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Donkees

(31,484 posts)
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:15 PM Feb 2020

FTN: Sanders says Buttigieg's billionaire donors are "precisely the problem with American politics"



Feb 9, 2020

The Vermont senator is drawing "contrasts" with Buttigieg ahead of Tuesday's New Hampshire primary.
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SCantiGOP

(13,874 posts)
1. I donated to Bernie in 2016
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:19 PM
Feb 2020

before I switched my support to Hillary.
This time, I am finding myself more and more put off by his comments as the process unfolds.

I am afraid he is willing to destroy the party if necessary to give him a chance at the nomination. I don’t see that same attitude from any of the other candidates.

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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
2. So the individuals who can give $2800, and whose donor records are public...
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:21 PM
Feb 2020

are the problem, but the shadowy PAC like Our Revolution, who can receive unlimited secret donations aren’t.

Got it.

Sid

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Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
3. Sanders is a rich guy by my measure
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:21 PM
Feb 2020

Is he part of the problem, too? 🤷?♀️

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totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
9. He is rich by my standards as well but he doesn't have anywhere near the resources necessary
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:38 PM
Feb 2020

to fund his own campaign like Bloomberg and Steyer do. Bernie doesn't have the wherewithal to buy the nomination for himself but Bloomberg certainly does.

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
14. Sanders net worth is $2 million. Bloomberg's is $61.7 billion
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 02:18 PM
Feb 2020
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Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
4. Zolorp says many of Sanders' followers are precisely the problem in politics.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:26 PM
Feb 2020

Like the ones that booed last night, prompted by Sanders' campaign staff.

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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
5. Actually these EXTREMES are what's wrong... *Ahem ahem* nt
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:29 PM
Feb 2020
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George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Of course no one brings up all the contributors that have given $2800 to Sanders' campaign....
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:33 PM
Feb 2020

...which is precisely the maximum that ANYONE can give to a candidate.

Nor do the mention the dozen or so Super PACs that are buying ads for Sanders or putting out literature or actually campaigning for Sanders or the so-called "dark money" organizations (e.g., Justice Democrats, Our Revolution, etc.) supporting and campaigning for him.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,902 posts)
7. He just doesn't get it, does he?
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:34 PM
Feb 2020

It's interesting that he stopped complaining about millionaires when he became one himself (he's much richer than Buttigieg, by the way). The problem isn't that billionaires exist, or that they donate to political campaigns; it's that we have an election system that relies on large amounts of money. Nobody can run for office successfully without it. Some of that money comes from PACs which don't have to disclose their sources (that's Citizens United). Bernie has PACs, too, but he doesn't mention that. He wants us to believe that all of his campaign contributions come from the tiny bits of cash that poor widows scrape from the bottoms of their tattered handbags and starving orphans collect by selling plasma and send to Bernie because he's the hero of the proletariat or whatever, even though the truth is that his donors send in their $2800 in small increments so it counts as multiple donations from multiple donors.

I say, bring on the billionaires. If Pete and the others are getting donations from billionaires, good for them. They need the money. That's the way the game is played these days, like it or not. If the billionaires are donating to Democrats it means they don't want Trump.

And, by the way, economic inequality isn't what causes racism. He hasn't figured that out, either.

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denem

(11,045 posts)
8. Buttigieg does not have the advantage of a campaign running since 2015.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:36 PM
Feb 2020
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madaboutharry

(40,234 posts)
10. Bernie is not a democrat.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 12:39 PM
Feb 2020

He has animosity toward the Democratic Party. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to get what he is doing. He would be very happy to see the demise of the Democratic Party. He sees his colleagues in the Senate and in Congress as the roadblock to his own political agenda.

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msongs

(67,462 posts)
11. even billionaires are limited to $2800 donation per candidate per cycle and bernie knows that but
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 01:13 PM
Feb 2020

is not one to let facts and law get in the way of his propaganda ($2800 is just a guess from memory, it may be slightly different)

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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
12. Just another
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 01:17 PM
Feb 2020

Sanctimonious Sanders purity test.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
13. THat 1%er
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 01:51 PM
Feb 2020

has a lot of nerve

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AngelicaHora

(54 posts)
15. That just tells me he would do nothing to fix our democracy
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 02:48 PM
Feb 2020

Since there are far, far worse problems than wealthy individuals giving the legal limit ($2,800) to Pete's campaign. You can't compare that to the actual corruption and lobbying.

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booley

(3,855 posts)
16. Uhmm yeah. Duh
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 03:01 PM
Feb 2020

Are we really suppose dot be belive that when Billionaires give money to a campaign, that has no effect? That those billionaires don't' want anything in return? Or that they won't get it?

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