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RandySF

(58,899 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 01:32 AM Feb 2020

Warren: Male candidates who think they are better positioned to beat Trump are wrong

Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said in New Hampshire on Wednesday that male candidates who believe they are better positioned to defeat President Trump because of their gender are "wrong."

“I believe they think so,” Warren told an attendee at a CNN town hall when asked if men have a better chance at defeating Trump because of their gender.

"But they would be wrong," she added.

Warren went on to explain that voters were skeptical that former President John F. Kennedy could be elected in 1960 due to his Roman Catholic faith, and how former President Barack Obama also faced doubts that he could be elected president as an African American.

Warren has repeatedly pushed back on the notion that her gender would be a roadblock on her path to the White House, noting her past electoral successes.

The issue of gender and electability took center stage in the primary last month after Warren said Sanders, during a private meeting in 2018, expressed doubts over whether a woman could be elected president in 2020.



https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481770-warren-male-candidates-who-think-they-are-better-positioned-to-beat-trump

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Warren: Male candidates who think they are better positioned to beat Trump are wrong (Original Post) RandySF Feb 2020 OP
So Warren is bringing this back up? squirecam Feb 2020 #1
" when asked if men have a better chance at defeating Trump because of their gender." krissey Feb 2020 #2
Thanks, krissey, BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #11
Re-read the OP and tell me how she brought it up BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #3
There is a difference in saying squirecam Feb 2020 #5
I believe her. krissey Feb 2020 #6
You have yet to illustrate where she brought it up. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #15
She's right. But Amy is more electable in a general election than Warren. scheming daemons Feb 2020 #4
There's the "E" word again. BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #13
K&R betsuni Feb 2020 #7
She used examples of two charismatic young males Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #8
Bernie / Amy 2020 James48 Feb 2020 #9
Trump's ilk will want to make female gender and LGBTQ status (for Pete) a major issue hlthe2b Feb 2020 #10
Well, Elizabeth HAS provided plans BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #12
I do agree the attacks have already been "defanged". krissey Feb 2020 #14
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
1. So Warren is bringing this back up?
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 02:08 AM
Feb 2020

It’s going to be one hell of debate.....

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krissey

(1,205 posts)
2. " when asked if men have a better chance at defeating Trump because of their gender."
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 02:13 AM
Feb 2020

When asked. Warren was asked a question and answered. That is something Warren does. Consistently answer questions asked.

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BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
11. Thanks, krissey,
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 07:45 AM
Feb 2020

for setting the record straight!

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BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
3. Re-read the OP and tell me how she brought it up
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 02:39 AM
Feb 2020
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
5. There is a difference in saying
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 02:48 AM
Feb 2020

No, the men and women candidates have an equal chance

Vs saying

There are male candidates that think they have a better chance.

The article makes it seem like the question generally asked whether men have a better chance and Warren saying some candidates (Bernie) thinks so but he is wrong.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. You have yet to illustrate where she brought it up.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 02:22 PM
Feb 2020

And are predicated your entire criticism on a biased translation.

As me ol' da used to say, "insults are the easiest thing in the world to find... if you try hard enough, you can find them even in places where they don't exist."

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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
4. She's right. But Amy is more electable in a general election than Warren.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 02:43 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
13. There's the "E" word again.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 07:59 AM
Feb 2020


What constitutes "electability" is who will vote for any given candidate.

Amy is an excellent candidate. But right now, Elizabeth is outpolling her.

Just sayin' ....
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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
8. She used examples of two charismatic young males
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:44 AM
Feb 2020

Yeah, I could go along with that. It would definitely be the ideal blueprint, especially against an incumbent. It is the reason I didn't think any of our 2020 candidates were ideal but that Beto had the greatest chance to be special.

Too bad Amy isn't male. A male version of her and no further thinking would be required.

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James48

(4,436 posts)
9. Bernie / Amy 2020
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 04:05 AM
Feb 2020

And make Liz the Secretary of the Treasury.

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hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
10. Trump's ilk will want to make female gender and LGBTQ status (for Pete) a major issue
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 07:38 AM
Feb 2020

I think for Warren and Buttigieg, they need to consistently redirect such discussions to focus on their respective strengths and plans for our future.

Neither SHOULD be an issue. Both likely WILL for some voters and especially if it is made a focal issue.

I feel bad that this is the case. I feel worse that it will likely be used as a cudgel against them and some MSM will enable such attacks. They can't let them.

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BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
12. Well, Elizabeth HAS provided plans
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 07:56 AM
Feb 2020

up the kazoo.

Elizabeth was asked a direct question and she gave a direct answer. Was she supposed to say, "I have a plan for that" instead?

Besides, Hillary STILL won three million MORE votes than IMPOTUS in 2016. Women remain exceedingly frustrated because of that and constitute Warren's MOST dedicated supporters.

It is also very likely that Warren could pick up votes in the states where HRC did not do as well, enough to overcome the EC hurdle.

One thing is that Warren has ALREADY faced some of the worst GOPer attacks and slurs, to the extent that most are already defanged.

Will they resurface relentlessly? I have no doubt but that they will. But Warren will face them head-on and she WILL persist!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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krissey

(1,205 posts)
14. I do agree the attacks have already been "defanged".
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 02:05 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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