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barbtries

(28,799 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:20 AM Feb 2020

Watching Amy Klobuchar on Morning Joe

(i watch it later on youtube)

she's making a good case. I really like her and think she'd make a fine president. so far, still plan on voting for Warren, but I could change my mind.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Watching Amy Klobuchar on Morning Joe (Original Post) barbtries Feb 2020 OP
I like Amy but still going with Warren katmondoo Feb 2020 #1
I quite like her. Reasonable. Progressive. apcalc Feb 2020 #2
that is something to think about barbtries Feb 2020 #4
I thought she and Mayor Pete did well this morning. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #3
i like Amy much more than Pete. barbtries Feb 2020 #5
No pardon for Trump squirecam Feb 2020 #22
Warren is my second choice Dietz Feb 2020 #6
I like her a lot. lark Feb 2020 #7
She's a great Senator but missing that "wow factor" needed to win the presidency progressoid Feb 2020 #8
i disagree with that. barbtries Feb 2020 #9
Unfortunately she has to appeal to more than folks like us exboyfil Feb 2020 #10
I'll be happy if you're right. barbtries Feb 2020 #17
Lol, "calm demeanor" my ass phleshdef Feb 2020 #16
your ass then. nt barbtries Feb 2020 #18
Tell that to the staff members she repeatedly abused. phleshdef Feb 2020 #20
Not proved. All hearsay. However- that could be good- apcalc Feb 2020 #28
She never fully denied it and there are several people that reported it. phleshdef Feb 2020 #29
Abused? I only heard that she yelled at him for not remembering something to do with... LAS14 Feb 2020 #31
There are reports of her verbally abusing her staff and reports of her throwing objects in their... phleshdef Feb 2020 #34
They are all missing that "wow factor", IMO democrattotheend Feb 2020 #23
She is an abusive boss and has absolutely no charisma. phleshdef Feb 2020 #11
I believe her " high expectations" are not only tolerated, but apcalc Feb 2020 #30
I think she would make a great president. ooky Feb 2020 #12
My two favorites, I think, nt lostnfound Feb 2020 #13
Policy-wise, I don't understand a Warren to Klobuchar slide. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #14
Warren isn't an abusive egomaniac with zero appeal. phleshdef Feb 2020 #15
Your candidate outreach skills squirecam Feb 2020 #25
Sure, Joe has his flaws but he doesn't abuse and dehumanize his staff in fits of senseless rage. phleshdef Feb 2020 #27
I didn't say joe squirecam Feb 2020 #32
My attitude isn't going to do anything. I'm an insignificant anonymous nobody posting online... phleshdef Feb 2020 #33
You're the one who seems angry. RhodeIslandOne Feb 2020 #35
How exactly is it nonsense? You can bury your head in the sand all you want. phleshdef Feb 2020 #36
yes, and therein lies my dilemma. barbtries Feb 2020 #19
She is a strong progressive squirecam Feb 2020 #24
I like Warren too. I hear this a lot from people supporting either one. krissey Feb 2020 #21
Warren still. Amy moved up to #2 over the last month. blm Feb 2020 #26
I like Klobuchar a lot (nt) Recursion Feb 2020 #37
 

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
1. I like Amy but still going with Warren
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:22 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
2. I quite like her. Reasonable. Progressive.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:23 AM
Feb 2020

Moderate Republican friends I have like her, think she could get their votes. Warren and Sanders they do not like.
They also like Pete.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
4. that is something to think about
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:29 AM
Feb 2020

even though i want to vote my gut in the primary, it's something to ponder.
once the nominee is decided it's the democrat, just the democrat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
3. I thought she and Mayor Pete did well this morning.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:25 AM
Feb 2020

Yang also, but if they asked him about his intent to pardon MF45, I missed it.

Not changing my mind either, but if Sanders or Warren don't get the nomination, I sure hope either Mayor Pete or Klobuchar does.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
5. i like Amy much more than Pete.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:31 AM
Feb 2020

he's really lost his shine for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
22. No pardon for Trump
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:58 PM
Feb 2020

Deal breaker I would think for many Dems thinking of supporting him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dietz

(65 posts)
6. Warren is my second choice
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:35 AM
Feb 2020

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lark

(23,105 posts)
7. I like her a lot.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:40 AM
Feb 2020

Still planning on voting for Joe, but if something happens to him (sure it won't) by the late date of my primary I would definitely consider her. I really like Liz's policies, but my friends who are moderate Dems or left leaning Independents despise her almost as much as they do Bernie, so I have concerns about her potential candidacy.

Still think Joe is the best person to beat drumpf and repug fear of him seems to show this is correct.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
8. She's a great Senator but missing that "wow factor" needed to win the presidency
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:53 AM
Feb 2020

Yes, that sounds superficial. But the reality is that people need to be inspired and energized. She's Dukakis 2.0

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
9. i disagree with that.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 11:55 AM
Feb 2020

her calm demeanor is extremely attractive in my opinion. gawd we could use that as a nation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
10. Unfortunately she has to appeal to more than folks like us
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:04 PM
Feb 2020

Everyone of the Democratic candidates (expect the one(s) who is a stalking horse) would make good presidents. In this day and age you have to also have charisma. Warren has got it (even though I disagree with her on a policy position that I think will cost us Wisconsin) but Klobuchar doesn't have it. I want her to have it. I have backed her for President since the day after the 2016 election. I caucus for her tonight, and I think she can win Wisconsin (which is my litmus test).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
17. I'll be happy if you're right.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:43 PM
Feb 2020

Still supporting Warren but like I said it's subject to change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
16. Lol, "calm demeanor" my ass
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:23 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
20. Tell that to the staff members she repeatedly abused.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:28 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
28. Not proved. All hearsay. However- that could be good-
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 06:46 PM
Feb 2020

don’t think she’d be timid about knocking Rump on his ass.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
29. She never fully denied it and there are several people that reported it.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 06:51 PM
Feb 2020

They stayed anonymous because she has a history of being vindictive like that.

I'd still vote for her against Trump but I think she would likely lose.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
31. Abused? I only heard that she yelled at him for not remembering something to do with...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 06:59 PM
Feb 2020

... salad and she ate it with her knife.

I eat my peas with honey.
I've done it all my life.
They do taste kind of funny.
But it keeps them on my knife.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
34. There are reports of her verbally abusing her staff and reports of her throwing objects in their...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 07:09 PM
Feb 2020

...direction. And also reports of her making them do her dishes and laundry, which is honestly a violation of Senate ethics rules.

The salad story you are talking about is a little different. She ate the salad with her comb and made the aid go wash it. If it was just one or two little incidents, it wouldn't be a big deal. But she seems to make a habit of this kind of behavior.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
23. They are all missing that "wow factor", IMO
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 06:35 PM
Feb 2020

And that's the problem. None of them are that exciting. We need a new Obama and we don't have one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
11. She is an abusive boss and has absolutely no charisma.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:08 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
30. I believe her " high expectations" are not only tolerated, but
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 06:57 PM
Feb 2020

Would likely be celebrated were she male.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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ooky

(8,924 posts)
12. I think she would make a great president.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:09 PM
Feb 2020

At this point I am voting for Joe, but I could change my mind still.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lostnfound

(16,184 posts)
13. My two favorites, I think, nt
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:09 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
14. Policy-wise, I don't understand a Warren to Klobuchar slide.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:12 PM
Feb 2020

Warren is strongly left progressive. Klobuchar is much more a centrist.

That being said, I'd be OK voting for her if she comes out of all this as the nominee. Not my preference for a platform, but she's still a liberal and would do great as president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
15. Warren isn't an abusive egomaniac with zero appeal.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:22 PM
Feb 2020

Warren is my second choice. Klobuchar should drop out already and take anger management counseling.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
25. Your candidate outreach skills
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 06:40 PM
Feb 2020

Needs a lot of work.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
27. Sure, Joe has his flaws but he doesn't abuse and dehumanize his staff in fits of senseless rage.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 06:45 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
32. I didn't say joe
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 07:00 PM
Feb 2020

I said you. Your attitude won’t help Joe. It could turn off others. Just like the Sanders supporters.

Joe supporters should be kissing up to Amy’s voters, as they could mean the difference between a win or loss tonight. And in the states that follow.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
33. My attitude isn't going to do anything. I'm an insignificant anonymous nobody posting online...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 07:06 PM
Feb 2020

...just like everyone else here. My opinions that I share here have zero impact on the world at large.

Its up to Joe and only Joe to make his case to the voters. That isn't my responsibility.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
35. You're the one who seems angry.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 07:31 PM
Feb 2020

But go ahead, reply one more time with your nonsense tales.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
36. How exactly is it nonsense? You can bury your head in the sand all you want.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 07:33 PM
Feb 2020

That won't make the victims of her abusive behavior simply disappear.

And yes, that kind of behavior does make me angry.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
19. yes, and therein lies my dilemma.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 02:47 PM
Feb 2020

I am thinking that Klobuchar can bring the mid-west and get a lot of republicans to vote for her because she speaks their language. I'm voting for the Democrat no matter who, but suddenly instead of sticking to my plan of voting for the one I want, I'm thinking of throwing my vote to someone who I like but also think may have a better shot in the general.

i don't know. i don't know.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
21. I like Warren too. I hear this a lot from people supporting either one.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:42 PM
Feb 2020

That they could easily vote for the other.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

blm

(113,065 posts)
26. Warren still. Amy moved up to #2 over the last month.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 06:44 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
37. I like Klobuchar a lot (nt)
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 07:39 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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