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brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:18 PM Feb 2020

Just to review: Bennet, Gabbard Patrick, Yang, Steyer, and possibly Klobuchar...

...will not be viable in most districts. Their supporters will have to go elsewhere.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Just to review: Bennet, Gabbard Patrick, Yang, Steyer, and possibly Klobuchar... (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
That should be interesting PatSeg Feb 2020 #1
Good point. Second choice votes will likely decide who wins the caucus tonight. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #2
I can guarantee most Yang won't move to Bernie. redqueen Feb 2020 #3
Yang himself said it was likely his supporters' second choice is Bernie. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #4
Yang is Yang - he is eternally optimistic and pragmatic. redqueen Feb 2020 #5
Who do you think they will move to, if not Bernie? Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #6
I'm sure a large portion will. redqueen Feb 2020 #8
Well, this is an interesting discussion. I just didn't think Hortensis Feb 2020 #18
Yeah, there's been so much ugliness. redqueen Feb 2020 #19
:) Nothing new about that last. But in a populist campaign, Hortensis Feb 2020 #22
Who do you see Yang supporters going to? Autumn Feb 2020 #7
If I had to guess I'd say Gabbard, Warren, or Biden. nt redqueen Feb 2020 #9
Gabbard or Warren I could see, but I can't see them going to Biden. I may be wrong but I don't think Autumn Feb 2020 #13
Biden is the only other candidate who has acknowledged the threat to workers redqueen Feb 2020 #14
Andrew Yang Says Supporters May Go to Sanders in Iowa Caucus Doremus Feb 2020 #15
See post 5 nt redqueen Feb 2020 #16
Sounds plausible. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out tonight. nt Doremus Feb 2020 #17
Let's be clear on a point brooklynite Feb 2020 #11
Heard of word of mouth? redqueen Feb 2020 #12
Yes. It gets interesting with Warren and Pete, who are close to the threshold. DanTex Feb 2020 #10
Who's giving Gabbard money to stay in the race Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #20
Gabbard's and Yang's will go to Bernie. The other will go to Biden, likely. scheming daemons Feb 2020 #21
 

PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
1. That should be interesting
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:22 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
2. Good point. Second choice votes will likely decide who wins the caucus tonight.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:22 PM
Feb 2020

I think Bernie gets most Gabbard, Yang, and possibly Steyer voters. Bennet and Patrick don't have many, if any, supporters. Klobuchar supporters, if she's nonviable, will split between Warren, Biden, and Buttigieg with most going to Biden. That's my prediction anyway. If, somehow, Warren is nonviable (which I don't think will happen) then I think most of her supporters go to Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
3. I can guarantee most Yang won't move to Bernie.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:24 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie's supporters have been treating Yang's supporters very poorly for months.

And that most likely goes for most other candidates as well. There's been an ocean of toxicity online.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
4. Yang himself said it was likely his supporters' second choice is Bernie.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:26 PM
Feb 2020

I won't argue with you about online toxicity. The internet has a way of bringing out the worst in people no matter who they support for a candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
5. Yang is Yang - he is eternally optimistic and pragmatic.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:29 PM
Feb 2020

Supporters know Iowa is about media coverage more than anything. Thus no real reason to move to Bernie.

What I expect is supporters of those who aren't in the lead will rally around a candidate in that group to get a delegate - not getting sucked into one of the top 3's groups.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
6. Who do you think they will move to, if not Bernie?
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:32 PM
Feb 2020

Will they leave without making a second choice?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
8. I'm sure a large portion will.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:49 PM
Feb 2020

Those would be the supporters who are Trump voters but like Yang.

Some would be the ones who never got involved in politics and only did for Yang. Some of those may be persuaded by other groups I'm sure.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Well, this is an interesting discussion. I just didn't think
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:19 PM
Feb 2020

about it, but of course Sanders online followers were treating Yang's badly. That's a given for any candidate seen as a danger. What I didn't realize is that Yang's followers would be specifically offended, would have assumed they were giving as good as getting, but I guess they'd be greatly outnumbered.

I'm not sure Herb's correct in dismissing the online influence. My notion is that Yang's are mostly young and tend to get most of their information/discussion on line (and not exactly from the same on-line sources as my husband and I do. )

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
19. Yeah, there's been so much ugliness.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:21 PM
Feb 2020

Yang leads by example. I think his polite support for Tulsi early on was done with an eye toward getting some of her supporters later on.

What Bernie's supporters have been doing is really nothing short of self-sabotage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. :) Nothing new about that last. But in a populist campaign,
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:51 PM
Feb 2020

turns out that kind of nasty behavior attracts antagonistic types eager to join in. So it's more of a plus than we realized. After all, those his campaign style disgusts wouldn't have been drawn anyway.

I haven't paid attention to Yang's leading by example, a new thought. First because he wasn't a serious contender and also because, as I've been a Democrat for a long time, his ideas aren't new
to me, so I just didn't pay much attention.

But also, not being a serious candidate meant he didn't need to elect Democrats around the nation at all levels to work with (which those who could really become president have to do). So he offended me by badmouthing Democrats instead of supporting them. Which is to say, in being irritated at his self-serving candidacy I missed whatever you find to admire in him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,105 posts)
7. Who do you see Yang supporters going to?
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:42 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
9. If I had to guess I'd say Gabbard, Warren, or Biden. nt
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:50 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Autumn

(45,105 posts)
13. Gabbard or Warren I could see, but I can't see them going to Biden. I may be wrong but I don't think
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:27 PM
Feb 2020

they will from the ones I know.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
14. Biden is the only other candidate who has acknowledged the threat to workers
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:39 PM
Feb 2020

posed by the fourth industrial revolution.

Also many of Yang's supporters are moderate Dems.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
15. Andrew Yang Says Supporters May Go to Sanders in Iowa Caucus
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:47 PM
Feb 2020
Andrew Yang said he won’t be surprised if his voters end up supporting Bernie Sanders in later rounds of the Iowa caucus voting -- a development that could strengthen Sanders’s already-surging campaign in the state.

Speaking at a Bloomberg News reporter round table in Des Moines, Yang said there is an “overlap” between his supporters and those of the progressive Vermont senator.

“I think that Bernie and I do have a lot of overlap in support so it wouldn’t be surprising to me if many of our supporters head in that direction,” he said.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-29/yang-says-supporters-may-go-to-sanders-in-iowa-caucus
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
17. Sounds plausible. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out tonight. nt
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:11 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
11. Let's be clear on a point
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:57 PM
Feb 2020

99% of the people at caucus sites aren't hanging out on political blogs or social media to know they're being treated poorly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
12. Heard of word of mouth?
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:22 PM
Feb 2020

Trust me. The obnoxious behavior displayed by Bernie's more aggressive supporters (or disruptors pretending to be his supporters) is not some secret that only people who hang out online are aware of.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
10. Yes. It gets interesting with Warren and Pete, who are close to the threshold.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:54 PM
Feb 2020

If polls are correct, they will be viable in some districts and not others, and how that all plays out thing could have a significant impact on the results.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
20. Who's giving Gabbard money to stay in the race
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:25 PM
Feb 2020

when Kamala ran out months ago?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
21. Gabbard's and Yang's will go to Bernie. The other will go to Biden, likely.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:33 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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