Noam Chomsky's thoughts on Sanders chances

[Quixote1818]

I have to say, that as someone who has been a supporter of Sanders (I am sure several of you here know I have been doing that). Chomsky's take makes me nervous because I have always had a lot of respect for his opinion. I would love to get Sanders in but Trump is so extreme and dangerous I won't be taking a chance this year. While Bloomberg is probably the bottom of my list I may have to support him because I think he has the best shot and I think some of the moderates in our field need to start dropping out fast as to not keep splitting the vote and get behind one moderate, be it Bloomberg or perhaps Klobuchar. I absolutely hate to be working against my ideals but ridding the country of Trump is far, far more important at this juncture. We can't take a chance on someone like Sanders soon but not against a maniac!

There is a scene in the movie 1776 when Thomas Jefferson has written the ending of slavery into the Declaration of Independence but he doesn't have enough support for this in the Continental Congress. (This really happened: https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/declaration-independence-and-debate-over-slavery/ ) Ben Franklin tells John Adams it's a noble idea and he is correct but taking on slavery would need to come later. That independence must come first and so tragically it is struck out but Independence is saved.

That is where I am at right now. We have to be pragmatic and this is not the year to be experimental to see if a far left candidate might do better. It's simply too risky against someone who is tearing down the Constitution in front of us an throwing the pieces in our faces:

[apcalc]

1. The moderates need to drop out?

I couldn’t disagree more. Based on my conversations with other Dems and moderate R’s , imo, they have the best chance to win.

Admittedly, I do live in the burbs of a PA city.

[Quixote1818]

2. That is what I just said. But there are too many in right now and they are splitting the vote

which is allowing Sanders a real shot that he might not have otherwise.

[apcalc]

3. I see. Do you think warren and sanders are splitting the very progressive vote?

[Quixote1818]

4. Yes, but combined they are about 40% and moderates are about 60% currently

I really like Sanders and Warren the most but Trump absolutely terrifies me. I think we need a moderate with a lot of power who can put perhaps a black progressive woman on the ticket.

[apcalc]

8. Good point.

I would have male female split I guess...

Biden/Abrams
Biden/Harris

Klobuchar/ Booker

Tho my fave is Klobuchar/Biden...too white.

Yours?

[Quixote1818]

10. Who ever has the best chance to beat Trump and Abrams.

If Abrams can win Georgia she is a great candidate. I say win because she would have if they had not purged the vote.

[apcalc]

11. I quite like Abrams! Yup, she wuz robbed imo.

[demosincebirth]

9. Moderates are the true democrats of FDR. He done more for this than country

Any president in modern times. He saved the banks.
, oil companies and started the expansion of middle Class by giving power to to the working men and women of this country. Thank you for my stars!

[Prof.Higgins]

5. Chomsky is our most insightful American analyst, so I will concur with him. n/t

[Quixote1818]

7. And you know he loves Sanders. So he is saying this from a pragmatic, very honest angle. nt

[Kurt V.]

6. i saw what Chomsky said also. maybe that's why i threw my support to warren right away.

[Doremus]

12. Throw out our other moderates in favor of Bloomberg?

Not only is he a fake (D), he also has as much charisma as Cthulhu and more baggage than Greyhound.

Edit to add: I have utmost respect for Chomsky but he's wrong on this.

[Quixote1818]

13. Not necessarily Bloomberg but a decision needs to be made pretty soon. nt

[Quixote1818]

14. And I hope I am wrong. If Sanders gets the nomination and wins I will be ecstatic! nt