Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders, Warren go separate ways in closing pitches
One progressive wants to blow up the establishment. The other wants to unite the party.
By HOLLY OTTERBEIN and ALEX THOMPSON
02/02/2020 08:51 PM EST
CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa Bernie Sanders surrogates booed Hillary Clinton, lit up members of the Democratic National Committee, and proudly noted that people were freaking out that he would win.
Meanwhile, at a canvass launch Saturday, Elizabeth Warrens campaign was busy putting up placards that read Unite the Party.
In the final hours before Iowas caucuses, the two leading progressive presidential candidates are making diametrically opposed pitches to voters: Sanders campaign is leaning hard into their anti-establishment bonafides, while Warren is selling herself as a candidate who can bring together a fractured Democratic Party.
Warrens message is aimed toward more traditional and mainstream Democrats who have fretted for months about the need to bring the party together; many believe President Trump won the election partly because the party was divided. Sanders pitch is pointed at young, infrequent and disillusioned caucus-goers who are exhausted and furious with the status quo, and who think Trump rode to victory on an anti-establishment mood throughout the nation.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MH1
(17,600 posts)She wants to do it and she can do it.
Thing is, in the U.S. with current rules, we have a pretty strongly enforced two-party system. 3rd parties and independents can be successful occasionally, but not consistently.
That means we NEED a strong Democratic Party. Until the system is changed ... which isn't going to happen by blowing up the Democratic Party in a presidential race.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MontanaFarmer
(630 posts)how his supporters acted last time. Democrats are part of "the system," and they want to blow up the system. It's nonsense, as we all know (2 party system, divided government, all that) but in Bernie's world the party isn't worth saving so why unite it? I'll vote for him over trump but i dearly hope he's not our nominee. Literally anyone else in the field, please.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)The "status quo" thing: money in politics corrupts both sides, both sides are the same, everybody's corrupt except Bernie. The anti-establishment thing: Us (Bernie) versus Them (pretty much everyone and everything else). I have given up trying to understand it. It just is.
Warren: Us. Sanders: Me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)It is all about him, his ego and his desire to bring a socialist revolution.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)and he failed miserably
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,365 posts)Thanks for the thread JoeOtterbein.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MontanaFarmer
(630 posts)for this and many other reasons. She seeks change but is willing and able to work within the system we're stuck with. She's a positive force for change. I'm supporting Joe but am proud to have Warren running as a great representative of our party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I want to hear a thorough center-left versus Left debate on how we fix our problems and what our future should look like. I just don't think that Sanders makes for a good presenter of the Left arguments.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
denem
(11,045 posts)She took a lot of stick for her scoop on the anti-Warren script being used by the Sanders campaign in Iowa and elsewhere, but was proved to be right on the money. A credit to her Dad. Congrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Because of course!
Thanks for the post denem!!!!
(little smiley waving emoji guy)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,268 posts)and that is an essential trait of a good journalist.
Holly also stuck her neck out by going with that scoop, and that is the mark of a real reporter.
Kudos.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)(little smiley, wavy emoji guy)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I won't be surprised at all to see her as a talking head on TV news shows soon.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OneMoreCupOfCoffee
(314 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)cue upChuck Toady on Meet the Republicans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)*thumbsup*
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Holly is the best!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided