Democratic Primaries
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People who identify as democrats are telling people not to vote their conscience but to put the party's interests first, considering the impeachment vote coming up today I find this argument very ironic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)The very existence of our Democratic Republic is at stake.
Trump must be removed. Literally NOTHING else matters in comparison.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Great edit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ripcord
(5,537 posts)Interesting motto for 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)use your head to vote instead
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Interesting form of 'thought', bit if that's all ya got, that's what ya gotta go with.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zolorp
(1,115 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
demosincebirth
(12,543 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)People who identify as democrats are telling people not to vote their conscience but to put the party's interests first, considering the impeachment vote coming up today I find this argument very ironic.
if by "voting their conscience" you mean "voting for their prefered candidate" and if by "put the party's interest first" you mean "vote for the candidate most likely to defeat Donald Trump" then yes, that is exactly what I think people should do. If you vote for a candidate who has little chance of beating Trump, I hope that the satisfaction keep you warm at night as we suffer through four more years of Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ripcord
(5,537 posts)I have to say I'm not impressed with the "hold your nose and vote for Biden" slogan.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)Enjoy your time on Fantasy Island.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ripcord
(5,537 posts)It isn't just about who can beat trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)he has no hope of beating Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cry baby
(6,682 posts)Voting blue is all the conscience we can afford at this time in history.
The entitlement of voting conscience will doom the country.
Vote blue no matter who.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ripcord
(5,537 posts)"Your personal opinions don't matter you must vote to support the party or all is lost".
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cry baby
(6,682 posts)if we dont get pragmatic in a hurry.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)position that every other position of conscience depends on completely.
And next November either Democrats or Republicans will be given control of major governments, including federal. There is no other option but to vote Democrat for any person of conscience.
Speaking of matters of conscience and your own "can't believe," Ripcord, I'm wondering, how are you feeling about extreme, traumatizing cruelty to children as a national policy? Is doing everything YOU can to make sure that isn't restarted and revved up next year on your list of moral imperatives?
Since you're here, you probably believe in equal rights for everyone, including minorities. If Republicans regain the house they will continue to destroy the people's power to oppose and remove them. If our vote become a horrible joke, the white Christian male party will drag us into a post-civil-rights era of oppression and persecution (historians would say it's already starting with packing courts with bigoted and misogynistic judges). How will your conscience be with not doing everything you could have to stop what they've already started?
Is saving our democracy on your moral to-do list?
Trump still has several million brown-skinned people to exile from the U.S. If you don't do everything you can to make sure he and the Republican majorities are not reelected, will your conscience be clear with the horrific methods they plan to use and all the tragedies to come? Or will you say it's not your doing and blame the Democratic leadership for not stopping it?
Healthcare? Okay if the Republicans succeed in making national healthcare and madated coverage for preexisting conditions unconstitutional? Their getting another conservative extremist on the high court is not a matter for your conscience?
How about Social Security and Medicare? Do moral people fight the plans for "privatization" (another megaheist transfer of wealth upward) as a way of destroying these giant programs? Not a matter of conscience for you if a new archconservative SCOTUS just declares all such programs unconstitutional? (Far from unlikely.)
The first item for people of conscience is to vote morally. Being sorry too late is not a moral position.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flotsam
(3,268 posts)But I'd like to ask if "ripcord" references an extreme sport or a siege in southeast Asia?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden