Marq Claxton just now on MSNBC: "... Bloomberg has NOT apologized for Stop & Frisk.."

[uponit7771]

"... what he has apologized for is the he didn't tamp down on the tactics of S&F..."

This is a similar point I was making this morning !!!

Bloomberg hasn't said he should not have supported the racist elements of S&F Bloomberg is saying it was "overused" JUST YESTERDAY , that's NOT apology.

Damn, someone caught on to the wording as I mentioned here.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287507452

Democrats deserve a better explanation about S&F from Bloomberg

[jimfields33]

1. I'm still trying as hard as I can to wrap my head around the whole Bloomberg thing

I mean he is EVERYTHING we normally are against. I am just perplexed.

[uponit7771]

3. +1, from what I learned today I'm wondering why the hell is running as a democratic

... candidate !!

He's been overtly antagonistic against PoC in NY to the point of denying the CP5 restitution !!

Trump wanted the CP5 murdered

America deserves more than slightly better than Trump

[jimfields33]

10. It makes my skin craw

I guess more so from some on here. We are the most progressive in the country and yet we have a decent percentage of Bloomberg supporters.

[Blue_true]

14. Sanders voted against the Brady Bill five times. Sanders voted to give gun

manufactured indemnity against lawsuits that would have forced them to be responsible sellers of guns.
Bloomberg tried to deal with a problem that Sanders had a large hand in creating.

Here in Florida, any idiot that has an NRA or pro-gun sticker on his or her vehicle is inviting thieves to break into that vehicle and look for a gun to steal. The thief sells the gun and it ends up involved in crime. That is the reality. Sanders voted NOT to hold gun owners responsible for properly securing their guns, many of the resulting stolen guns ended up on the street of the city that Bloomberg was leading, what was Bloomberg supposed to do?

[jcmaine72]

19. Same here!

As I mentioned in another post, I conducted a site search here using the keywords "Michael Bloomberg" and couldn't find a single post prior to 2018 in which anything that could be even remotely construed as praise for him, his politics, his policies as mayor of NYC, or his business practices (he has strong business ties to China) could be found.

It's absolutely baffling to me that Bloomberg is now such an object of unconditional praise and adulation when he was such an object of scorn and opprobrium before. A billionaire oligarch with an absolutely abysmal civil rights record and business ties to China? Really? We can't do better than this as a party?

Color me gobsmacked.

[left-of-center2012]

2. "Bloomberg apologizes for 'stop-and-frisk' police practice"

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/bloomberg-apologizes-stop-frisk-police-practice-n1084756

Michael Bloomberg on Sunday apologized for his longstanding support of the controversial “stop-and-frisk” police strategy ahead of a potential Democratic presidential run, a practice that he embraced as New York’s mayor and continued to defend despite its disproportionate impact on people of color.

Addressing a black church in Brooklyn, Bloomberg said he was “sorry” and acknowledged it often led to the detention of blacks and Latinos.

“I can’t change history,” Bloomberg told the congregation. “However today, I want you to know that I realize I was wrong.” Bloomberg’s reversal is notable for someone who is often reluctant to admit wrongdoing.

[uponit7771]

4. Again, just yesterday he said it was "overused" that's not an apology

[left-of-center2012]

6. he said it was "overused"

Wow. One word from his apology?

[uponit7771]

9. Yeah, that one word changes the whole damn thing ... cause facts matter right ?!

[Blue_true]

15. Has Biden apologized for not getting national legistlation that would have

reduced the flow of guns into the city that Bloomberg led? Has Bernie apologized for being a staunch opponent of reasonable gun laws and for giving gunmakers blanket freedom from lawsuits?

When it comes to guns, every one of the candidates have something significant to answer for. At least Bloomberg tried to make a start.

[uponit7771]

17. Biden also has not apologize for not solving global warming either

... this question is disingenuous at best 🙄

[Blue_true]

20. No it is not.

National legistlators had an important role in reducing the flow of guns into big cities from places that had lax gun laws, the failed. Yes, Biden gave lip service to the concept, but did he organize an unyielding fillabuster that brought Congress to a halt until the issue was addressed? I won't even start on Bernie, anything he says about guns now is totally destroyed by his staunch past support for guns and their manufacturers.

[left-of-center2012]

5. Bloomberg Reiterates Apology for 'Stop and Frisk'

Democratic presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg campaigned in Mississippi on Tuesday, where the mayor of Jackson said he appreciated the former New York mayor’s apology for “stop-and-frisk,” a policing tactic that disproportionately targeted men of color.

Bloomberg met with Mayor Chokwe Antar Lumumba and about 20 community leaders in Jackson -- where more than 80% of residents are black -- to discuss criminal justice reform, and Lumumba told reporters he had previously discussed his opposition to the policy with Bloomberg.

“I’m grateful that he has acknowledged that wasn’t proper,” Lumumba said before a roundtable discussion on crime and punishment, part of Bloomberg’s third campaign appearance after announcing his candidacy on Nov. 24.

Bloomberg apologized for “stop and frisk” and told the group in Jackson on Tuesday that while his aim was to save lives, he regrets the impact the policy had, and “no one should ever feel targeted or judged by the color of their skin, especially by police.”

https://tinyurl.com/vjcpnx8

[uponit7771]

7. This doesn't change the OP, Bloomberg said it was "overused" yesterday as if he doesn't

... understand that any use of racial profiling is bad.

[jimfields33]

8. Mara claxton does not believe this

[uponit7771]

11. +1, and its because the waffling apologies by Bloomberg

[Demsrule86]

12. I don't care...and why do you have Biden's picture? I will support Biden ...if he fails then I will

support Bloomberg because he can beat Trump...nothing you say will change my mind...Trump is a million times worse.

[Blue_true]

13. Has Bernie apologized for voting against the Brady Bill five times,

or for voting to prevent gun manufacturers from facing liability for their products?

Has Biden and Klobuchar apologized for failing to pass national legistlation that would have prevented guns from flooding into big cities like NYC and Philly?

Bloomberg dealt with a issue of guns on the streets of the city that he led. Bernie Sanders voted to make the situation worst for NYC and other big cities. Biden and Klobuchar failed to come up with imaginative legistlation that would have kept guns out of big cities, or at least reduced their flow into those cities.

[uponit7771]

16. Biden has supported common sense gun legislation that's a good thing

[Blue_true]

18. But his failure to get that into national law led to the problem that Bloomberg faced.

The point is Biden, and EPECIALLY Sanders are culpable in making Stop and Frisk happen. Had guns been prevented from flooding into NYC, then there likely would have never been a Stop and Frisk effort.

It is one thing to give lip service to a concept, getting something concrete done is an entirely different beast. Bloomberg tried a hamfisted approach for getting guns off the streets of the city that he led, Biden gave lip service to the concept of limiting gun traffic, Bernie Sander voted time after time to make that traffic not only possible, but to increase it. So, will Bernie and Biden apologize to the families of people killed by guns that Bloomberg could not get off the streets?