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brooklynite

(94,596 posts)
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:29 PM Feb 2020

Rivals warn Sanders campaign plans to game Iowa results

Politico

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa — Rival campaigns are sounding the alarm that Bernie Sanders could be planning to claim victory on Monday night — before the caucuses are concluded.

It’s a move, they say, that could have a significant effect on the outcome.

Sanders and his team have made clear their intention to tout the results of the first round of caucus voting Monday, even though the Iowa Democratic Party stresses that the only number that matters is the final delegate count.

Aides with two top-tier campaigns told POLITICO they worry the Sanders campaign or other pro-Sanders forces — which will be receiving unofficial precinct results from allies in real time — will disseminate that information through social media or publicly claim victory after the first vote, an act that could distort the eventual results in a variety of ways.

A claim of victory after the first vote could encourage supporters of weaker candidates to leave the caucuses early without realigning with another candidate. Or it could create an artificial bandwagon effect by encouraging some caucus-goers to jump to Sanders’ side under the belief that he will be the victor.
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Rivals warn Sanders campaign plans to game Iowa results (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
Worried? JoeOtterbein Feb 2020 #1
Are you asking what my motive is? brooklynite Feb 2020 #2
I was replying to the news you posted. That Bernie's rivals where worried. JoeOtterbein Feb 2020 #7
No that was all your spin. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #15
You do.. and so appreciated! Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #11
Which side of this stir has the biggest spoon? dchill Feb 2020 #3
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #4
Schumlin called it. lapucelle Feb 2020 #5
Baseless anonymous attacks on Bernie from other campaigns. DanTex Feb 2020 #6
+1000! JoeOtterbein Feb 2020 #9
How are the "attacks" baesless? TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #13
If any other campaign was to try to call the results before the votes were counted... ehrnst Feb 2020 #14
BS won't have to do anything . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #8
I support you. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #10
The AP is now reporting the story. lapucelle Feb 2020 #12
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
1. Worried?
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:31 PM
Feb 2020

Or just pre-game spin?

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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,596 posts)
2. Are you asking what my motive is?
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:35 PM
Feb 2020

Answer: I post news-worthy stories about the campaign. You may have noticed.

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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
7. I was replying to the news you posted. That Bernie's rivals where worried.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:40 PM
Feb 2020

I thought that was what you where reporting.

Anyway, do you think they are really worried about Bernie's caucus strategy? Or just trying to spin a possible loss tomorrow?

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MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
15. No that was all your spin.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:53 AM
Feb 2020

Those blinders make it hard to read what other people actually post I guess.

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Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
11. You do.. and so appreciated!
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 09:08 PM
Feb 2020
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dchill

(38,503 posts)
3. Which side of this stir has the biggest spoon?
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:35 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

 

lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
5. Schumlin called it.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:37 PM
Feb 2020


“What I’ve seen in Bernie’s politics is he and his team feel they’re holier than the rest. In the end, they will play dirty because they think that they pass a purity test that Republicans and most Democrats don’t pass,” said Shumlin. “What you’re seeing now is, in the end, even if he considers you a friend, like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie will come first. That’s the pattern we’ve seen over the years in Vermont, and that’s what we are seeing now nationally.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/16/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-feud-100129
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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
6. Baseless anonymous attacks on Bernie from other campaigns.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:39 PM
Feb 2020

All the campaigns are going to spin the results. That’s what campaigns do. But somehow it’s a sinister thing if Bernie does it.

More of the usual hypocritical anti-Bernie stuff.

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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
9. +1000!
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:41 PM
Feb 2020

You have a sharp political eye!

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TexasTowelie

(112,248 posts)
13. How are the "attacks" baesless?
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 09:29 PM
Feb 2020

In the second sentence you stated that all of the campaigns are going to spin the result. That seems like the "attacks" have a firm base--even in your own opinion.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
14. If any other campaign was to try to call the results before the votes were counted...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:48 AM
Feb 2020

The fur would fly, because that's not "spinning results," that would be called trying to influence the outcome using "spin."

Because it's Sanders' campaign, you think that it's different because REASONS.

Also known as a double standard.



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Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
8. BS won't have to do anything . . .
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 08:41 PM
Feb 2020

The Republicans will take up the slack.

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lapucelle

(18,275 posts)
12. The AP is now reporting the story.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 09:24 PM
Feb 2020
New Rules have also left the campaigns working in overdrive to set expectations. For the first time, the Iowa Democratic Party will release three sets of results: who voters align with at the start of the night; who they pick after voters supporting nonviable candidates get to make a second choice; and the number of state delegate equivalents each candidate gets.

The new rules were mandated by the Democratic National Committee as part of a package of changes sought by Sanders following his loss to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential primaries. The revisions were designed to make the caucus system more transparent and to make sure that even the lowest-performing candidates get credit for all the votes they receive. But party officials in Iowa and at the DNC have privately expressed concerns that multiple campaigns will spin the results in their favor, potentially creating chaos on caucus night.

The Associated Press will declare a winner in Iowa based on the number of state delegates each candidate wins. The AP will also report all three results


https://apnews.com/ce049651af41d729193cf574be5465af

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