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brooklynite

(94,594 posts)
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:52 PM Apr 2019

POLL: What's your position on the Biden situation?

I personally find it astounding how quickly people here disregard a woman's personal opinion of physical contact.


32 votes, 2 passes | Time left: Unlimited
I am MALE and believe that the women accusers are honestly expressing their concerns
7 (22%)
I am FEMALE and believe that the women accusers are honestly expressing their concerns
3 (9%)
I am MALE and believe that the women accusers have ulterior motives in their accusations
6 (19%)
I am FEMALE and believe that the women accusers have ulterior motives in their accusations
12 (38%)
I am MALE and don't have an opinion
3 (9%)
I am FEMALE and don't have an opinion
1 (3%)
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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POLL: What's your position on the Biden situation? (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2019 OP
Male zipplewrath Apr 2019 #1
Very likely. Schrodinger's Truth. WheelWalker Apr 2019 #5
Same feeling and I am female Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #13
"I am MALE and believe that the women accusers have ulterior motives in their accusations" WeekiWater Apr 2019 #2
I cannot vote for Bernie Sanders at all if the evidence shows they are part of his team. OrlandoDem2 Apr 2019 #3
Literally none of the evidence shows any such thing Kentonio Apr 2019 #6
Well, the Flores lady in Nevada has motive. OrlandoDem2 Apr 2019 #11
CBS news said ... left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 #22
+1000 Laurian Apr 2019 #9
I am female, I believe the accusers because this is nothing new. It has ALWAYS been a thing with Squinch Apr 2019 #4
+1 Pope George Ringo II Apr 2019 #20
I am female and I believe we are obsessing about this excessively. nt IphengeniaBlumgarten Apr 2019 #7
Biden Peace06 Apr 2019 #23
I am male and believe MSNBC reporting 'other candidates call for Biden to explain more' empedocles Apr 2019 #8
I'm not very computer savy, but amanda marcotte at salon is spot on. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #10
took me a few trys but here it is. i think Kurt V. Apr 2019 #17
I find it astounding how people misinterpret a difference of opinion as "disregard." LanternWaste Apr 2019 #12
I am a female and I am glad we are having this discussion. We need to establish boundaries in this vsrazdem Apr 2019 #14
Contrary to what many on here want to believe or promote... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #15
I just saw this picture on twitter. Just sayin'. Arkansas Granny Apr 2019 #16
I am triggered by the lack of a nonbinary option LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #18
I didn't vote on any of the choices BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #19
OTOH I think some of these accusations qazplm135 Apr 2019 #21
I went for honestly expressing customerserviceguy Apr 2019 #24
perspective. need perspective. was there pussy grabbing? pansypoo53219 Apr 2019 #25
Anita Hill. JenniferJuniper Apr 2019 #26
I am FEMALE and believe that the women accusers have ulterior motives in their accusations trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #27
I think Flores Made up the Accusations against Biden. But i CAN see someone being uncomfortable with JI7 Apr 2019 #28
 

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
1. Male
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:55 PM
Apr 2019

And honestly believe the women are expressing their feelings and some of them ALSO have ulterior motives.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
5. Very likely. Schrodinger's Truth.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:59 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
13. Same feeling and I am female
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:11 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
2. "I am MALE and believe that the women accusers have ulterior motives in their accusations"
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:56 PM
Apr 2019

I like the way this is worded. They do have ulterior motives. I could vote without dismissing the long standing patriarchal issues that are well known.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OrlandoDem2

(2,065 posts)
3. I cannot vote for Bernie Sanders at all if the evidence shows they are part of his team.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:58 PM
Apr 2019

This smacks of a political hit job.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
6. Literally none of the evidence shows any such thing
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:59 PM
Apr 2019

So that shouldnt be a problem for you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OrlandoDem2

(2,065 posts)
11. Well, the Flores lady in Nevada has motive.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:06 PM
Apr 2019

If this accuser works for Sanders in any capacity, I’m smelling a rat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
22. CBS news said ...
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:37 PM
Apr 2019

She supported Sanders in 2016,
and was at the Beto O'Rourke rally this weekend.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
9. +1000
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:05 PM
Apr 2019

And I’m a female. I hate these kinds of political tactics.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
4. I am female, I believe the accusers because this is nothing new. It has ALWAYS been a thing with
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:58 PM
Apr 2019

Biden.

And PS, you couldn't pay me enough to vote for BS in the primary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
7. I am female and I believe we are obsessing about this excessively. nt
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:00 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Peace06

(248 posts)
23. Biden
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 05:21 PM
Apr 2019

Another female totally agrees with you. Its BS! And damages those who have real assault problems. Innocent until proven guilty!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
8. I am male and believe MSNBC reporting 'other candidates call for Biden to explain more'
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:03 PM
Apr 2019

[ unreported, and call for Biden to deepen the hole of his issue].

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
10. I'm not very computer savy, but amanda marcotte at salon is spot on.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:05 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. I find it astounding how people misinterpret a difference of opinion as "disregard."
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:07 PM
Apr 2019

Though quite convenient and simplistic to do so, it's still little more than a dramatic lack of critical thought designed to placate bias.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
14. I am a female and I am glad we are having this discussion. We need to establish boundaries in this
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:11 PM
Apr 2019

day and age, and I think it is good to have these conversations.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
15. Contrary to what many on here want to believe or promote...
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:11 PM
Apr 2019

....this is not just like the Franken situation. This has always been a thing with Biden and because of the culture of the times, it wasn't really harped on that much. But now that 1) times have changed thankfully and this type of bullshit is no longer acceptable, and 2) people are pushing Biden as the "safe" choice to go up against Trump, it is getting more scrutiny and more people are speaking out.

Couple his touchy-feely handsiness with how he treated Anita Hill and it's clearly not something people are pulling out of thin air.

Will there be some who have ulterior motives? Sure. But not all of them, and those people deserve and need to be heard without fear of Republican style retribution.

Honestly, if any candidate doesn't want to be scrutinized then they shouldn't be running for president. Which Biden isn't as of now, but if he decides to get in the race he'll have to face this eventually.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
16. I just saw this picture on twitter. Just sayin'.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:13 PM
Apr 2019

?s=20


/photo/1

If Biden's actions warrant an investigation, so be it, but let's not be in a rush to throw anyone under the bus just yet.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
18. I am triggered by the lack of a nonbinary option
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:16 PM
Apr 2019




/s
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
19. I didn't vote on any of the choices
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:18 PM
Apr 2019

because they include all women accusers as being identical.

If you were to change the wording to "some women accusers", your poll results would change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
21. OTOH I think some of these accusations
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:28 PM
Apr 2019

are a bit overwrought. There's a difference between me too sexual harassment and some old person who is too oblivious to personal space.

OTOH, I think we are going to see these claims drip once a week or so until the sheer volume of them torpedoes his chances and he will never actually announce he is running.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
24. I went for honestly expressing
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 05:49 PM
Apr 2019

I recall how the reich wing impugned Dr. Ford's motivations during the Kavanaugh hearings. If we sound like them, we risk looking like hypocrites.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pansypoo53219

(20,978 posts)
25. perspective. need perspective. was there pussy grabbing?
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 07:16 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
26. Anita Hill.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 10:18 PM
Apr 2019

I'll support him if he's the nominee, but not a moment before that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

trueblue2007

(17,228 posts)
27. I am FEMALE and believe that the women accusers have ulterior motives in their accusations
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 10:35 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JI7

(89,252 posts)
28. I think Flores Made up the Accusations against Biden. But i CAN see someone being uncomfortable with
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 12:45 AM
Apr 2019

what we have seen with Biden in the videos . i can see someone feeling uncomfortable even if the intention was not sexual and they ddin't think it was sexual. some people just want their space and that's actually how most americans are compared to some other cultures.

and i was thinking it was a case of being uncomfortable BUT now based on everything i have seen and heard i believe she did make it up. she made it up using what she saw Biden do with other women and claimed it was done to her.

and i do think it was for political reasons which she admitted.

btw, i knew the sexual harrassment accusation against Sean HAnnity by some crazy nut job was also BS so this isn't just based on defending a democrat that i like.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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