Peter Daou: I am appalled by the attacks on Lucy Flores

[melman]

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[hlthe2b]

1. thanks for "mansplaining" that to us, Peter.

Sorry, I waited until now to comment so that I could watch this unfold, read her accusation and watch her interviews. And, I have let her explain to us her issue and "motivations" in coming forth now.

I call BULLSHIT smear attack. (Whether you mansplain it to me or not! )

[Autumn]

2. I don't see that as "mansplaining". It's his opinion, just as valid as yours. Change the

name to Trump instead of Biden and we will be all up in that #BelieveWomen.

[Trenzalore]

3. If that was all Trump was accused of or has confessed to.....

[hlthe2b]

5. Oh, I think he is. Telling all of us how to think about this.

It comes off as incredibly condescending or very anti-Biden. Take your pick.

[Autumn]

6. Like you are telling us all how to think about this?

[hlthe2b]

8. Where did I tell you, Autumn how to think about it? Where? I'm waiting.

But, I'm done with this manipulation campaign. I am decidedly UNDECIDED, but I'm not going to be silent when I see intentional attempts to smear Biden or any other candidate. And that is MY opinion after fully weighing what is being presented.

[Autumn]

15. Umm right here?

Oh, I think he is. Telling all of us how to think about this.
It comes off as incredibly condescending or very anti-Biden. Take your pick.

You have an opinion, Peter Daou has an opinion. We all have an opinion. Giving that opinion is not "mansplaining".

[hlthe2b]

16. Did you EVEN read his tweets? He crowned himself judge, jury, and arbitor of all that should BE.

He hasn't had a major role since Kerry's campaign, so excuse me if I don't find him to be the end all, be all that he obviously believes he is.

[Autumn]

19. No he did not. IMO he was very reasonable. nt

[melman]

18. Did you see how people suddenly don't know who Peter Daou is?

Strange. He used to be quite popular here.

[Autumn]

20. Strange isn't it?

[hlthe2b]

21. He hasn't been major force since Kerry's campaign, so hardly surprised we aren't kissing his ring

[melman]

25. I recall there being a lot of excitement over his verrit project

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And if you search his name here you'll see he's been cited many times over the last few years.

[hlthe2b]

27. Verrit--"This account's Tweets are protected"... (eyeroll big time--way to get the word out, Peter)

Count me unimpressed. And, no, I don't think his opinion on what we should think about Ms. Flores is the "end all, be all"

This account's Tweets are protected.

Only confirmed followers have access to @verrit's Tweets and complete profile. Click the "Follow" button to send a follow request.

[Autumn]

43. He was the digital media strategist for Clinton's 2008 campaign, and a big supporter in 16. nt

[hlthe2b]

48. 2008. It is 2019. Thus my point.

thanks for the "assist" with my point.

[Autumn]

51. And a big supporter in 16. Kerry was in 04. Thus my point.

You're welcome. Just setting the timeline straight.

[hlthe2b]

52. I was a big HRC supporter in 2016. That hardly makes me a "mover/shaker" in Dem politics

(though I'd be happy to collect the checks )

[TheCowsCameHome]

23. I have NO idea who he is.

Did I miss something good?

[melman]

32. here

Political campaigns
Daou was an online communications adviser to John Kerry's 2004 campaign, and led Hillary Clinton's digital operation in her 2008 campaign.[10]

Digital media
Daou was the prior chief executive of Shareblue.[10] and the co-founder of the media platform Verrit, which was placed on hiatus in early 2018.[11]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Daou#Political_campaigns

[hlthe2b]

50. he was once a "mover/shaker" in Dem politics. Now? I question those who think he is.

[melman]

54. Okay

Feel free to point out where someone said that he is.

[Autumn]

34. That's fine, that's an opinion too

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[pnwmom]

24. This has nothing to do with mansplaining. Mansplaining is a man lecturing women, and he isn't.

He's just stating his opinion to the world at large.

And I think it's dead on, especially:

"If you're making judgments about #LucyFlores based on whether it helps Bernie Sanders, you're getting it wrong.

"If you're making judgments based on whether it hurts Bernie Sanders, you're also getting it wrong."

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[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. Couldn't agree with Peter more... it IS appalling!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Join the revolution!!!

[hlthe2b]

30. Count me unsurprised...

[Demsrule86]

39. Really? This is bs and you know it.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

41. I stand with Lucy!! #MeToo

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Join the revolution!!!

[Tipperary]

45. I have never seen anyone use exclamation points as much as you do.

I find it fascinating.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

55. So glad!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Atticus]

53. I stand with Charlie Brown. There---now we've both made patently silly statements. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

56. That's right, make fun of standing with women who come forward as part of the #MeToo movement...

How very nice of you!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Atticus]

64. I never use the ignore option, so you'll have to settle for "Whatever"----nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

65. About what I expected... that's cool, yeah, whatever.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
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[ahoysrcsm]

67. Lisa Flores' an Inconvient Truth

Starring Lisa Flores as the Instigator,



Also starring Lisa Flores as the Recipient of alleged wrong doing.


You just have to determine if this was before or after the alleged offense.


Or is Lisa Flores wanting a picture with VP Biden, Her TOO?

[ahoysrcsm]

68. Riddle me this Batman

When did the #Metoo stop being about sexual assault victims coming forward, and become a political weapon?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

69. Never... because it hasn't.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[ahoysrcsm]

72. Tthank you, Batman.

I will keep that in mind.

[Demsrule86]

59. Much as I dislike Lucy, I sincerely hope she never has to experience what happened to me.

Let her continue to believe her version of ' asault` is so terrible. I wish I didn't know better.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

60. That's for sure. I don't think, however, she's saying she was "assaulted"... unless I missed that.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
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[Demsrule86]

62. I think she is horrible.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

63. Well, that's obvious...we just have to disagree on that.

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[ahoysrcsm]

66. Flores should have stayed out of Bidens space

Doh!

[DonViejo]

4. No one has accused Joe Biden of sexual assault..

... no one except Peter Daou.

[Autumn]

35. Wow. He accused Joe Biden of sexual assault? That is so wrong. Link?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

57. Cue the crickets... chirp! chirp!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Autumn]

70. There sure are a lot of smear and runs the last few days.

I guess as long as they get it out there they consider themselves a success.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

71. You got that right!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[BeyondGeography]

7. So don't vote for him then

The first contest isn’t for another ten fucking months. Let voters decide if being a little touchy-feely is fatal in a contest with President porn star payoff private parts grabber. Sheesh.

[UniteFightBack]

9. First off I didn't read his tweets here but ya know what I'm appauled at the PREDICTED ATTACKS

against Joe fucking Biden. Go ahead...keep attacking muthafuckas - it's going to backfire....it's going to solidify and HARDEN his support. Pun intended....hope I didn't offend anyone because I have a filthy fucking disgusting mouth.

BUT HEY IF YOU TELL ME PLEASE DON'T CURSE.....guess what I STOP...IF YOU DON'T SAY SHIT THOUGH I WILL KEEP ON.

See how that works?

[BannonsLiver]

10. Rest of world: Who the fuck is Peter Daou?

[TheCowsCameHome]

11. What/who is a Peter Daou?

Not that I give a *hit.

[Celerity]

38. seems pretty connected at high levels of the Democratic apparatus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Daou

Peter Daou (born April 25, 1965) is a Democratic strategist who has advised major political figures, including Hillary Clinton, Arlen Specter, and John Kerry. He was described by the New York Times as "one of the most prominent political bloggers in the nation." The Washington Post said that his early work in digital politics helped innovate "a whole new way of campaigning."


Daou was an online communications adviser to John Kerry's 2004 campaign, and led Hillary Clinton's digital operation in her 2008 campaign.


Daou was the prior chief executive of Shareblue, and the co-founder of the media platform Verrit.


Daou and James Boyce claimed to have performed a founding role in the Huffington Post and said they were shut out of any profits from its sale to AOL. A suit was filed in 2010 by Daou and Boyce, which was settled in 2014.

[Owl]

47. I never heard of him either.

[WeekiWater]

12. Biden has the moral high ground.

That includes when you take Biden’s patriarchal tendencies into place. This asshole couldn’t make it sound any worse. This is a continuation of the political smear campaign. I will never dismiss Biden’s patriarchal tendencies. I will also never dismiss Biden’s excellent moral compass and decency. This is absurd.

[we can do it]

13. Fuck off dude🤮

[TheCowsCameHome]

14. So many dudes, so little time.

[we can do it]

33. 😹

[flotsam]

17. #FOWDC

Fuck off-we don't care!

[we can do it]

31. +1000

[W_HAMILTON]

22. Who?

[Gothmog]

28. I was wondering the same thing

[Autumn]

36. Really? You don't know who Peter Daou is? Big Hillary supporter.

[Demsrule86]

37. I am appalled with women with an agenda that weaponize and destroy the me too movement.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

42. Are you serious?! Tell that to all the Democratic candidates who stand with Lucy!!

Are they weaponizing and destroying the #MeToo movement too?!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Demsrule86]

46. Any candidate that stands with Sanders supporter trashing Biden

Gets no vote in the primary from me and no money..

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

49. Warren and Castro say they stand with Lucy and believe her... guess they're

out to destroy the #MeToo movement too?! Riiiiiight!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Demsrule86]

58. They will regardless of their intentions.

[peggysue2]

61. Exactly, Demsrule

I'm astounded at how short-sighted this whole approach is. Women have waited forever to be taken seriously, to have their voices heard. This sort of nonsense just cuts the whole message off at the knees.

Stupid and counterproductive.

[Loki Liesmith]

40. Lol Daou

[Jarqui]

44. "my default position is #BelieveWomen."

Really?

Two words for one example: Sarah Palin

or how about: Rosie Ruiz

or Anna Anderson

or the youngest female victim of Luis Vargas who stands by her identification after DNA cleared him

or Jennifer Thompson who admitted she must have been wrong after the man she accused served 11 years before DNA freed him.

I could go on and on.

You have to use your head. You don't automatically believe someone because of their sex.

The "default" position above is WRONG!!

The default position should be something like : listen to the allegations, take them seriously and encourage someone in authority checks them out. Don't completely doubt her. Don't completely accept what she is saying.

The stats are much better than they used to be years ago. Now, roughly 95% of the time now, women are not lying according to some studies. So that is incentive to take the allegation seriously. But it goes too far to hear an allegation and automatically believe it. Where is the due process in that?

With what is going on here, it is sketchier. It's not full blown sexual assault. And the timing is suspect. Both women have mentioned politics. It is a different situation and not in the sexual assault veracity category in my opinion.

The pictures of Ms Flores at the event do not reveal a troubled woman with Joe Biden. She had all kinds of time to chat it over with him. In my opinion, she should have contacted him first to see what he had to say about it before blindsiding him in the media.

To automatically believe someone because they are a woman is discrimination. It's wrong.

[Gothmog]

73. I had never heard of this peter Daou and had to look him up

Has he worked for any Democrat since 2008? This guy and Mark Penn were evident close

[melman]

75. I find that difficult to believe

[Gothmog]

76. He worked for Clinton in 2008 with Mark Penn

He and Penn are part of the reason why Clinton's 2008 campaign flopped so badly. I was an Obama supporter in 2008 and was on the Obama voter protection team.

Had Daou worked for any democrats since 2008?

[melman]

77. "He and Penn are part of the reason why Clinton's 2008 campaign flopped so badly"

You just said you never heard of him.

[Gothmog]

78. It is called google

I had not heard of him and so I looked him up. He has not been involved in any major campaigns it appears since 2008 but then again neither has Mark Penn

Is this person working for sanders now?

[Gothmog]

74. I like this statement by Joe Biden

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[oasis]

79. The sidelined, Daou may be seeking employment and is putting

out his opinion in lieu of an application. It worked for William Barr, who wrote a "presidents-can-do-no-wrong" OP which first caught Trump's eye many months ago. Barr went from sitting around the house on his ass to the office of U.S. Atty. General.