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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:11 AM Feb 2020

Rick Wilson (Author of Running Against the Devil) on Joe Biden

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/11/donald-trump-rick-wilson-running-against-the-devil

** From a review of Wilson's new book: Running Against the Devil

Asked which Democrat is best suited for the fight, Wilson admits to being impressed by Warren’s willingness to work hard and how she champions the little guy. But he still goes for Joe Biden.

“I think it will be Biden because name ID is very powerful,” he says of the former senator and vice-president. “He is the one candidate who has shown the most ability to contrast with Trump in terms of a broader, bigger picture that isn’t just locked into what’s the hot flavor of Democratic messaging this year.

“He’s talking about that big American sense of unity and reconciliation and saying we’ve got to work with Republicans too.”

It’s true you don’t get much policy detail at a Biden rally, but you do see plenty of slightly hokey appeals to the better angels of America’s nature.

“There’s nothing in Joe Biden that scans as evil or dark or weird or out of touch,” Wilson says. “He can be a little goofy but that’s not bad, not the worst thing in the world right now.

“I think neither Warren nor Sanders and certainly not Pete Buttigieg have ever had a breakthrough with African American voters sufficient to eliminate Biden’s advantage. And also, Biden’s got the secret weapon.

“If Barack Obama is free to get out there and do the campaigning that only he can do in American political life, I think that would be a meaningful lift for the Democrats.”
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Rick Wilson (Author of Running Against the Devil) on Joe Biden (Original Post) flamingdem Feb 2020 OP
Just to remind you, Rick Wilson is a Republican. OliverQ Feb 2020 #1
Of course Obama supports Biden - and Rick Wilson flamingdem Feb 2020 #2
He will disappoint us at some point... VarryOn Feb 2020 #5
He hates trump. The enemy of my enemy is my friend...use them but keep an eye on them. brush Feb 2020 #31
Yeah we know Cha Feb 2020 #12
And we haven't forgotten, either. calimary Feb 2020 #14
That only proves that Biden can reach across the aisle and attract republican voters.... George II Feb 2020 #25
You have said one of the most important attributes of Joe. Butterflylady Feb 2020 #29
We have a truce with Rick awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #28
I agree with Rick Wilson quickesst Feb 2020 #3
We need to unite behind the candidate most likely to win flamingdem Feb 2020 #4
Let's hope flamingdem.... quickesst Feb 2020 #7
I disagree. Not enough enthusiasm for Biden. OliverQ Feb 2020 #6
well.... quickesst Feb 2020 #9
What about cilla4progress Feb 2020 #10
That's just somebody's meme.. There's TONS Cha Feb 2020 #13
Rick Wilson tweet on trump Cha Feb 2020 #17
And once again.... quickesst Feb 2020 #18
Rick Wilson and the Lincoln Project are ok by me right this moment. herding cats Feb 2020 #8
Well said, Cats.. about the Nevertrumpers.. Cha Feb 2020 #15
Wilson wants Trump out of the White House. oasis Feb 2020 #11
Sane people do it seems to me. Cha Feb 2020 #16
When I was volunteering for Obama in '08 they told us not to even get into policies with people Recursion Feb 2020 #19
Interesting.. this year that idea flamingdem Feb 2020 #20
It's why I'm not terribly optimistic about Yang, unfortunately Recursion Feb 2020 #22
Biden-Warren. It's what he wanted in 2015 and she was interested in. Hortensis Feb 2020 #21
I wish - but think Warren would say no flamingdem Feb 2020 #24
Rick Wilson melman Feb 2020 #23
This is 2020, a new decade. George II Feb 2020 #27
Sorry melman Feb 2020 #30
What do you think about the things Sanders' "video" guy, Matt Ofalea, has put out? That is the guy.. George II Feb 2020 #32
I'll take all the help we can get to beat trump. George II Feb 2020 #26
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
1. Just to remind you, Rick Wilson is a Republican.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:15 AM
Feb 2020

We may love his Trump bashing and condemnation of the current Republican party, but he's still got a Republican mindset.

As for your bolded line, didn't Obama say he didn't think Biden should even run?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
2. Of course Obama supports Biden - and Rick Wilson
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:17 AM
Feb 2020

has a perspective to share, of course we know he's an ex-repuke.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
5. He will disappoint us at some point...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:21 AM
Feb 2020

Sooner or later.

His shenanigans with Lemon and the other guy this week will make him a household name by November. I think he's loving the Dem love he gets these days...but he ain't one of us, in the long run.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,787 posts)
31. He hates trump. The enemy of my enemy is my friend...use them but keep an eye on them.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:39 PM
Feb 2020

Time to get Machiavellian on trump-repug asses. We can't afford 4 more years of a trump dictatorship.

PERIOD!

If Wilson wants to go after trump, get out of the way and let him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,298 posts)
12. Yeah we know
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:42 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

calimary

(81,310 posts)
14. And we haven't forgotten, either.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:44 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. That only proves that Biden can reach across the aisle and attract republican voters....
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:16 PM
Feb 2020

Isn't that what everyone says we need?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Butterflylady

(3,544 posts)
29. You have said one of the most important attributes of Joe.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:26 PM
Feb 2020

He can get the Republican vote better then any others. We won't win without them. I know we all here don't like to give any credit to the pugs, but honestly in the long run we're going to need their votes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
28. We have a truce with Rick
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:23 PM
Feb 2020

Speaking for myself. But in general as well imo.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Nothing more, nothing less.

I often remind his followers on Twitter that he's still not a Dem and never will be. At some point, he will revert to working against Dems but for now, he's quite useful. Same with McMullin.

Obama didn't tell Biden not to run because he couldn't win. It was more of a "you don't need to put yourself through that" kinda thing. Nothing to do with Biden's abilities or policies.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
3. I agree with Rick Wilson
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:18 AM
Feb 2020

Joe Biden is the best and most logical choice to run against trump. K&R

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
4. We need to unite behind the candidate most likely to win
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:20 AM
Feb 2020

And that appears to be Joe Biden. Hope that the electorate recognizes what we're up against.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
7. Let's hope flamingdem....
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:26 AM
Feb 2020

....let's hope.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
6. I disagree. Not enough enthusiasm for Biden.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:24 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
9. well....
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:30 AM
Feb 2020

.... I knew there had to be at least one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
10. What about
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:40 AM
Feb 2020

Biden/Warren?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,298 posts)
13. That's just somebody's meme.. There's TONS
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:43 AM
Feb 2020

of Enthusiasm for Joe Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,298 posts)
17. Rick Wilson tweet on trump
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 06:53 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
18. And once again....
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:22 AM
Feb 2020

.... proving that he is the stupidest man on the planet.

Two thumbs up for Rick Wilson's tweet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
8. Rick Wilson and the Lincoln Project are ok by me right this moment.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:30 AM
Feb 2020

They're ours to use in 2020. They'll move on if we win, but for now these never Trumpers really do believe they have to burn their house down to get it back... their not wrong on that.

Once that happens they'll be full on in the court of someone like Nikki Haley, but until then we should use them up. We'd be fools not to.

Oh, and on edit: I believe Warren is a strong and viable candidate. I'd vote for her in a GE in a heartbeat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,298 posts)
15. Well said, Cats.. about the Nevertrumpers..
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:45 AM
Feb 2020

Mahalo!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,389 posts)
11. Wilson wants Trump out of the White House.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:56 AM
Feb 2020
he's had it.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,298 posts)
16. Sane people do it seems to me.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 05:46 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
19. When I was volunteering for Obama in '08 they told us not to even get into policies with people
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:44 AM
Feb 2020

That's not what voter engagement for most people is about

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
20. Interesting.. this year that idea
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:17 PM
Feb 2020

would have helped several candidates!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
22. It's why I'm not terribly optimistic about Yang, unfortunately
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:24 PM
Feb 2020

He's got great policies, unfortunately he spent too much time running on them rather than on his own story.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Biden-Warren. It's what he wanted in 2015 and she was interested in.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
24. I wish - but think Warren would say no
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:32 PM
Feb 2020

Still, fingers crossed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
27. This is 2020, a new decade.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:22 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
30. Sorry
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:32 PM
Feb 2020

Some things are too vile to overcome and the Reverend Wright ad is one of them. That is on Wilson forever.


For those that might have forgotten the ad Rick Wilson is so proud of creating...


Here it is.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. What do you think about the things Sanders' "video" guy, Matt Ofalea, has put out? That is the guy..
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 10:28 AM
Feb 2020

...that was just complimented AGAIN by Jane Sanders a few days ago. The video referenced is NOT the obscenity laden disrespectful toward MLK video. I wouldn't post that on DU.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
26. I'll take all the help we can get to beat trump.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:21 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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