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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:55 PM Feb 2020

App Used to Tabulate Votes Is Said to Have Been Inadequately Tested

The app was quickly put together in the past two months and was not properly tested at a statewide scale, according to people briefed on the matter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/us/politics/iowa-caucus-app.html


The app used by the Iowa Democratic Party was built by Shadow Inc., a for-profit technology company that is also used by the Nevada Democratic Party, the next state to hold a caucus, as well as by multiple presidential campaigns. Shadow’s involvement was kept a secret by Democratic officials through the caucuses.

An official from Shadow did not respond to requests for comment, but one of the company’s investors, Acronym, a progressive nonprofit company, released a statement saying that Acronym was a separate entity from Shadow and that it was still waiting to hear from the Iowa Democratic Party “with respect to what happened.”

Matt Blaze, a professor of computer science and law at Georgetown, said that introducing apps in the midst of an election posed many problems. Any type of app or program that relies on using a cellphone network to deliver results is vulnerable to problems both on the app and on the phones being used to run it, he said.

“The consensus of all experts who have been thinking about this is unequivocal,” Mr. Blaze added. “Internet and mobile voting should not be used at this time in civil elections.”


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App Used to Tabulate Votes Is Said to Have Been Inadequately Tested (Original Post) Autumn Feb 2020 OP
In the future dictionaries lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #1
I aboslutely agree. heckles65 Feb 2020 #2
They shouldn't be used for voting. As for being used in caucus I'm lucky to get service in Autumn Feb 2020 #4
80 year old precinct workers were asked to sideload an unsigned ADB Recursion Feb 2020 #3
Hey, they paid a whole $60k for it!!!! getagrip_already Feb 2020 #5
Who decided that an app was needed and this soon before the caucus? jalan48 Feb 2020 #6
THERE WAS NO CONTINGENCY PLAN!!! 2naSalit Feb 2020 #7
Load testing should have been a critical part of the development process. honest.abe Feb 2020 #8
 

lapfog_1

(29,228 posts)
1. In the future dictionaries
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:58 PM
Feb 2020

under the definition of "obvious"...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

heckles65

(549 posts)
2. I aboslutely agree.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:59 PM
Feb 2020

“The consensus of all experts who have been thinking about this is unequivocal,” Mr. Blaze added. “Internet and mobile voting should not be used at this time in civil elections.” Agreed. I don't use my cell phone to make bank deposits, I never put my SS number on it, and I don't want to use it to vote. All for the same reasons.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
4. They shouldn't be used for voting. As for being used in caucus I'm lucky to get service in
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:04 PM
Feb 2020

a high school gymnasium, Wal Mart, and even Safeway, using their hot spot. This was stupid beyond the pale and created a clusterfuck to end all clusterfucks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
3. 80 year old precinct workers were asked to sideload an unsigned ADB
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:03 PM
Feb 2020


Count the people

Call the state party with the results

This isn't rocket science.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

getagrip_already

(14,897 posts)
5. Hey, they paid a whole $60k for it!!!!
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:07 PM
Feb 2020

Do ya wanna know what you can get for $60k when an app developer will be fully loaded at $150k/year or more?

This.

2 part time developers for 2 months, and little or no field testing, specified by non-technical part time party staffers.

You get what you pay for, and what you specify. Miss on both, and you get a hot steaming pile of trouble.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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jalan48

(13,901 posts)
6. Who decided that an app was needed and this soon before the caucus?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:10 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

2naSalit

(86,860 posts)
7. THERE WAS NO CONTINGENCY PLAN!!!
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:17 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
8. Load testing should have been a critical part of the development process.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 01:23 PM
Feb 2020

I'm a web systems engineer and to not have load tested this app prior to its use is inexcusable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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