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pattyloutwo

(279 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:25 AM Feb 2020

Woman for president in 2040

First we need the oldest white guy ever, then the gay white guy, then the Asian American guy, then the Hispanic guy. Mix in a couple white Republican guys and second terms; make it 2050 or 2060. I was told when I was a kid that a woman can be president when Mondale ran with Ferraro. They lied. Parents, stop lying to your kids. When your daughter asks if a woman can be president, and you’re voting for a man rather than one of the two highly qualified female candidates, please answer, “ not yet.”

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Woman for president in 2040 (Original Post) pattyloutwo Feb 2020 OP
Well said, pattyloutwo kag Feb 2020 #1
They aren't losing just because they are women treestar Feb 2020 #9
I understand Warren coming in second to Bernie Sanders. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #10
Amy had momentum squirecam Feb 2020 #16
I am so sick of this argument. kag Feb 2020 #11
but then we don't get around that treestar Feb 2020 #14
Maybe Warren squirecam Feb 2020 #18
I am all for a woman President mercuryblues Feb 2020 #2
Excellent! kag Feb 2020 #12
A woman won the popular vote for President in 2016. MineralMan Feb 2020 #3
Hey that's not divisive bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #4
If only Hillary had shattered that glass ceiling. jmg257 Feb 2020 #5
She WON! kag Feb 2020 #13
Forget about the electoral college, she had the whole race won until Comey intervened at the end. StevieM Feb 2020 #17
And another woman squirecam Feb 2020 #19
I'm all about Amy..... but all I want is Trump gone. scheming daemons Feb 2020 #6
You forgot the cable guy... JenniferJuniper Feb 2020 #7
there's going to be a woman President when a woman wins treestar Feb 2020 #8
Amen. Nt lostnfound Feb 2020 #15
Hillary would have won handily in 2008 Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #20
I was thinking just that, a few minutes ago. krissey Feb 2020 #21
 

kag

(4,079 posts)
1. Well said, pattyloutwo
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:32 AM
Feb 2020

I think Klobuchar and Warren are the two MOST qualified candidates...by far. This feels way too much like the women's suffrage movement. Just wait a few years until after the war...just wait a few years until the economy is better...just wait...just wait...

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
9. They aren't losing just because they are women
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:31 PM
Feb 2020

It's like the woman has to win or it's wrong? You have to convince people on grounds other than we should have a woman President.

It's like if Bernie doesn't win, it must be manipulation of the DNC. No, to win you have to get the most votes.

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Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
10. I understand Warren coming in second to Bernie Sanders.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:33 PM
Feb 2020

They share the same base and he's been building a following longer than she has.

I do not, for the life of me, understand why anyone in their right fucking mind would pick Buttigieg over Klobuchar.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
16. Amy had momentum
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:10 AM
Feb 2020

But the senate trial interfered with it.

Perhaps Warren could have been second had the trial not taken up her time. Or Amy finish top 4.

But I do like that Pete has been mostly positive. My issue is his lack of experience.

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kag

(4,079 posts)
11. I am so sick of this argument.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:42 PM
Feb 2020

Plenty of people won't vote for them just because they are women. They think women are unelectable BECAUSE of their gender.

Klobuchar and Warren easily have more intelligence, class, dignity and experience, and they each have better policy statements than their idealogical brethren. That is, of course, my opinion, but none of it has anything to do with their gender.

I truly believe that if they were men, they would make the most electable ticket the Dems could put together. And the only reason that won't happen is because they are women. It sucks!

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. but then we don't get around that
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 02:06 PM
Feb 2020

or convince anyone based on that. It is tough to convince people they are being unfair and should change because of that. I don't know what the answer is, though. Hillary came close and maybe even did it without Russia and Comey. It will take a very charismatic woman, parallel to Obama getting over the hurdle due to having it.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
18. Maybe Warren
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:13 AM
Feb 2020

Should say she’d pick Amy as VP. Try to get Amy’s supporters on board with an all female ticket.

Warren + Amy % could win NH. That would effect Bernie’s chances.

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mercuryblues

(14,537 posts)
2. I am all for a woman President
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:39 AM
Feb 2020

just not that woman running in 2040. Who cares if she found the cure for Cancer, Ended poverty and homelessness in her home state. She once said a mean thing about the 90 year old white guy running against her, it rules her out. Oh and her haircut is awful and bad taste in shoes.

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kag

(4,079 posts)
12. Excellent!
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:43 PM
Feb 2020

Also, she had a cough yesterday, so...

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MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
3. A woman won the popular vote for President in 2016.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:41 AM
Feb 2020

I remember. I voted for her. She was blocked in the Electoral College by some people who voted for a different woman in three states.

So, absolutely yes, a woman can be elected as President. I expect that to happen in 2024, in fact, when the woman who becomes the Vice President runs after a single-term President does not.

Hillary Clinton won. She did not take office, however. But, she got 3 million more votes than the person who is sitting in the White House this morning.

Will a woman be nominated in 2020? Perhaps not. We have too many candidates running for that nomination, I'm afraid.

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bucolic_frolic

(43,282 posts)
4. Hey that's not divisive
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:02 PM
Feb 2020

let's vivisect the rest of the populace while you're at it

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jmg257

(11,996 posts)
5. If only Hillary had shattered that glass ceiling.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:08 PM
Feb 2020

SO close.

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kag

(4,079 posts)
13. She WON!
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:44 PM
Feb 2020

It wasn't even a little close. She trounced the orange menace by over 3 million votes. We HAVE to get rid of the EC.

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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
17. Forget about the electoral college, she had the whole race won until Comey intervened at the end.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:13 AM
Feb 2020

And that was after he had already screwed her over back in July.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
19. And another woman
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:14 AM
Feb 2020

Cost her enough votes in 3 critical states.....

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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
6. I'm all about Amy..... but all I want is Trump gone.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:13 PM
Feb 2020

Whoever accomplishes that, I'm good with.

If it is an "old white guy", so be it.


I think Amy would win big in a general election.... but I need more people to agree with me and you.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. there's going to be a woman President when a woman wins
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:29 PM
Feb 2020

the primary and the GE.

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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
20. Hillary would have won handily in 2008
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 01:02 AM
Feb 2020

It was a massive mistake not to nominate her. Typical shortsighted thinking. Imagine Obama sitting on the sideline waiting for 2016. You always want the more charismatic candidate in the more troubled cycle, like 2016 after holding the White House two consecutive terms. 2008 was more like a handout.

Those of us who argued for Hillary here in 2008 were put on ignore list recommendation sheets that were passed around by PM. That's how bad it got and don't let anyone tell you differently. I was sent a copy of the list. It was basically all the smart people, the ones arguing the immense benefit of becoming the first party to elect a female.

Hillary always figured to lose a close race in 2016, given the situational deficit. I didn't pay any attention until the other side was actually flirting with Donald Trump. That gave Hillary a chance, and she had it until Comey changed world history.

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krissey

(1,205 posts)
21. I was thinking just that, a few minutes ago.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 01:04 AM
Feb 2020
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