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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:42 PM Feb 2020

Looks like the NYT (and I) may have known about the problem much earlier than it was reported.

Last edited Tue Feb 4, 2020, 09:16 AM - Edit history (2)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/03/us/elections/results-iowa-caucus-democrats.html

The Sanders row has this:

First Vote Final Vote
Votes Pct Votes Pct

944 22.8% 689 26.9%

Why would there be fewer Sanders votes in the Final vote? He certainly was viable. And as I understand it, voters have to stick to their first choice if it is viable. There's a link below that says "Confused? Here's how the Iowa Caucuses work." But it takes me to a page with nothing on it but a little Crossword button in the upper left....

HELP!

Edit: That section has disappeared from the NYT site.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Looks like the NYT (and I) may have known about the problem much earlier than it was reported. (Original Post) LAS14 Feb 2020 OP
I'm guessing... sweetloukillbot Feb 2020 #1
Well, now that's a plausible thought. Dumb of the NYT, but plausible. Hmmmm.... LAS14 Feb 2020 #2
The fact that there's two metrics being tracked is stupid sweetloukillbot Feb 2020 #3
Bumping to see if anyone else has another idea. Data has changed but.... LAS14 Feb 2020 #4
Hah! It sounds like the NYT was simply reporting the bad data that Iowa was getting. LAS14 Feb 2020 #5
 

sweetloukillbot

(11,098 posts)
1. I'm guessing...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:44 PM
Feb 2020

That it means some of the precincts that have completed first count have not completed final count, so they aren't included yet?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
2. Well, now that's a plausible thought. Dumb of the NYT, but plausible. Hmmmm....
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:46 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sweetloukillbot

(11,098 posts)
3. The fact that there's two metrics being tracked is stupid
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 10:47 PM
Feb 2020

First pass means nothing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
4. Bumping to see if anyone else has another idea. Data has changed but....
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 12:36 AM
Feb 2020

....the relationships haven't. Still the same question. Why does Sanders have less votes in the Final than the First Vote?

tia
las

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
5. Hah! It sounds like the NYT was simply reporting the bad data that Iowa was getting.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:59 AM
Feb 2020

Probably from early satellite caucuses. Anyway, it sounds very possible. CNN reports bad numbers from second alignment.

That section has disappeared from the NYT site.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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