never change. Politics and life are about connection and offering comfort to others, something that comes natural to Biden. I suspect this will go a long way to deflate the ongoing mania that has surrounded these complaints.

Let's not be the party of building walls around our country or each other.

Btw, hugs are a good thing.

[LakeArenal]

80. "Hugs are a good thing"❣️

[tonedevil]

104. Not to me...

if they come from strangers. The worst is being shamed for not wanting to hug someone. I have left situations and broken down. Even if it's just a damn hug no means no.

[LakeArenal]

108. I'm sorry for your experience.

[tonedevil]

109. Thank you....

I understand the intent is good and the assumption is that hugs are good. It seems like because of that assumption reluctance to join in makes one suspect. This whole thing has kind of triggered me because the general feeling I get is that most people here don't take personal bodily autonomy very seriously.

[annielion]

79. Excellent statement!

[stonecutter357]

82. K&R

[Kurt V.]

83. his statement should have included if he's running.

right now he is hurting the party with this stuff. declare or get out of the way

[stonecutter357]

84. K&R

[badhair77]

85. Sounds like he hit all the right notes.

[Pope George Ringo II]

86. This is why the accusations mattered.

We had to find out how he was going to handle them because they're going to come up until this fight is over for him. The man in that video is somebody you'd be proud to vote for. He took them head-on, and was charming and empathetic. I'd have been happier if he'd done it a couple of days ago, but after thinking about it, he's hugged so many people through the years he might have been waiting for things to settle down enough to give this a bigger impact. Or he might just know more about this campaigning thing than I do, and have surrounded himself with people who know more about it than he does.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

88. Only one opinion matters . . .

What does Leslie Knope have to say about this

[sellitman]

89. I've always loved Joe

He is a gentleman.

[customerserviceguy]

91. This would appear to be

the best way to handle it. A simple statement, not full of dodgy non-apology apologies, and an acknowledgement that he needs to do better in the future, as do we all.

[Honeycombe8]

93. Who's Johnny? nt

[Kingofalldems]

95. That was a line from "Rambo" spoken by Richard Crenna.

[Honeycombe8]

98. Ohhhh. Thanks. Never saw Rambo. Or American Idol. I guess I'm un-American! nt

[YOHABLO]

112. Don't feel bad. I never saw Rambo, or Rocky. I never saw StarWars.

Gasp

[Honeycombe8]

116. You're even worse than I am! No Rocky? You gotta see it.

It's the quintessential rags to riches, American Dream, both the plot of the movie AND Sly Stallone personally. He wrote it. He was a nobody, just an unknown actor, and got it produced somehow.

I saw the first StarWars. Unlike everyone in the world, I didn't like it much and never saw another one. I did like the robots.

[warmfeet]

97. No problem at all.

If Joe Biden is the nominee, I will vote for him.

[hughee99]

99. That is the best way for him to handle this.

Questioning the accounts or motivations of the accusers or suggesting they don’t have the right to complain about feeling uncomfortable (as some have done) is not a good way to address this, IMHO.

Well done Joe!

[flamingdem]

100. Good job

[bhikkhu]

106. I was never a big Biden fan, but this whole thing makes me wish I knew him better

It seems like we could use a lot more like him. Maybe he's not the guy we need in 2020, but he's a guy I really respect and wish the best for. If he is the guy, I'm there 100% for him.

[Autumn]

107. This brought such a smile to my face.

Thanks for posting this.

[Susan Calvin]

110. That's about the size of it, from what I have seen and heard.

Invasion of personal space is not the same as sexual intimidation or harassment.

[YOHABLO]

111. I wish Al Franken would have come out and said this. He should still be in there. Firebrand lost.

[LongtimeAZDem]

114. Wouldn't have worked; the MeToo crowd was out for blood at the time

[Oakenshield]

117. This was a thoughtful public statement that will hopefully put these grumblings to rest.....

This was a thoughtful public statement that will hopefully put these grumblings of sexual misconduct to rest. On the other hand WHAT THE FUCK is the public THINKING by making this such a ordeal in the first place?!!?!?

It's INFURIATING how this BULLSHIT gets traction when we have a man in the oval office that has literally BRAGGED about sexual assault! A man that has a god damn parade of women who have accused him of sexual assault.

Any Democrat that supports these accusations towards Biden are witlessly carrying water for Trump and his Regressionists.

[duforsure]

118. Good for Joe!

[lark]

119. I love Joe and this is part of the reason why.

He cares and he gets it. Maybe could have gotten it sooner, but it's not like he hasn't been totally distracted the last few years with the death and then grieving process for his son. I believe Joe and am still ready to vote for him in the primaries - when he jumps in.

[onetexan]

120. Watched it Morning Joe earlier, its the perfect response to these nonsensical claims

Clare mccaskill said there is nothing sexual about these claims, and that Joe was and is always being Joe - a relatable politician who doesnt look past you, and goes beyond the cold handshake. This was a question of personal space and what people feel comfortable with. It was his way of reaching out and making sure he acknowledges whomever he was talking to. I for one wouldnt mind a warm hug from Joe Biden. He is who he is -someone whose fought for the common man most of his life. And no he wasnt being "handsy" as that one blond analyst on morning Joe was saying earlier. We have an idiot who bragged about grabbing women by their crotches for God's sake. These baseless accusations against Biden are ridiculous and harmful.

[disndat]

122. Biden has the right stuff

Full of grace and steady as he goes.

[onetexan]

123. Amen, his wife Jill is too

[LanternWaste]

126. An appropriate and well-measured response.

With that one statement, he removed a lot of chum from the water that schools of This-Makes-Me-Too-Look-Bad!! have been feasting on.

[MadDAsHell]

127. Victims get to decide when it's "time to move on."

Not us keyboard warriors.

[WeekiWater]

128. I haven't seen anyone on this board come out as saying they are a victim to Biden. NT

[Gothmog]

129. Washington Post-Opinion: After his video, Biden may come out even stronger

Link to tweet

By late Wednesday afternoon, his video tweet had received more than 66,000 likes.

It’s not clear this was even necessary. Other than journalists, it was hard to find anyone who honestly thought “Biden is a hugger” was news; it surely wasn’t new. Even Republicans had come to his rescue. Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), in a reminder of the old Lindsey Graham, remarked, “I just want to say Joe Biden is my friend, and I know him very well, and whatever he did it may have been inappropriate but it was not driven by malice or misconduct.” Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) also vouched for him, as has Meghan McCain.

Biden conveyed in his message why he touches people — to soothe, empathize and encourage. In saying that he would resist the notion that politics has to be “antiseptic,” he showed that he’s in public service not for glory but to help others. In short, he helped voters remember the positive qualities he’s well known for, which even political opponents attest to.

[Gothmog]

130. Joe Biden is a honestly decent human being

Link to tweet

Decorum seemed far from Biden’s mind when he went off-schedule to stop by the Cabinet Room on June 10, 2013. He slung an arm around my husband, who was about to be nominated by President Barack Obama as the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers; he hugged my in-laws, whom he had never met; and then he homed in on my kindergartner. The vice president sat down and whispered to my anxious kid about the small Schleich knight he was clutching. My son relaxed, and slumped back into Biden’s lap. At that point, an aide interrupted to say that Biden was overdue for a meeting with Kosovar Prime Minister Hashim Thaçi. Still, he refused to rush. He called over my daughter and his photographer for this photo:

Why am I telling another “Biden being Biden” story? Because I believe that the character of the person who occupies the Oval Office is of the utmost importance, and because I believe that Biden, far from a bad man, is an unusually good one.....

Biden’s disregard of this protocol is telling. He enters a room, just as he enters a debate about union rights or domestic violence, with a predisposition to lend an ear to the least powerful.

Judging from the reaction to the recent spate of Biden stories, time is up on avuncular attention, now interpreted as at best pernicious paternalism and at worst septuagenarian sexual harassment. In the cultural revolution under way in America, men like Biden are invited to offer their head if their prior actions deviated from the new norms.

No doubt, character counts. I, for one, admire Biden’s deviant decency.

[Gothmog]

131. In Defense of Joe Biden: A Hug When I Needed One

Link to tweet

At age 33, I had been a life-long Republican. I worked for, what many might describe as the “dark side and/or Darth Vaders of politics”, including George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Sarah Palin. I was conservative in my upbringing, values, and beliefs. I stayed true to those feelings yet still found myself drawn to Joe Biden. Our affable, blunder-prone, yet seemingly oh-so-real Vice President.....

I was anxious, sad, and seriously swollen with emotion but was able to get a chance to meet the Vice President. Many of the local Democrats remarked “what are YOU doing here?” when I showed up in line at his photo opportunity. I explained my affection for VP Biden because of what I had been through, and no one blinked an eye, everyone understood. He was a good man. No matter your party.

When my turn came up to have my brief meet-and-greet and photo taken with Vice President Biden, I was nervous. Why AM I here?? But immediately, he knew my story (his staff had briefed him) and he brought me in for a long, big hug. It was exactly what I needed. We discussed Beau and my father. We talked about the recent loss of my mother — he understood family tragedy. He was close, nose to nose at times and hand in hand, but it was in that personal touch that I KNEW he was a human. Not a Vice President, or a politician, or someone that was giving a speech later that night. He was a real person, who had been through real things. Just like me. We must’ve talked for five minutes — far more than the paying Democrat contributors got! — but it was so genuine, no one would complain. Especially Mr. Biden, communicating and comparing stories with me was clearly a highlight for him amidst his political duties. I left with a giant smile on my face, the first in days, and was uplifted for a long time after. I met my hero, and he was exactly what I had expected him to be.

My point in telling this story is that, while Vice President Biden has a very personal and affectionate way about him, it is only because he loves people. He loves people’s stories. Man, woman, child. Father, mother, son, daughter, spouse. He knows people are hurting and can relate and offer genuine support. And human touch is the most basic form of relaying that. There is no ulterior motive — he just wants to get close to everyone. Because he cares about their stories. And is human. And THAT is what matters most and crosses all party lines.