Too nice to be president

[LongtimeAZDem]

Nearly everyone admonishing Biden based on the actions described recently agree that:

There was no assault, in any way, shape, or form,
There was nothing sexual, in any way, shape, or form,
There was no desire to make the person uncomfortable, and
The actions stemmed from a desire to be friendly and compassionate.

But, since some recipients found the overtures to be discomfiting, his acceptability for the Presidency is questioned.

Nice guys finish last.

[Soxfan58]

1. I would have no problem someone kissing my daughter on the head.

I would have a problem with someone who walked into her locker room while she was changing. And I would have a serious problem with someone grabbing their genitalia.

[guillaumeb]

2. Does Biden's desire count for more than the desire of the recipients of his gestures?

It seems to me that this line of argument prioritizes Biden over the women.

[LongtimeAZDem]

3. Does the discomfort of the recipients justify slamming a good man?

[guillaumeb]

5. Again, who counts?

If both parties count, and if people have raised this issue in the past, should Biden have recognized that perhaps he should have changed his style?

[LongtimeAZDem]

6. Do the gostaks distim the doshes?

[tonedevil]

11. We may never know...

but if the doshes are being distimed we can be sure it is the gostaks doing the distiming.

[LongtimeAZDem]

16. It's refreshing to converse with one who understands

[tonedevil]

18. I have a HS English Teacher to thank for that. /nt

[Gothmog]

4. Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available

[Gothmog]

7. I like this statement by Joe Biden

Link to tweet

[LongtimeAZDem]

8. Yeah; after I post this thread, he goes and shows me how it's done.

[Gothmog]

9. Yep

That was a great statement by Joe Biden

[patricia92243]

10. Mys sister actually said that about Obama "He's too nice to run for President."

[Stuart G]

12. Just a moment....Obama was "nice"...Did he run? Did he win? Win more than once?

Did Obama finish last?, or first?

Did you get the felling that Michelle (his wife) was also "nice."

Did Obama do some nice things?...like Affordable Care Act?

Obama the only nice one who ran & won the Presidency??...what about...Jimmy Carter?

Much of Carter's free time is spent "helping people" a very good idea...yes or no.?

[patricia92243]

14. She meant it as a compliment.

[Stuart G]

15. Yes, I understand..I did not mean to be sarcastic or mean in any way.

Obama was and is a nice person. Cares about people, and I believe that too. I did not mean to convey that. I am sorry if I did. Yes, a really nice person made it to become President of the United States. A great triumph for Obama, as well as our country.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

13. I don't think it disqualifies him from the Presidency.

But he needed to handle it better and more quickly. And, more germain to this discussion, the reactions of people here to dismiss the story of these women is kind of gross.

[LongtimeAZDem]

17. He handled it properly, even better than expected. And it isn't "gross" to examine accusations.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

19. It's gross to

say that the women shouldn't be believed because they didn't say something right away.
say that the women are just being too sensitive.
say that there was no intent for Biden to be a bad dude so what he did was fine.

And a bunch of other things I have read here in the past days. This is a new one that's pretty gross, too.

I liked his statement today a lot more than the previous response that he didn't actually make but was made through a spokesperson. It should have been sooner.

[LongtimeAZDem]

20. I disagree; once a person chooses to publicly challenge someone's character or actions, they are

subject to the examination of their veracity, motivations, and the circumstances involved.

[SharonClark]

21. Biden's statement was fine. Let's move on.

But why didn't someone talk to him years ago about his handsy behavior?

[Gothmog]

23. Washington Post-Opinion: After his video, Biden may come out even stronger

Link to tweet

By late Wednesday afternoon, his video tweet had received more than 66,000 likes.

It’s not clear this was even necessary. Other than journalists, it was hard to find anyone who honestly thought “Biden is a hugger” was news; it surely wasn’t new. Even Republicans had come to his rescue. Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), in a reminder of the old Lindsey Graham, remarked, “I just want to say Joe Biden is my friend, and I know him very well, and whatever he did it may have been inappropriate but it was not driven by malice or misconduct.” Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) also vouched for him, as has Meghan McCain.

Biden conveyed in his message why he touches people — to soothe, empathize and encourage. In saying that he would resist the notion that politics has to be “antiseptic,” he showed that he’s in public service not for glory but to help others. In short, he helped voters remember the positive qualities he’s well known for, which even political opponents attest to.